Iowa Snowflakes: The Offense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on October 2nd, 2022 at 4:00 AM

This will be the thread for hot takes regarding the offense and offensive playcalling. 

kehnonymous

October 1st, 2022 at 3:34 PM ^

The most important stat of the day, other than the final score: zero turnovers.

There were a couple of plays we shoulda done differently, but at the end of the day we got 20 meaningful points at Kinnick (as a top 5 team, no less) and didn’t turn the ball over.  I would take that seven days a week and twice on Saturdays

turtleboy

October 1st, 2022 at 3:36 PM ^

I was glad JJ played a game with no turnovers, despite the backwards pass. I pretty much wrote off a pick vs Iowa, because they're so good at it, and he's never started vs them. 

Gree4

October 1st, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^

Michigan dominated on a limited playbook. Complain all you want but why open up the playbook when you can beat a team on low risk run and short passing? Guarantee they open it up when it matters

jhayes1189

October 1st, 2022 at 4:46 PM ^

Georgia’s offense getting matchups against LBs did us in, having 3 turnovers against them didn’t help either. But overall, they overwhelmed us with talent. We hope if we are in that position this year, a steadily improved JJ makes up a lot the difference so we can keep scoring with them. 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

October 1st, 2022 at 3:47 PM ^

Excellent execution and play-calling for 2.5 quarters.

Offense is so close to dangerous. If JJ just hits Roman when he was open by 5+ yards or if JH pushes for more deep balls off play-action, the safeties would’ve backed out even more from the run game. Looks like the coaches are honing the run game for the really big games.

Harbaugh still turtles when the offense could put a dagger in the other team, but nice to win at Kinnick by any score.

AlbanyBlue

October 1st, 2022 at 5:37 PM ^

Well said....today felt a bit like Washington or Rutgers last year, in the sense that Michigan was going to use it to sharpen up the running game. Now, though, we have JJ, who executes the short passing game at a very high level.

Also, the mid level game is there -- JJ hit the "hole shot" pass discussed in the preview -- but has been kept in the garage.

Need to dial in the deep shots though.....it's starting to be concerning.

BlueMetal

October 1st, 2022 at 3:47 PM ^

Some of you should take about 24 hours after the game to comment after games. Michigan covered the spread in a game that never once felt close. They moved the ball at will when it mattered. Were they perfect? No. Were they good enough to win comfortably? Yes. The offense will grow as the play callers and JJ settle in. JJs first road game in a hostile environment against a top defense and yeah.. we turtled a bit. I didn't like some play calls either but up 20 late in the 3rd quarter and there is only one way Iowa wins that game. The job of the coaching staff is to advance and improve, not to you make you guys feel warm and fuzzy about the offense. 

AlbanyBlue

October 1st, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^

Through almost three full quarters, the offense was fine for Iowa on the road. You knew Iowa wasn't going to score a bunch, as even when receivers were open -- two for TDs -- Petras couldn't connect. After approximately the backward pass event, it was a turtle job that I've seen a million times. Which, I mean, it's fine. We took away Iowa's biggest weapon -- the turnover-turned-defensive-TD.

So fine, we went into Kinnick and took care of business. We did see JJ run on a zone read, and he executed at least one, and probably more than one, RPO(s) correctly. That tells me that those plays are still in the rotation and will be utilized more fully when we need them. Then, once we got ahead by two scores, a lot of things were shelved for the day. That's not going to beat most teams, but it'll beat Iowa, and for the first road game for a young QB, I'm okay with it.

My only real concern -- and I don't see any problem with people expressing concerns after a win -- is the offense bogging down and settling for the two FGs in the first half. Despite it being Iowa, that's where we needed to stay aggressive and punch at least one in. Why? Because we're going to need to against teams like PSU and OSU on our schedule. I would have liked to have seen our O perform better in those situations.

EDITED TO ADD: JJ also completed the mid-level "hole shot" pass discussed in the preview. He was 1/1 on that, and I'm sure if we needed more firepower, it was there more times. Try to relax, y'all, we did what we had to at Kinnick.

