META: MGoStaff's antagonist twitter behavior

If you give someone money, give without expectation. I get thats easier said than done but I can't imagine the hell that is Ace's day to day life suffering through something that isn't well understood or better documented. Twitter isn't a venue for nuance, and by design its fucking impossible to determine context. This whole thing started with a subtweet which is by its very definition small, petty and dickish.

I don't blame anyone who goes around blocking people on Twitter, the place is a hell hole. Now imagine it from the perspective of someone who is home bound and one of their main channels to the world is twitter. Now roll into that someone who has to be on there professionally in an atmosphere where everyone has an opinion. B1G twitter isn't the algonquin round table. So block first ask questions later is a defensible strategy.

The last thing that bothers me is that everyone has been complaining about how toxic everything is and no one has raised a hand and said me, I'm part of the problem. The ones who have realized this have likely logged off. So I too am part of this and if I've been a dick to you, I'm sorry, you likely didn't deserve it and it was done in the service of me scoring stupid internet points and giving myself a laugh. It wasn't fair to you or the community. We aren't those people, we aren't hateful toxic assholes, lets not let our base breed a harvey updyke

Friendly advice to those who have not learned this lesson: the gift is in the giving. If someone is grateful, that is extra special but you should not expect anything in return. If you give a gift to your family member or a friend (especially money), don't expect that it will ever be repaid or remembered. If you are going to be unhappy about how your gift is used or misused (e.g. are you enabling behavior you don't agree with) then don't give the gift. If you are giving a gift to feel more appreciated or to achieve a specific goal, then that is not a gift, it is a business transaction.

Take this as you will. I think I'm going to chalk up the majority of this thread to the general dysphoria surrounding losing and the weather (and politics). Michigan Hockey is playing well, let's talk about that.

Stepped into this thread and immediately felt like Steve Buscemi in that scene from Armageddon where he’s coming up the elevator and finds Bruce Willis choking a guy out with a huge pair of pliers. 

”Okay......what did we miss?”

For as much shit as we give RCMB, this board sure devolves to that level quite a bit. Especially with this little spat between Mgrowold and Bando/Ace/everyone else. 

What the fuck has happened to this place?

I always assumed Ant was Yoder, but agree this whole twitter war is not a good look for anyone involved..Michigan fandom is pathetic right now, top to bottom

This is all really dumb.

Enough of MGoHighSchool already.

Don't knock Ace if you haven't been there.  If you haven't had to face the shame of being a healthy-looking young man using a mobility scooter to get groceries because otherwise you wouldn't eat.  To wake up each day with a clear mind but a broken body, watching everything you know you COULD do slip away.  To need to fill 8-9 hours of otherwise useless time when you're too tired to get out of bed, but you can't sleep, and to very carefully list distractions by time, mental effort, and potential for madness.  To avoid slipping into "why can't I be back NOW" funks and lose all hope.  To spend a month in a stupor when you tried to come back too early and just regressed.

I've been there, done that.  I just thank God mine was a treatable condition that three years worth of doctors completely missed.  It sucked.  Any negativity out there paled in comparison to my own.  I wasn't on Twitter, but if I was and I had any sort of following, you bet your ass I'd be blocking anyone being negative.

To those who helped Ace out, congrats!  It worked!  He's back writing!  But when you have limited reserves, you HAVE To be careful about doing too much too quickly, otherwise you backslide.  And if you rag on him for not being all the way back (which trust me, he's painfully aware of that), he's gonna block you.  And he doesn't owe you a damn thing.

Are you from England?

What behavior your behaviour begets!

Anyone who contributes money to someone who claims to be too tired to go to work shouldn’t be surprised by anything the recipient of that money does or says. 

yeah... a little confused about what happened and why this has become such a big deal with some people.

I mean, I chipped in to Ace's fund to help him... and if he is now feeling better, that's fantastic - that was the goal wasn't it? To allow Ace to get some rest and some help without the financial burdens that would threaten any progress he made?

It was a gift, and as such, there were no expectations of reciprocity...

While I do think the excessive blocking probably exacerbated a situation that probably would have died on the vine, I am surprised why people have taken things so seriously.

Moderation of the board is definitely something that probably ought to be considered though as too many times legitimate discussions have been co-opted into personal attacks and insults.

I've never known how many people get upset (or is it TRIGGERED?) by being blocked on Twitter. That is an eye-opener to me.

I don't have Twitter, and surprisingly I don't have these problems. I ended up ditching Facebook for the same reason.  My feed was nothing but solid political bickering and ads. Waste of time. 

Wow.

Lots of emotion in this here post, no doubt a testimony to how much Mgoblog has touched us all over the years.

There is no better way for thoughts and ideas to get misconstrued then social media. Having said that, it sure sounds like this Ant dude is real douche. Fuck him, let him be a douche.

I don’t tweet because I don’t care that much, so most of this is news to me.

My 2 cents, as if anyone gives a shit...

1. Don’t take anything personal.

2. Hire a full time mod to get rid of all the trolls on the board, it’s gotten way out of hand.

I’ve met Brian and Seth in the past. They seem like good guys to me. Brian and I had a pretty good laugh actually.

So to Brian, Seth, and Ace. Hang in there fellas.

So an adult man who calls himself "Ace"  gets in a Twitter fight with another adult man who calls himself "Ant" and here we are 500+ posts later.

Okay...….

It's hilarious how comparable this is to recent Michigan football fandom.

Michigan was great before. Michigan is less great now yet the program asks more of the fans with higher ticket prices, a higher paid coaching staff, and a generally shittier slate of games, with less wins especially against OSU. Most would not care if the team was living up to the very high expectations set by past standards, even though the team is still good by the standards of most programs

Mgoblog used to be excellent (and yes I was a lurker for years before I joined). Content has greatly declined mostly because there is less of it...even though it's still overall pretty dang good when it is there. The behavior and attitude of Brian and Ace has become worse....they are more condescending, entitled, ruder, and dismissive of others in the interactions I have seen. I also doubt people would mind as much if the content was at the same level. And I doubt they would be acting as badly had Michigan made a college playoff or won the Big Ten recently!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and allowed to be an asshole if they choose. Ace can say whatever he wants on Twitter. He can also choose to thank or not thank anyone for donating to him. The caveat is that when you act in a way others perceive as assholeish (sure it's a word!) you have to deal with the consequences. If Ace had continued to thank people graciously when coming back, if he did not get in petty Twitter fights and blocking sprees, or did not continue to be condescending....people would probably not be questioning how he used his money. You often reap what you sow. His behavior encourages this kind of response.

My response is to say this is pathetic behavior for an adult, but fits with his past actions.

I hope everyone feels better now.

This thread made me sad 

So I am guessing this would stop talks and put an end to that MGO Camping Trip up North many have been wanting to do for the past several years.

This is still going on??  yeesh.

Full disclosure, I was one of the twitter handles blocked after replying back to the mgoblog twitter account with a fact.