Minority POV: anyone tiny bit concerned OSU lost?
So I switched off the OSU game when Samuel put them up 19-7, convinced the game was over at that point, started watching a movie, then promptly fell asleep. Woke up to the shockng news of the PSU win. Now, while I'm always happy for a MSU/OSU loss, in this instance I admit to a little concern/disappointment, for two feelingsball, (not rational reasons I admit) reasons:
1- An undefeated matchup of both us and OSU for the game would be a giant national story, with huge buildup and insane hype. Now, if things stay the same and we're unbeaten and they have one loss that's still a really big game, but a tiny bit less
2- Isn't a one loss OSU team that has already been upset actually a more dangerous team to play at home in the Game than an undefeated OSU team?
I can see the responses to this view already, and they are all legit, no argument. Am I alone in this?
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
This is the same thought I had. Hopefully this means they are susceptible to losing to Nebraska which makes our path to the playoff that much easier.
October 23rd, 2016 at 9:48 AM ^
It's way to early to think you can plan out the rest of the CFB season. Heck, Alabama and Clemson could lose next week. Who knows. Enjoy the ride. And it is never a bad day when OSU loses.
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October 23rd, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^
This
OSU and Alabama will remain top 5 teams by end of year even if they have 1 loss.
Pollsters love these two year in and year out.
If Bama loses one, I can see the poll going into the last week looking like this:
Michigan
Clemson
Washington
Alabama
Ohio State
Undefeated WMU, Baylor or WV will still not be ranked above Bama and OSU.
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Either way, regardless of the situations or rankings, we have to win football games. Win and we're in.
October 23rd, 2016 at 2:18 PM ^
Win the Big TEHHHHNNN championship, we're in.
If not, one or two upsets will have to occur in the conference championship games (depending on whether the committee considers the Big 12 chump to be indisputably unworthy of Larry Culpepper's tournament).
October 23rd, 2016 at 9:51 AM ^
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October 23rd, 2016 at 9:53 AM ^
The sting to the face could invoke a beast unleashed, or they could be mentally broken, just enough to cause further issues.
Have to watch thru the rest of the schedule. Ain't no way its going to be a 5 game streak ala Corntonio, though.
I do respect PSU for never going into "prevent" defense. They were still roaring up the field to pressure Barrett & their ability to run, even down to the final OSU offensive series. I also felt like OSU wasn't playing with a lot of urgency at the end. They let a lot of clock wash away that wasn't the limiting factor in the game but could have been.
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October 23rd, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^
the whole fourth quarter. And he escaped admirably, until the last two plays.
I guess that's a bad/good thing. Barrett is elusive, but he was under tremendous pressure from PSU's line.
October 23rd, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^
on the Game. It will still be hyped as the battle for the playoffs unless either team loses 2 games before then. OSU will still see itself in the NC hunt and the pressures etc. are all the same.
One of the effects of the Playoffs is that games like last night's have lost a bit of their importance. If you're a traditional powerhouse and come into the year with enough hype and a high enough ranking you can almost definitely survive a loss and still make the playoffs comfortably.
October 23rd, 2016 at 9:55 AM ^
I think this game helps us a lot more when considering game video. With some of our previous coaching regimes I wouldn’t really consider this too much but I fully expect Harbaugh and Brown to dissect the past few OSU games (and future games), and put together a brutal game plan. I really believe our coaching staff is the best in the country.
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^
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Could not agree more. Plus, this probably puts some more pressure on Michigan. Do they have any excuse not to beat OSU now? I think a loss to OSU would be much more disappointing now than it would have been had OSU been undefeated. I agree with you.
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I'm happy not to have a GameDay in Columbus. They usually fuss and fawn over the home team, not so much the opponent.
October 23rd, 2016 at 9:59 AM ^
Its The Game. Both teams will play their asses off no matter what.
