(Kevin Schwarzel, Bobby Sagers, Daniel Capron) Rigged 2016 Game
We need to get out in front of this so the Big 10 doesn't predetermine the outcome of the game like 2016. With an unbiased crew Michigan wins that game by 14-17 points. The Big 10 distorted the market to get OSU into the playoff where they were promptly disgraced by Clemson. It also led to the narrative that Harbaugh can't beat Ohio. Well of course he couldn't when they rigged the game.
The rivalry is too important. It must be decided in 2019 by the players and not the referees.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:01 PM ^
People that refuse to acknowledge that this game was ref screw job are the same people that fail to acknowledge that the LA Lakers - Sacramento Kings series in 2002 was rigged.
It later came out that referee Tim Donaghy indeed was on the take.
Sometimes its not just tinfoil hat material, but a blatant screw job.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:10 PM ^
Tim Donaghy is a filthy piece of shit
November 24th, 2019 at 7:11 PM ^
That was the worst rob-job of all time. Remember when mike bibby got elbowed in the face and got called for a foul? He was bleeding on the floor.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:12 PM ^
My dad still can’t talk about that series.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:06 PM ^
Sacramento was such a fun team to watch too - CWeb, Bibby, Vlade. But they were a small market team so they were screwed. Didn't the Lakers shoot 27 foul shots in the 4th quarter of Game 6 and Sacramento shot none? I believe that was fixed
November 24th, 2019 at 7:38 PM ^
How bout the east finals 2006? Pistons vs heat(wade). That was rigged beyond anything I’ve ever seen with the foul calls wade got to get the heat to the finals for tv ratings
November 24th, 2019 at 7:03 PM ^
Seriously. I'm tired of the refs consistently fucking us over in big games.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:05 PM ^
The block was clean!
November 24th, 2019 at 7:37 PM ^
Seriously. Trey Burke was such a badass in that run.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
Hard for me to choose between his shot against Kansas and Jordan Poole's against Houston. Epic.
November 25th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^
JT was short.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:05 PM ^
I like this thread if only because it's drawing out the OSU trolls posting in disguise on here. They can't help themselves.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:15 PM ^
The fact that people are downvoting your post just shows how many there are. Lots of closet Ohio fans here.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:16 PM ^
you'll know its true if/when 'tombradybunch', ohio troll, chimes in.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:07 PM ^
I don't think that there is necessarily a plot against Michigan involving the refs, but for whatever reason, Michigan seems to always be on the wrong end of some of the worst calls and non-calls every week. No one seems to get more inexplicable calls than Michigan. Don't know what it is exactly, but its bizarre. It's probably not a conspiracy but I think its more like a great pitcher who, for whatever reason, never gets any run support from his teammates.
But, with all that being said, B1G officiating is horrendous and that 2016 game was criminally incompetent. Those guys should never do a college game again.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^
It happens all the time when the conference's team with the best shot of a playoff birth is in a dog fight towards the end of the season.
Did you watch the Texas A&M / Georgia or TCU / Oklahoma games yesterday?
November 25th, 2019 at 10:31 AM ^
I'll stop short of calling a conspiracy, but I have no doubt that the 2016 OSU ref crew was composed of a bunch of guys that dislike Michigan in general and Harbaugh in particular. I've never seen a single game called so out of whack. Bad calls happen, sure, and sometimes you get more bad calls than the other guys. But somewhere in there, you get a makeup call. Might be late coming, or not enough, but you usually get something. Not in that game. That game was a complete screw job.
I don't think they took money, nor do I think Delaney put them up to it. But for whatever reason, a very anti-Michigan crew was hellbent on screwing Harbaugh in that game.
November 25th, 2019 at 1:13 PM ^
Half the crew were documented life-long Buck nuts. Either team could have gone to the playoffs, so don't think that was the problem.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:09 PM ^
Did they pay Wilton Speight to throw those two INTs? And pay our guys to miss all those tackles in OT?
