James Franklin on the game
An interesting take, I think:
Q: You mentioned calling a game to get the quarterback into rhythm. What was Michigan's defense doing to make it kind of difficult to get Drew (Allar) into rhythm?
A: The same thing they've done against everybody all year long. That's one of the best defenses in college football. We've got one of the best defenses in college football. They make it challenging up front, their front seven is able to get pressure and to get sacks but not a whole lot against us today. But about their coverage, we made a couple of throws that if the ball's not delivered right, one ended up being a pass interference on them and one we were fortunate that it wasn't an interception. Your ball location is critical in these types of games. We had a couple of shots called but we were waiting for a specific look at a specific defense and weren't able to do that, so we weren't able to loosen them up from a coverage standpoint to help with the more consistent higher percentage throws.
Here's the whole interview:
November 11th, 2023 at 10:28 PM ^
The people debating going for 2 there make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Went back and forth for an hour with a guy about it earlier.
You just made it a 9pt game with something like 2 minutes left. You have two timeouts and about 2 minutes down by 9 points. Fans were leaving before the overturned INT and now filing back in. Those that didn't leave are back in it. Your team as a whole is back in it. The defense is on the sideline amped up. "Awesome, we're about to make this a one score game with time to get the ball back against a team that literally hasn't thrown the ball in the second half". It's almost a fucking gimme.
Then Franklin decides to go for two then and there, effectively adding another opportunity to lose. The risk:reward ratio is so uneven there. Worse, his team has struggled with two point conversions and he runs one of the dumbest plays I've ever seen.
Fuck analytics. They help at times but the sport is still one of emotion and momentum. Call it desire or whatever else you want. Humans play it, not robots.
In that moment you absolutely kick the XP, stay alive and play on. You don't add another loss-possibility when it's not necessary. You kick it, make it a 7 point game and don't even onside. You kickoff normally for the best field position possible on your *hopeful* 3 and out. You now have about a minute to go about 60 yards. Very doable in CFB.
By going for two there you end the game of you don't convert. The argument that you need to know what else you need is moot when there are only 2 minutes left. What, are you afraid UM scores again and you need 2 more touchdowns?! No, you make it a one score game. You don't even risk keeping it a two score game.
They go, the crowd rightfully freaks out, they fail, people rightfully boo and walk right back out of the stadium even more pissed. The defense almost fell to their knees in unison because it was dumb as fuck in that scenario.
You kick the XP.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
Id leave two point tries for when it’s absolutely needed. No need to deflate the team with that much time left. Save it for the end and give your team something to keep fighting for.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:38 PM ^
I agree. While I don't think not getting it then deflates the onside kick team, and recovering it would rekindle a spark, I think missing it early will result in an overall feeling of failure or impossibility.
I also think they are more likely to convert it the 2nd time, and Michigan less likely to stop it, due to PSU feeling a comeback is destiny and UM feeling shame to allow the possibility, respectively.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:03 PM ^
This is the take of about 15 Penn State fans sitting around me at the game today.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^
I'll bet you were one of the biggest complainers to the league about Michigan.
Eat your "L" loser.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
I don't like Franklin, but I don't get the impression he was one of the whiners. MSU and OSU are clearly leading the pack with a few others turtling along.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:24 PM ^
The rest of us are under that impression.
No, he hasn't said anything publicly. Neither has Day. Neither has Schiano.
So what makes us assume that? He has something to gain. And it's Franklin.
I'll tell you what he didn't do (none of them did): Say it's being overblown.
November 12th, 2023 at 1:04 AM ^
Hey. The Terps ain't snitches. Not too good at football, but they're not snitches.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^
Yeah, Franklin was obviously out coached in a game where the opposing team's coach he was playing against was in a hotel room. Cue "The song remains the same".
November 11th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^
Meanwhile; Petitti is "Buying a stairway to heaven".
November 11th, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
We need to leave this conference and go Over The Hills And Far Away
November 11th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
Well, hopefully we’ll be Going to California for New Year’s.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:34 PM ^
Well, we have to win out or else we won't get A Whole Lotta Love from the CFP committee.
November 12th, 2023 at 12:02 AM ^
I couldn't work Carouselambra into a football sentence. Made me sick again, but it's nobody's fault but mine. That's the way it goes sometimes.
But, time for me to ramble on. I've had too much to drink after that win...it was quite a celebration day.
November 12th, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^
The board is fun after Penn State has been trampled under foot.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:03 PM ^
I don't know how he can have the nerve to talk about stuff like that when he blamed everything on signs (we know you did Frames).
These people disgust me.
I will never forgive them.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:03 PM ^
"not a whole lot of [sacks] against us today..."
Zero holding penalties called will do that.
