(Kevin Schwarzel, Bobby Sagers, Daniel Capron) Rigged 2016 Game
We need to get out in front of this so the Big 10 doesn't predetermine the outcome of the game like 2016. With an unbiased crew Michigan wins that game by 14-17 points. The Big 10 distorted the market to get OSU into the playoff where they were promptly disgraced by Clemson. It also led to the narrative that Harbaugh can't beat Ohio. Well of course he couldn't when they rigged the game.
The rivalry is too important. It must be decided in 2019 by the players and not the referees.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^
The B1G really needs a team in the playoffs and OSU losing causes that spot to probably go to #2 SEC.
The officials are aware of the situation.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:52 PM ^
Depending on how The Game goes and how the CCG goes, I think OSU would still get in over SEC2 unless they just looked bad.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:11 PM ^
It would absolutely rule if we knocked them out and two SEC teams ended up going. Hell, I wouldn't even mind three. Everyone seems to hate us anyway, so let's troll them to Mars and make this a reality by knocking out the Bucks.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:51 PM ^
The pass interference on Hill vs Samuel back to back with the non-PI on Conley vs Perry is fucking disgusting.
Its the exact same thing except Perry actually had a chance to catch the ball.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:04 PM ^
The fuck is the OP suggesting? Michigan not show up if they don't get a ref crew they like?
November 24th, 2019 at 8:05 PM ^
Jesus this is sad. Bad refs happen, it’s not some fucking conspiracy the big ten has against its largest brand
November 25th, 2019 at 5:41 AM ^
Did you know that the B1G sent this crew to ref in the cfp in 2016? So, at a minimum, it wasn't reconized by the league that these were "bad refs".
November 25th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
This is what pisses me off the most, the Big Ten actually rewarded these jackasses who blatantly impacted the biggest game of the year with their bias.
November 25th, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^
Watch the damn video and please explain how all of those obvious penalties, special emphasis on the word all, aren't called on OSU unless there is intentional bias going. Or we just supposed to trust that two self proclaimed OSU fans are just happening to miss WR'S being literally tacked before the ball is there just had a bad officiating day? Sure thing, lol.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:18 PM ^
For any buckeyes fan who thinks this is sour grapes: just apply the “shoe on the other foot test.”
Imagine if a double overtime Michigan Ohio State game were decided, in Michigan’s favor, on a number of bad, or at the very least very questionable calls… Made or not made by refs that were from Michigan and were known to be Michigan fans.
Would they be over it? I’m thinking not
November 24th, 2019 at 8:21 PM ^
Your post has inspired them to strenuously contemplate that question like never before. They now feel bad about that win. Nice work.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:49 PM ^
They certainly should feel bad about it, but as OSU fans their consciences are seared and they are not capable of shame on any level, not when the refs in 2016 were in the tank for them, not when they are allowed to provide vehicles for players without consequence, not when the NCAA gives Chase Young a break that makes a mockery of the rules. OSU fans are not known for having a strong moral compass
November 24th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
If the refs favor Michigan in that game it is a blowout by 21-28 points. The level of screw job was unparalleled.
November 24th, 2019 at 9:37 PM ^
But we'd be denying to high heaven that any bad calls had occurred, that we totally deserved to win, and telling THEM to get over it.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
Bullshit.
I remember immediately following that game there was a thread here where Michigan fans debated with Michigan fans about the infamous spot. Guys who were apparently engineers with too much time on their hands, looking at every available angle, breaking out mathematical formulas, etc., to try and determine if the ball should have been spotted one inch more this way or that. Opinion was divided about 50-50. Very reasoned, logical (if heated) discussion.
The screw job on the other calls was so obvious, have you seen any OSU fans try to refute it? They can’t. No one could, it is impossible. It was too obvious. They can only laugh it off or ignore it - they can’t refute it.
If we were the beneficiaries of that brazen a fraud, where there are several questionable calls, EVERY ONE OF WHICH GOES OUR WAY, there is no way we would defend that. I would not, and I don’t know a single Michigan fan that would.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:37 PM ^
Then you really need to prepare for officiating nonsense this weekend. UM and OSU had a shot at CFP in 2016 and this version has only one. B1G has 10x the vested interest in OSU this time.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:39 PM ^
The Big 10 knows some odd and really questionable things happened during that game. They also knew there was nothing that could be done about it, because teams can't replay a game.
Therefore they just pretended there was nothing that needed to be done about it... at least to the public.
The Big 10 would've been really stained if they would've agreed that those referees seemed bias and some of them shouldn't have been out there anyway, because they were known OSU fans.
They didn't want to deal with a potential unethical refereeing scandal. It would've also possibly hurt OSU's chances to be selected for the playoff and interfered with the Big 10's profits.
Though I believe the Big 10 conference had some serious conversations behind closed doors about the refereeing in that 2016 game.