GTF over it, dude. Concentrate on the future.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:32 PM ^
I fucking hate this take. Yes, Michigan made mistakes. Ohio State scored 0 offensive points in the first half and beefed it on a fake punt from their own 27 yard line. The refs ignored the blatant holding going on during that play, and they STILL didn't get it. Don't tell me they deserved to win. That team was a joke, and it showed in the playoffs.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^
Such a stupid take. So in order to get a fairly called game, you need to play perfect football?
Did Sacramento hit every free throw in 2002 against the Lakers? No? I guess they deserved Donaghy screwing them over.
November 24th, 2019 at 9:40 PM ^
No, we screwed ourselves. We only needed to not screw up on 2 or 3 plays. and we win easily, officiating notwithstanding.
And why the fuck would I even know what you're talking about? The fact that you're apparently still frothing at the mouth over something that happened 16 years ago in the NBA tells me you need help.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
Frothing at the mouth? Are you illiterate pooper cooler?
I brought up an example of a proven case of a ref rigging a game, as to shut down the “tin foil hat” and “just play better” rhetoric.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:36 PM ^
DeepStateColumbus, you are such an obvious troll. Just leave.
November 24th, 2019 at 9:52 PM ^
What about all the good plays. We get robbed even when we make plays. There is no perfect play. GTFO
November 24th, 2019 at 7:10 PM ^
That game was rigged. It changed my perception of officiating. I have a source who is a ref who said that the B1G office nudged the officials to favor OSU.
Our crowd needs to intimidate the refs, like the ND game this year. Let them hear about the bad calls. I’m expecting a screw job this year so the B1G can get a CFP slot,
November 24th, 2019 at 7:19 PM ^
This is a strong reason to expand the playoffs. Four playoff spots for five major conferences puts the assholes in charge in a position to help certain teams to avoid being the odd man out.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
This is honestly what my opinion was of the game as well: Nudge it that way. You couple that with general home-cooking and you get the 2016 game. And it makes sense from a Big Ten perspective because Ohio State was the best bet to get into the playoff right then and there with just one loss.
Conversely, I thought Michigan actually benefited a bit from the officiating last year, but played so poorly on defense that it didn't even matter.
What's funny is that the officials don't even need to screw over Michigan to get a Big Ten team into the playoff this year. Even if Ohio State loses they will beat Minnesota/Wisconsin and be in the playoff anyway.
November 25th, 2019 at 9:54 AM ^
Both teams had one loss at that point. Michigan would have made it into the playoffs had they won that game and the rematch against Wisconsin.
November 25th, 2019 at 10:39 AM ^
I don't buy the 'nudge the game' argument. Oh, I completely agree that the refs perpetrated the worst screw job in CFB history (name one that's worse). I just disagree about Delaney causing it. That conspiracy would have to include a lot of people - and entire officiating crew, several people within the league officials office, some of Delaney's minions, some of the guys in the game operations office in Chicago... Too many people to keep a secret.
That said, for some reason a bunch of guys with an anti-Michigan/Harbaugh bias was allowed to officiate together. And should not have been.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:09 PM ^
I was gonna say Michigan Stadium better get those towels ready...
November 24th, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^
Well that just boils my blood. That source should have blown up this story and uncovered the BIG for what they are. Crooked, biased, scam artists.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:14 PM ^
Look, I already know I'm going to be mad about losing this weekend. I don't need to also be mad about 2016 (again)
November 24th, 2019 at 7:16 PM ^
It was atrocious officiating, no question. And yes, we likely would have won without such a farce. But why would the Big 10 have any interest in systematically favoring O$U in that game? Had UM won they would have likely been headed to the playoff, so no real gain for the conference.
My impression, especially with that devastating late and incredibly weak PI call on Delano Hill on 3rd and forever, was that the refs fear the O$U crowd, and so unconsciously respond to the crowd's emotion, which had an influence on their calls. This probably is an unconscious bias that the refs experience in favor of all home teams, but I think it was even more profound that day.