October 23rd, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^
No doubt it will be always be a huge game for both teams. Its The Game. There is also nearly half a season of football left until The Game, including a big one next Saturday. Quite likely to be a lot at stake for both teams by the time they play.
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October 23rd, 2016 at 10:06 AM ^
"So it begins with hard work. It begins with an attitude that I will not be denied. I am in charge of what I want to accomplish, and I will accomplish it; an attitude that is positive; an attitude that says, you know, we can, we will, we must.
"And then of course, you've got to be able to perform your part in the fray. You've got to do your job because ultimately it's not about individual stars; it's about team. It's about playing together as hard as you can, and as well as you can, and for as long as the game goes."
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
Your first point is valid. It would be a slightly bigger story going into The Game if both Michigan and Ohio State were undefeated. It would have a nice symmetry with the 2006 season, 10 years afterward. However, for it to be to have been a #1 vs #2 matchup, Alabama would have needed to lose.
I don't see how the fact that OSU lost at Penn State makes them more dangerous. I would say it makes them less dangerous, because OSU has had some weaknesses exposed on their offensive line.
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:08 AM ^
1. Yes, that's true. But still worth it to see OSU lose. To a team that UM thrashed--and yeah, I know that the transitive property doesn't apply in CFB, but still . . . .
2. Not this year. In 1998, MSU beat then-undefeated OSU and then OSU beat UM in Columbus a couple of weeks later. Last year, MSU beat then-undefeated OSU and then OSU beat UM the next week. This year is different (I hope and I believe) because:
a) More time will have elapsed between OSU's loss to PSU and the time of The Game, so whatever mental/emotional boost that OSU might have from a single loss won't be as great;
b) Unlike last year, our DC is unlikely to have one foot in his next job;
c) Also unlike last year, UM (I hope) won't have a depleted defensive line.
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Can't wait to see the list of recruits that will be in C'bus for the GAME.
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For myself I am not worrying about them only us. If they feel pain I am happy.
We are in control now in the BigTen. Let's just keep doing what we do!
Go blue and buckssuck!
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October 23rd, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^
We're in control of our own destiny. As long as we do what we're supposed to, the rest will take care of itself. Who cares what kind of national story The Game brings. The bigger story is how Harbaugh coached his team into a NC in only his 2nd year as Michigan's HC.
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Because that pushes OSU one loss away from exiting the playoff push and helps Michigan out a lot.
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^
I understand that you may be basing your thoughts on last year, when MSU upset a heavily favored OSU game in Columbus - the complacency bubble got burst before the Wolverines could bust it. I get that.
But consider:
1. OSU will now go out and CRUSH MSU - so if you are into Schadenfreude then the Spartans are staring at a 8 loss season.
2. There have been many editions of The Game when either OSU or Michigan had one loss - even in the Bo-Woody era and it doesn't really affect the quality of the game.
3. Stop worrying about getting two teams into the playoffs - that is just some puff talk by columnists and talking heads. It won't happen. All of the playoff teams will be conference champs. Why? Because with only 4 teams, once 2 teams from one conference is allowed, it will just be more politicking by the SEC crowd. The playoff has largely taken out of the strength of that argument - when the game is settled on the field, we have seen some really great and deserving champs from all over the country. Let's not make it easy to start that crap all over again. Yes, Alabama winning were deseving winners, but don't start up about how this or that SEC team should have also been there.
4. Harbaugh has really restored the level of confidence and focus the team has not had in years. The Spartans and Buckeyes had two fortunate events. The Wolverines went through a historical bad spell allowing Mark Dantonio to build up the Spartans and OSU had Urban Meyer step right in otherwise, they would have gone through another period of a John Coooper or Earle Bruce reign. Harbaugh has put the Wolverines back on track.
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i would be more worried, IF this was the week before, and IF OSU was as good as they have been the last two years. They clearly are not, and this game, though they should have won it, exposed some serious weaknesses.
And when I see OSU weakness, I smile.
October 23rd, 2016 at 10:19 AM ^
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