November 24th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
Well, you would think that Warde, and maybe even the Regents and/or Schissel would have a nice little bitch down with Delany after that nonsense.
But, then again, it's not like these clowns were unknown commodities and Michigan had no clue that they would be officiating..
November 25th, 2019 at 8:26 AM ^
Then why did the B1G select that crew as the best crew in the B1G and sent them to ref in the cfp that year?
November 25th, 2019 at 10:52 AM ^
The B1G Director of Officiating, on Sunday afternoon, announced publicly that he had reviewed every call made during the game and determined that there was absolutely nothing wrong, or questionable, about any of the calls that were made.
The problem, however, was the non-calls. Nothing was ever said about those...
November 25th, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
The real question is why the hell was a crew that had been barred from doing the game for 10 years allowed to do it? The conference had barred them from doing the game for a reason, that establishes that they were aware the chances for bias were high. That is thing that people should have held the conference responsible for.
November 24th, 2019 at 9:20 PM ^
How are these refs who were banned from doing the 2006 game allowed to be there 10 years later? Hardly a coincidence.
Just like the jackass from Grand Rapids who called holding on Karan Hidgon in the Northwestern game last year. Blatant anti-UM bias.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:01 PM ^
The ref from GR is a Sparty correct?
Urban knew they had Osu fan refs also - if I had to bet on it. He told his DBs to play "aggressive" imo...
Then the spot...
November 24th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^
hell yea
November 24th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^
Healthy 2016 UM was much better than healthy OSU.
OSU beat a team with an injured qb and still needed the refs to rig the game.
Hence, OSU was exposed and shit on in the subsequent playoff.
November 25th, 2019 at 6:54 PM ^
You're the worst
November 24th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
That video made me wish Jedd Fisch never left.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^
The 2016 game was absolutely egregious, but many people also forget how bad the 2017 game was also. Not to the level of 2016, but considering we had O'Korn at QB and nearly won, that game was a screw job too. Last year, I definitely admit we just got blown out. The 2016 and 2017 games were not on the level.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:30 PM ^
I'm still pissed about this game and those refs.
November 24th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
Fcuk that bullshit makes me angry.
November 24th, 2019 at 11:35 PM ^
They don’t play school at O$U.
November 25th, 2019 at 1:31 AM ^
I approve. Everyone should tweet, instachat, and snapagram this everywhere. Also Fox sports, Espen, and everywhere else.
if we don’t have fair officiating then college football is no better than WWF or the NFL.
November 25th, 2019 at 2:20 AM ^
How does your theory account for the objectively true fact that last year's game in Ohio Stadium was one of the most one-sided, poorly officiated games in the history of the series-- in Michigan's favor?
Seriously, how do people like you not realize how childish and immature you appear when you complain about phantom conspiracies involving multiple referees? There are dozens of bad spots and non-calls and ticky-tack penalties in literally every game. There is textbook-definition offensive holding on almost every play, and holding blatant enough to look like it deserves to be called on probably something like 20%. How can people seriously go game after game after game being outraged at all the calls that could have helped their team, without it ever occurring to them to apply the same standard to the other team?
Michigan is no more or less screwed by referees than any other team. The objective is to be so much better than your opponent that you can win when it's your turn to be on the short end of the stick-- like Ohio State was last year.
November 25th, 2019 at 6:07 AM ^
^^ "fan" - at least he refers to them as Ohio State.
November 25th, 2019 at 7:57 AM ^
Normally, I'd agree with you, but when a certain referee is barred from doing any Ohio State or Michigan games in 2006 and then gets that assignment a decade later AND then there are multiple calls in favor of the team he supports, well, that gets a little fishy, no?
Do I think these refs had it out for Michigan? No, I'm sure they tried to be objective. But, subconsciously, some of those judgment calls go a certain way because you support a particular team. I'm sure Harbaugh freaking out on them didn't help matters, either.
That game wasn't fixed. The crew was just bad. They gifted Ohio State the game and I maintain Michigan was the best team in the B1G in 2016 and got screwed/unlucky.
November 25th, 2019 at 8:26 AM ^
To confuse dupes like you?
November 25th, 2019 at 5:42 AM ^
Delaney will fix this game for OSU in order to guarantee a Big 10 team goes to the playoff. There’s too much money in this sport nowadays to not do whatever’s necessary to maximize your conference’s revenue.
November 25th, 2019 at 1:15 PM ^
Sad part is, without the pathetic calls in the Penn St game, Michigan would be in position to get to the playoffs.
November 25th, 2019 at 8:05 AM ^
Dang, this post woke the fetid morans!
November 25th, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^
I've analyzed the last 3 games without bias.
2016 was a flat out disgrace with 6-7 blatant calls "missed", BUT... The refs were awful in 2017 as well. There is a video on YouTube of all the butchered calls for that game as well.