Owosso_wolverine

October 1st, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^

Only 5 incomplete passes the whole game . We won yes , but we need to let the passing game thrive when it starts getting going . I wish we would throw to Anthony in the red zone . He had great success last year .

mitchewr

October 1st, 2022 at 4:52 PM ^

The run game doesn't seem to have missed a beat from last year and quite possibly has improved. Corum & Edwards seem to be more shifty and have better vision than Haskins did. Plus Corum's ability to catch the ball out of the backfield is a huge plus if for no other reason than providing one more threat to opposing defenses.

AlbanyBlue

October 1st, 2022 at 5:44 PM ^

No reason for you to get negged there. +1 to bring you back to zero.

The only thing I would change is that Edwards is the real threat out of the backfield. Hell, he's a threat in the slot and split out wide too. There's so much we can do with Donovan, and I hope we see it all.

That's not to say that Corum *isn't* a pass-catching threat, he is......but Edwards is electric with the ball in space.

mitchewr

October 1st, 2022 at 4:54 PM ^

I'm wondering the same thing. I don't know if it's the WRs themselves or the scheme but we just can't seem to get guys open down field. JJ either has to thread the needle on a bomb throw or take the short completions underneath. Obviously if you can get 5 yards every time then that'll work, but at some point you have to have the ability to get guys open in space. I'm seeing other teams do it week after week, so I'm wondering what our hangup is.

AlbanyBlue

October 1st, 2022 at 5:52 PM ^

Yep, the passing scheme against Maryland was a concern. It wasn't brought out today, except for the one "hole shot" (mentioned in the preview) and the deep shot to Wilson that was again put long. Last year in conference play, we were pretty allergic to the middle of the field, at least deeper than 10 yards. I hope, with JJ's talent, that we utilize those areas on the field more. 

If you watch the best passing attacks, they destroy teams by throwing in the 15-25 yard range, and not just out routes either. JJ can do this, and we have the receivers for it.

One of the pregame shows noted that with JJ at QB, the Michigan offense can be as creative as the staff can make it.  I hope we see that creativity and aggressiveness going forward. Again, it wasn't needed here, and this game plan was fine for the situation.

Durham Blue

October 1st, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^

The offense and the play calls took what Iowa gave them until such point that the game was out of reach.  Michigan was smart and efficient.  Sure, I would've not liked to have seen three straight three and outs with the chance to 100% close the game out, but it was a pretty masterful game otherwise.  JJ missed on his only real deep shot but it looks like he's beginning to dial that in.

A2Townie

October 1st, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^

Good game overall offensively.  Didn't agree with some of the play calling late. Would like to see more targets to #86. Hes big, fast  enough and good hands. Go blue!

Jaxpo

October 1st, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^

I hope that when JJ is needed to win a big game that they have given him enough experience to do more than manage the game. 

The Oracle 2

October 1st, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^

It wasn’t pretty, but any win at Iowa is a good win. The very conservative play calling was annoying, but they got to the right result. I just hope they open it up next week against Indiana, because with this defense, being conservative isn’t going to work against the best teams.

swalburn

October 1st, 2022 at 4:22 PM ^

Good game plan - We ran the ball and we didn't turn the ball over.  That is how you end a streak of losses in a hostile environment to a good defense.   Eventually, we will need to do more on offense but you have to ease the young QB in against better competition.  I thought JJ was more decisive today which is a good sign going forward.  The offense really has a chance to be special by the end of the year.

Ashgeauxbleaux

October 1st, 2022 at 4:40 PM ^

Last drive of the 3rd quarter swing to DE and then another swing which was JJ only miscue was Horrible play calling.Blake was chewing them up and we we let them back in the game.

waittilnextyear

October 1st, 2022 at 5:09 PM ^

I thought the offense had a good, complete game.  Scoring 27 points was on the medium-high side of expectations @ Iowa.  Obviously the game plan was conservative by design in order to slay the chaos of Kinnick.

