Ohia "Heavy Favorites" to land top QB Transfer Sayin from Alabama
Before the hiring of Ross Bjork, the Central Ohio Board of Sports Business (my new moniker for OSU) had already been ramping up acquisition of on-field talent via transfer portal and traditional pay for play recruiting. It seems that despite their many humiliations, touted transfers like Quinshon Judkins and Will Howard were attracted to Ohio's professional atmosphere; now they are the "heavy favorite" to land 5* QB transfer Julian Sayin.
What are folks thoughts about this commercial endeavor? I have been sort of preparing myself mentally that they might be purchasing an undefeated year next year with that kind of budget. But with the addition of Bjork to their corporate structure, have the Ohians risked descending into Texas A&M territory of legendary recruitment followed by legendary attrition (by making the most on-the-nose hire of all time)?
Anyway, I'm just glad to be a fan of the best college football team of all time, team 144. They are forever.
January 19th, 2024 at 5:59 PM ^
I couldn’t care less. Even if OSU manages to win it all next year, it’ll be with mercenaries. That will never come close to what Michigan had this year.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:35 PM ^
Bro...most of our OL were portals. Every team has holes that need to be filled. Recruits flame out and attrition is real.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:43 PM ^
By most you mean 2 starters, since Jones, Barnhart, Keegan, and Zinter played a ton and were developed here.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:48 PM ^
And how many of them were lured to Michigan with straight bag?
January 19th, 2024 at 10:29 PM ^
Amen and 1000000% agree.
this year, wow.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:02 PM ^
If Sayin is their starter next year they are in deep shit. They also stand to lose Noland if they pick up Sayin.
Noland probably goes to UGA.
OSU has gotten a mediocre QB and OC, returned two DEs who aren’t elite pass rushers, returned an injury prone RB, added a RB with a toxic personality, and still have Coach Headcase.
OSU isn’t demonstrably better than they were this year. Loss of Harrison supersedes the addition of Jenkins.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:10 PM ^
No lies detected.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:19 PM ^
Nothing in what you said is incorrect. Well done!
January 19th, 2024 at 6:42 PM ^
There's already rumblings about how Noland was the leader of the class and this could end up a domino effect with guys like Jeremiah Smith transferring out as well
January 19th, 2024 at 6:47 PM ^
Rearranging deck chairs.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:48 PM ^
Imagine the bad blood with fans/boosters dumping north of $15mil into this program for their one magical season. If it goes wrong this year it REALLY GOES WRONG.
Texas A and M AD - do your thing brother!
January 19th, 2024 at 6:05 PM ^
But they still have the same coach, right?
January 19th, 2024 at 6:54 PM ^
Tennessee is still in play!
January 19th, 2024 at 6:05 PM ^
2021
2022
2023
This joy can not be erased
January 19th, 2024 at 6:06 PM ^
Can't sign a good team culture or chemistry from the portal but good for them. Loading up on superstar talent has worked out every single time it's been done /s
January 19th, 2024 at 6:30 PM ^
I think only the second half of your statement should fall under the /s. Michigan debunked the first half by adding guys such as Olu Oluwatimi, Drake Nugent, AJ Barner, Josaiah Stewart, and Josh Wallace from the portal. Yes they’re not 5* mercs, but they definitely added to both Michigan’s culture and chemistry.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:06 PM ^
How is the NCAA investigation going with OSU and Catapult?
@peterhamel has been silent on this
January 19th, 2024 at 6:40 PM ^
Still need to find out about the PI hiring. And Catapult.
Hope we don't let this go.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:55 PM ^
Also wondering when we're going to find out what happens to Jim McElwain.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:09 PM ^
what's ole #33 gonna do now? howard must be itchy already. day is a major bumblefuck.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:10 PM ^
Not to go all tinfoil hat here, but let me put this out there. Alabama had already been accused and basically admitted to tampering with Bama players. A lot of people are rightfully puzzled by OSU hiring O’Brien, but he was Sayin’s lead recruiter at Bama. Then all of the sudden Sayin enters the portal and OSU is immediately the favorite within an hour? Is it out of the question that there was some behind the scenes deal to get Sayin to come to OSU with the condition that OSU hired O’Brien?
January 19th, 2024 at 6:26 PM ^
Well, business people love deals after all...
January 19th, 2024 at 6:26 PM ^
That was no coincidence. Reasonable take.
Day's all in next season and will do whatever it takes to protect his employment.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:25 PM ^
This is the only thing he as proven since taking over the head coaching duties at OSU.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:33 PM ^
I'm not a NCAA rules expert, but I've heard on several podcasts that a common loophole that coaches are employing is contacting transfer prospects through their current players.