Last year they actually favored us, but it didn't matter.
November 25th, 2019 at 10:12 AM ^
I'm not sure that the 2016 game was rigged or that Big 10 conspired to put OSU in the playoffs. However, I am sure that the game was total BS. The only reason that the refs didn't call him short is because it was in Ohio Stadium. You put that exact same play at the Big House and he's short. Put it in a neutral field and he's short. Bottom line - he was short.
November 25th, 2019 at 11:03 AM ^
The spot isn't really the question. I believe it was bad, but bad spots happen 10 times each game. The problem is the non-calls that allowed OSU to stop UM drives and continue OSU drives. The spot was poor, but there was so much worse in that game...
November 25th, 2019 at 10:25 AM ^
Jesus, I mean I obviously knew it was a screwjob but I really should not have watched that video cause I forgot how awful some of non calls were. That first noncall for PI on Darboh is one of the worst non calls ever. Literally gets tackled and then borderline targeted by a second player, no attempt on the ball made whatsoever. If someone can look at that and think there wasn't intentional bias going on from the officials they are an idiot. People want to make it all about the spot and effectively give the refs a pass, but that was arguably the most 50/50 call in the entire game. I don't fault them for the spot, I do fault them however when UM receivers are literally being tackled before the ball gets there, etc and it all goes uncalled.This officiating crew is a disgrace and if they ever do this game again UM should walk away the field in protest honestly.
November 25th, 2019 at 10:40 AM ^
The last three seasons the officiating has been brazenly for Ohio! The video last year shows the pic route receivers blocking and bumping the cover corner off the receiver, the clearout receiver straight blocking the under zone defender out of the play! Not a single flag but they will call pi for touching their rec!
2017 they were tackling our pass rushers, mauling our receivers and pushing off the defenders, not to mention def holding to open blitz lanes and no calls, at all!
2016, 17 and 18 was a new low to Big Ten officials and Delaney is fine with it!
November 25th, 2019 at 2:10 PM ^
You're out of your mind! OSU had 150 yards in penalties last year! 1-5-0. Half of them of the phantom variety. And several Mich penalties not called. Targeting on Furbush hitting Haskins late? Nah. Call it Urban for being on the field protesting. Watch the Shea 3Q interception where 2 guys are blatantly held in full camera view and no calls. It was like that most of the game.
Don't believe me??? Go back and watch your guy Steve on his podcast. He documented it perfectly. One of your own. And he was honest enough to admit it.
When you don't win, whine about the officiating. You guys have perfected the craft......
November 25th, 2019 at 10:43 AM ^
Dox this weeks officials
November 25th, 2019 at 11:08 AM ^
Has Michigan ever received an official explanation from the Big Ten on why these guys were allowed to do this game after not being allowed to do the game for 10 years? The people who are trying to claim it was just a bad day for the refs and no bias was happening are quite frankly ignoring the evidence in front of their face. The conference explicitly barred this crew from doing the game for 10 years, that establishes they knew the possibility of bias was there. So all the people trying to excuse the officials and conference on the basis of they just had a bad day can fuck off honestly.
November 25th, 2019 at 1:42 PM ^
I normally do not condone violence, however if any of those corrupt officials are assigned to this upcoming game, and they purposedly blow calls again in favor of OSU, then I would turn and walk away if I saw them getting a deserved ass kicking on an AA street that evening.
November 25th, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^
That's right. The game should be decided by the players. NOT the coaches. Buckeye Nation is forever grateful for the 2Q call where Speight threw the TD pass to Malik Hooker. Turned the whole game around.
Then Mich going into a shell after going up 17-7 mid 3Q. Your offense got about 30-40 yards for the remainder of regulation. You let OSU back in the game.
Instead, Mich blames a 50/50 ref call for losing. I'd start with your head coach and go from there. He should be bitterly disappointed in himself.
And how could I not bring up the illegal motion penalty NOT called on Mich on the 4&goal from the one that put you up 10-7 before half. Instead of 4th and 6 and a FG. Mich gets 7. No one ever brings that up. 4 point play. Go back and watch it on youtube. The officials you hated so much gave you 4 points. Huge.
November 25th, 2019 at 2:17 PM ^
Or you know you could actually read the damn thread for the responses where most of us say the spot wasn't actually the problem with the officiating in the game. Please watch that video in the OP and tell me that those were not some of the most blatant PI's you have ever seen. The first one on Darboh is literally comical in how obvious it is. Also please give me a valid reason why a crew with two self-proclaimed OSU fans that had been barred from doing the game for 10 years should have been allowed to do that game? Can you find another game in the recent history of the game where one of the teams had no live ball penalties the entire game? Michigan's possession in double OT was ended on blatant as you can get PI that is in that video if you want to talk about calls that a huge impact.