We weren't winning the natty with Speight at QB, so it certainly didn't cost us the whole cigar. But it certainly cost us the conference.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:43 PM ^
They weren’t afraid of shit. They were buckeye fans.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:20 PM ^
I'm not refuting that the refs might have been biased. I'm refuting the idea that they 're receiving instruction to F Michigan from the Big 10 central office.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^
Because Ohio State at 11-1 with wins over Oklahoma, Michigan and Wisconsin gets the playoff spot, whereas if Michigan gets to the Big Ten title game and loses, suddenly the Big Ten is out.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:46 PM ^
If the B1G was so willing to rig the U-M/OSU game ..... why wouldn't they also rig the Title Game for Michigan 1 week later then?
I'll probably get some negative votes that question - but it seems to me like a legit one for those who truly believe in this conspiracy.
November 24th, 2019 at 8:55 PM ^
Listen--
This place makes a group of Trumpers look like open minded readers who disseminate information and come to a well thought out conclusion based on evidence.
When Michigan loses, IT IS BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING BUT MICHIGAN!!!!
Expecially since Harbaugh got here.
We have won 120 national championships in a row, 'cepp for the referees
November 24th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
Leave Ohio troll
November 24th, 2019 at 10:19 PM ^
Did you even watch the video? We were robbed here. Plain and simple.
November 24th, 2019 at 9:54 PM ^
Simple. Delaney hated Michigan.
November 25th, 2019 at 8:09 AM ^
I would bet Michigan would have gotten a more favorable whistle than Wisconsin a week later but probably not as obvious.
I don't even think I would call it "rigged". Just something beyond your typical home cooking.
Penn State - Michigan this year is what I would consider your typical home field advantage in officiating. It's a few iffy calls that go the home team's way.
Ohio State - Michigan in 2016 was just blatant. It was a completely different standard in what a penalty was for one team than the other.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:36 PM ^
In England's Premiere League, they actively make sure the refs have no obvious connection to the teams playing. In 2016, Michigan got almost an entire crew with reasonable bias against them and for Ohio State in the Shoe. The unwritten rules of "hot takes" and decorum say that we should get over it. I wish the NCAA were run like England at the very least in regard to bias. That game was a fucking disgrace, and those Ohio mouth breathing dimwits think it's simply about "the spot." That was the least egregious thing about the game. Fuck Delaney and fuck what continues to be a clown show of officiating. I fully expect them to be in the bag for Ohio on Saturday.
November 24th, 2019 at 10:55 PM ^
I think it was an isolated case of known Buckeye fans officiating a game they had no business officiating. Might as well just throw zebra uniforms on a few of the illiterate truck drivers in the stands.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:25 PM ^
Refs did screw us over because Delaney lobbied to protect OSU's seat in the playoffs.
Hope they don't get away with it again.
Unfortunately, I don't think they'll need to. I fear Patterson will not be able to be mobile, will get jittery, start forcing it, throw some INTs or hold onto the ball too long trying to make something happen but unable to safely leave pocket to buy necessary time then hit and fumble. We lose the turnover battle and the carnage continues.
We looked so good as of late because Shea hasn't really been under pressure from opposing DL in past few games. But Ohio is bringing a real D-line, and I think this will expose Shea's weaknesses.
If I'm wrong, then the refs will screw us over.
I'm a glass half empty kind of guy...
November 24th, 2019 at 7:28 PM ^
This makes my blood boil.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:33 PM ^
I was 67 years old when the game was played but I looked around 55 years old. The day after that loss I felt and looked like I was 70. I’ll never get over getting screwed and that doesn’t happen to me that much anymore.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^
Hang in there Phil. You've got plenty of great Michigan moments coming.
November 24th, 2019 at 7:41 PM ^
The North remembers.