JJ had a bounce back game.  I thought he looked really good.  Took what was available and hardly ever put the offense in jeopardy.  He proved he can be Cade McNamara, Game Manager (TM) when he needs to do that.  He also proved that he brings a little bit extra on the TD throw to Donovan Edwards where JJ escaped to the edge.  Yeah, he had that one "fumble," the slight overthrow to Roman Wilson, a delay of game, and Zinter stepped on him to smother one drive in the cradle.  But, it seemed like he was very solid throughout.  Very encouraging in that environment of ill-tempered booing corn people, and after the game vs Maryland last week where he was just ok.

The O Line owned the line of scrimmage.  They were putting hotels on it like Park Place and Boardwalk.  I think I saw the line paying property taxes on the LOS before the game was over.  It was a blowout there, and on most plays Iowa simply had no chance.  Michigan could get 4-5 yards on 1st down every day and twice on Saturdays.  The only times Iowa got the upper hand were that ill-fated speed option into the boundary and that give to Corum into an 8-man (?) front where JJ probably could have walked into the endzone if he had booted around the edge.  It was also nice to see Keegan back in there (with a neck roll no less!).

Corum is such a stud, and he is doing just fine in the bell cow role.  Doing well in short yardage situations, too.

Hensons Mobile…

October 1st, 2022 at 10:50 PM ^

ITT: People who believe it was a blowout because it should have been a blowout and don't want to acknowledge that Iowa was a whisker away from making things very, very uncomfortable late in the game.

Hensons Mobile…

October 2nd, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^

We had a 78% win probability before kickoff. Not sure what win probability is really telling me, the perceived talent gap?

Once Iowa was inside the 15 with 7:30, the path to a loss was very clear since our offense had disappeared at that point in the game. Obviously Iowa stopping themselves on 4th and 2 was a great relief.

Like I said, people not willing to acknowledge a tense, key moment in the game.

 

uminks

October 2nd, 2022 at 3:57 AM ^

The offense needs to open up the passing game to our WRs. We need to.come away with TDs in drives, if we have any chance to finish off PSU and outscore OSU. Why is this team so slow at running off plays?

DeepBlueC

October 2nd, 2022 at 9:09 AM ^

The capacity for this board to come up with rationalizations for running a conservative, vanilla offense when we have first-rate skill players is apparently endless.  Harbaugh absolutely refuses to use McCarthy and his receivers to their full potential, for some unknown reason.  And I've completely given up on us ever using tempo as a weapon.

Beaublue

October 2nd, 2022 at 10:08 AM ^

Haven't read through all of the 193 hot takes quite yet and I am sure others have the same complaint.   But clearly the momentum of the game briefly flipped to Iowa late 3rd quarter and early 4th quarter in large part because of a lack of imaginative/aggressive play calling. 

IIRC Iowa had scored to make it 20-7.  On the ensuing Michigan drive we were 3 and 1 and Iowa came out in the most stacked defense I can remember (10 in the box with a safety about 4 yards back).   Sparty burned us last year by passing for a TD in the same situation.  Maryland burned Sparty yesterday in the same situation by passing on 3 and 1 late in the game.  Now, I don't mind a run call here but, for Pete's sake, run something else than just into the strength of the defensive formation.  

 

MGoBlue24

October 2nd, 2022 at 10:12 AM ^

LSA, please track the use of ‘turtle/turtled/turtling’ in the State of our Threads, thanks. I am a mere fan, but Harbaugh and the players seemed pretty happy in post game interviews. Good for them.

JWG Wolverine

October 2nd, 2022 at 5:08 PM ^

Got the job done. Improvements at OL, QB, and Blake Corum being Blake Corum.

My issue is that, in albeit limited targets, the receivers looked pretty bad today. Multiple routes missed or not given full effort, and practically zero non-gimme catches. That’s how I feel — we’ll see if the film bears that out. Wish they got a little more chances to showcase their talent...