Like it is against the rules for coaches to directly contact another team's players that haven't entered the transfer portal yet, but... apparently if there is say a mutual contact (i.e. players that became friends during the high school recruitment process, or former HS teammates), then it is legal for the coach to be like:
- "Hey, Player X, you played high school ball with Player Y, right? Send him a text, and see if he likes playing for Arizona State or does he ever dream about playing for Michigan...."
January 19th, 2024 at 7:05 PM ^
Loophole like a low level staffer paying third parties for in-person scouting? Then the coaches should be suspended and the NCAA should immediately begin a full investigation. And the NCAA should be leaking details to the press in violation of their own rules.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:56 PM ^
It gOeS aGaInsT thE SpIRiT Of thE GamE!
January 19th, 2024 at 6:38 PM ^
This is Helow going to Alabama on steroids.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:11 PM ^
So if that happens, Air Noland has to transfer out. Like I said in the other thread, this doesn’t really change things for next year so I don’t see it helping or hurting us.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:18 PM ^
You're talking about a team (OSU) so historically blessed that, in '21, McCord stayed committed after they landed Ewers. Noland is a year behind Sayin.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:21 PM ^
Maybe I started drinking too early, but 247 has them in the same class. Is that wrong?
https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=QB
January 19th, 2024 at 6:30 PM ^
You are correct. The poster prob is thinking St. Clair or Howard starting this year with Air Noland being the true starter next year
January 19th, 2024 at 6:50 PM ^
They are in the same class. The one enrolling this year.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:55 PM ^
You're right -- I was thinking Sayin was in school for this whole year, rather than an early enrollee.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:19 PM ^
Air Noland will be gone, no? Another 5 star QB.
Hey at least we have multiple 3 stars & walkon to chose from.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:31 PM ^
I get the sentiment but Jayden Denegal and Jadyn Davis were/are 4 stars. Looks like the favorite to start next year is Orji who is/was a three star but there were 3 total qbs that played in the nationional championship JJ, Penix and…Orji. Should be interesting not going to lie would love to get one of these 5 star laser rocket arm qbs but it just doesn’t seem like it’s going to be a reality moving forward.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:24 PM ^
If this kid was transferring to Michigan we'd be going nuts. No reason to downplay it. Good pick up for them.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:58 PM ^
Well we need a starting QB. They already have a proven QB and an actual 5 star freshman, so just one more dude is nice but not changing anything. It's not like stockpiling linemen.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:32 PM ^
Fuck them honestly.
It's so stupid that they continue to get every 5 star. We just won a national title and we're most likely losing our coach and a chunk of our staff and our recruiting is eh.
The joy of winning the title is amazing and I prefer this feeling over anything else. I just want to keep the high going and it doesn't seem like it will.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:38 PM ^
Can't force kids to make the smart decision. Some kids are gonna care about being able to say they went to USC or Bama or OSU more than going to the best place for their development. There are a lot more Domani Jacksons than Will Johnsons. Oh well.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:47 PM ^
It seems to be almost every top 100 kid. I honestly doubt Johnson comes here if he wasn't legacy. It's just insane to me how little love Michigan seems to get.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:32 PM ^
When we lost we lost recruits when they lose they get 5 stars still trying to figure that one out.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:33 PM ^
Can he block Mason Graham or Kenneth Grant?
January 19th, 2024 at 6:35 PM ^
Ross and Ryan say
”if you can’t beat them fair and square then cheat”.
Blowing another million on an OC is not cheating. But offering NiL as an inducement is. And Ryan publicly said they need to do that. And now Ross is the expert on how to do it and get away with it.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:36 PM ^
Is he cool sitting a year with no idea who his QB coach will be and a dumbass of an OC? Enjoy it then kid.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:45 PM ^
Makes no difference in my opinion. I already thought Noland would be good so now they have two guys who will be good and can only keep one. Last time they were in this predicament they chose Haskins over Burrow.
Noland is probably a bit annoyed by this.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:57 PM ^
No, last time they chose McCord over McCarthy.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:45 PM ^
OSU has never had issues acquiring talent. We'll see how they use it - Bill O'Brien hasn't been a particularly good OC so we'll see how they look.
I do wonder how this will affect retention of Noland, who's also on this class and basically got recruited over. That's the thing about trying to basically buy a class - you are going to piss off some people and loyalty to your program is harder to generate.
January 19th, 2024 at 6:46 PM ^
Sayin may have put his name into the transfer portal because of the coaching shake-up at Bama, knowing that he can withdraw too. Not counting Bama out, especially with Saban still being close to the program.
January 19th, 2024 at 7:08 PM ^
Do you think Saban would have said something to the team - or players they felt might be "at risk" of entering the portal?
I thought I saw a newswire headline that Georgia offered $ 500K in NIL to a portal player from Bama.