"One ended up being a pass interference on them..."
Complete nonsense call.
So the only thing Franklin can point to going well for them is the officiating.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
Not to mention the refs picking up the flag when they ran into the punter, claiming he was "blocked into him."
November 11th, 2023 at 6:10 PM ^
Mason Graham was held on Allar's TD run. Held and thrown to the ground. It was Columbus 2016 bad.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:45 PM ^
It was bad, but I’ve never seen a game that was Columbus 2016 bad, before or since. The Spot was maybe the 10th-most questionable call (or no-call) in that game.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:07 PM ^
In other words, you got Minter’d.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
Speaking of, I didn't see a handshake between Franklin and Moore.
Did Frames run off the field like a bitch?
November 11th, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^
There was one, they hugged.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^
It was quick but not like last week..
November 11th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
My dad and I said to do to all BIG coaches what Michael told Fredo: I don’t want to talk to you, to hear from you, or shake hands from you until our mother dies (Big Ten). You are nothing to me now.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
November 11th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
No. They shook hands and had a brief one arm hug. It was kinda gross.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
They shook hands and did a bro hug. s much as he’s a doofus at least he isn’t a jerk.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
No, they shook hands and gave a brief bro hug.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:24 PM ^
Handshake and bro hug occurred
November 11th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
I distinctly remember Moore giving Franklin a wet-willy in lieu of a handshake.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
I saw it. It was on tv. Quick bro hug and moved on.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
They shook hands, uneventful
November 11th, 2023 at 6:10 PM ^
I found it interesting he mentioned the PI in ball placement because that was potentially a pick six if it was on target and I think he was alluding to that.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
I thought for sure the refs would F us in this game on many occasions. Turns out that it really was only two plays -- the no-call on the running into the kicker which would've been a first down and the no-call on the blatant hold of Mason Graham on Allar's rushing TD. This may have been the most surprising thing that happened in the game.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
Also the PI against Will Johnson was nonsense.
I'm sure that we got some calls, too. It didn't feel like the refs were out to get us.
If you're into the conspiracies that the Big Ten gives directives to refs to swing things a certain way, as I've said before, it's better for the B1G for us to win this game. The one versus OSU is the one to worry about.
Now that said, just because it's better for the conference for us to have won today doesn't really matter. It obviously doesn't do things in its own best interest.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:17 PM ^
Compare the PI call on Johnson to the non-PI calls against OSU in 2016.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
What I'm hearing repeatedly among PSU sites, "James Franklin just lost to a team without a head coach." Scene was ugly at the end with fans shouting,"Fire Franklin!"
November 11th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
I realize that this is the Internet and an Internet message board ... But please. Enough of this paranoid nonsense.
Why attack the integrity of the officials? Sure, they make mistakes on occasion. They're human. Just like the players and coaches.
Did the coaches from each school call a perfect game? Did the players not make any errors?
This was a great win between 2 really good football teams. That's it and that's enough.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:29 PM ^
I believe Durham Blue was suggesting the refs did a good job overall...?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:14 PM ^
That's exactly what I was saying. The refs did a good job. But yes, I was paranoid before the game that we might get another M-OSU 2016.
November 12th, 2023 at 3:17 AM ^
Probably because they work for a conference with no integrity and who has agendas.
Now, I think that normally officials have no biases, they're either good or bad and your lenses can effect that. But OSU in 2016 changed that for me, I felt they were clearly trying to help OSU win. I also feel that in basketball they can be bias, mainly because they allow Izzo and Fran and to go absolutely nuts constantly, but they tech up everyone else.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
I think OP misspelled the coach's name? Who is this "James Franklin"? Everyone knows Frames Janklin coaches at PSU.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
For the most part, PSU had a well schemed plan and were well coached (beyond my usual expectations for that team). The defense was lights out, and offense could move the ball in the ground through draws and their backs. They couldn’t throw and it cost them once they got down or stupidly abandoned the run (Frames showed himself too often).
Officials were alright: the PI was called due to maize glove on a white jersey, and the lack of holds was alarming considering the amount of runs from both sides, but overall a decent officiated day.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
I'm surprised he did not say it is tough to beat them when they know your signs LOL
November 11th, 2023 at 6:49 PM ^
I for 1 an thankful Allar chose Penn State & NOT Michigan.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:54 PM ^
He is not great but he is like the 3rd best QB in the conference this year and that is with a coaching staff not known for its development of QB talent.
November 12th, 2023 at 3:23 AM ^
4th by default. JJ, McCord and Taulia are all better than him.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:42 PM ^
If PSU could merge with USC, that’d be a hella team
November 11th, 2023 at 11:23 PM ^
Debate the second one all you want.
Regarding the first: If points are going to be hard to come by, take the points.