Has Big Ten Regular Season Champion Methodology been determined?
February 21st, 2021 at 6:28 PM ^
Believe it’s winning percentage.
February 22nd, 2021 at 8:15 AM ^
They haven't officially announced it, but the CBS announcers did say it's probably how it would be decided.
I don't think they go out on a limb and say that unless the B10 told them and it's a way to break it to the rest of the conference (Illinois) who is going to be mad we got an "advantage" by playing less games.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:30 PM ^
Michigan Radio today said it was winning percentage.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:30 PM ^
The only way to logically do it is win percentage. Would be pretty shitty to punish teams for not playing due to COVID.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:32 PM ^
Beat Illinois when we play them and it wont matter.
February 21st, 2021 at 9:42 PM ^
You can say that again!
February 21st, 2021 at 6:32 PM ^
Beat Illinois when we play them and it wont matter.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:13 PM ^
ditto
February 21st, 2021 at 6:38 PM ^
Hold on. Winning percentage makes the most sense AND the Big Ten is using that method?
What about the Big Ten's mission statement, to seek the words possible outcome by causing the most confusion in the most places for the most people?
February 21st, 2021 at 7:32 PM ^
Down votes? I don't understand. I'm making fun of the Big Ten, which is standard stuff in this neighborhood. So what's the beef? Is someone defending the Big Ten office?
February 21st, 2021 at 7:56 PM ^
I downvote you for caring if people downvote. This isn’t middle school popularity contests, peeps.
Thank you for your service. (Unless you are a veterinarian and in that case, $450 for a neuter? My god!)
February 21st, 2021 at 8:16 PM ^
Popularity ain't my concern. I act on the assumption that people have reasons for posting what they do. Most of the time, down or up voted, I can figure out why.
For instance, I see that you seem to be concerned about popularity, so it makes sense that you'd down vote when you think I am too.
But when I don't know, I do that weird thing that some people do when they don't know: I ask. Especially when someone defends Big Ten decision making.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:18 PM ^
Not a veterinarian though I did play a doctor on TV.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:56 PM ^
They could be making fun of the clerical error, which is standard stuff in this neighborhood.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:39 PM ^
Just make 100 duplicate accounts and upvote your original post. Works for me. I've never had a legitimate upvote on this site.
February 22nd, 2021 at 5:54 AM ^
Upvoted for honesty.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:41 PM ^
Here's an interesting scenario: what if Illinois wins out, and Michigan wins all their games except against Illinois. Michigan would barely have the better winning percentage (0.88 vs 0.85), but Michigan would have lost its only game to the 2nd place team and played 3 less games. I could see a lot of whining from Illinois fans if that happened.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:24 PM ^
I see whining from Illinois fans no matter what happens.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:58 PM ^
Illinois fans will only whine if we beat them. They won't care if a non-rival beats them.
February 22nd, 2021 at 12:18 AM ^
When we SMACKED their asses twice in 89’ it was pure MIchigan.
February 22nd, 2021 at 9:28 AM ^
I'm not sure who "we" is in your post, but in 1989 Michigan only beat Illinois once. Of course it was the one that mattered...
February 21st, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
Chances are really high that we would beat PSU, NW and Indiana and if we only had 2 losses that just sucks for them even if they beat us. I want to beat them though to remove any doubt.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:22 PM ^
I mean the thing is, if Michigan went 3-0 against NW, PSU and Indiana (at home), we'd win the Big Ten even if we lost to Illinois. It's more likely than not Michigan would've went 3-0 during that stretch, two of those teams are bottom 3 in the conference and IU is a mid-level team that would've been coming to Ann Arbor with us on a hot streak.
Also, will not be surprised if Illinois loses again even if they beat us. They have to visit the Buckeyes in Columbus (who they already lost to once), as well as the Badgers in Madison.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:37 PM ^
"Michigan would have lost its only game to the 2nd place team and played 3 FEWER games." s/ Stannis Baratheon
February 21st, 2021 at 8:53 PM ^
Illinois' final 3 games are @Wisconsin, @Mich, @OSU. That is brutal.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:43 PM ^
It's the B1G. They're going to wait until the last weekend and announce whatever it takes to give the season title to 0$u. Probably while M is up 30 on STAEE.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:56 PM ^
unless there is a total collapse by us and illinois (and one of us has to win that game anyway, thus no total collapse), i think ohio is playing for second place under literally every possible scenario.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:30 PM ^
OSU can catch Illinois (especially because they have the potential to sweep the Illini for a H2H tiebreaker), but they very likely can't catch us.
Michigan would have to go 1-4 or 0-5 down the stretch for OSU to surpass us even if they win out. If we go 2-3, we'd be 13-4, which is a winning percentage of 0.76, higher than OSU's best case of 0.75 (15-5).
Same goes for Iowa, who also has 5 losses. Even if we lose to both Iowa and Illinois, we just need to win 2/3 against IU and MSU (x2) in order to clinch a 2 seed in the BTT.
All in all, unless we totally collapse, the worst Michigan can place in the Big Ten is #2; only Illinois can catch us.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:46 PM ^
Beat Illinois and you win the big ten outright most likely.
February 21st, 2021 at 6:59 PM ^
If it's best winning % then Michigan's magic number is 4 (Mich. wins & Illinois loses).Example :Mich.wins 4 out of 5 Mich is Champ.because 15-2 win % is higher than 17-3.If Mich wins 3 out of 5 they need 1 Illinois loss because 14-3 is higher win % than 16-4.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
It’s the Juwan Howard pick your winner mechanism - Win it whichever way you please
February 21st, 2021 at 7:03 PM ^
Winning percentage.
Also, as this is the Big Ten and nothing is that easy, relative humidity on the final Thursday before the conference tournament as measured at O'Hare multiplied by the number of times the Red Sox blew a lead at a critical moment.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:12 PM ^
JUST WIN!!!!
February 21st, 2021 at 7:23 PM ^
BEAT IOWA BEAT ILLINOIS BEAT INDIANA BEAT MSU TWICE
February 21st, 2021 at 7:39 PM ^
I like this plan. Let's do it.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:47 PM ^
I doubly like this plan too.
Red 1 ready
Redd Foxx ready
Simply Red ready
Helen Reddy ready...
February 21st, 2021 at 8:45 PM ^
Will Reddy Kilowatt be ready? For that matter, what about the preparedness of Red Auerbach, Red Buttons, Red Skelton and Michigan's own Red Berenson?
February 21st, 2021 at 9:46 PM ^
Win the game.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:25 PM ^
All I know is if Michigan takes care of business (not a given, but if they do), there’d better not be a single OSU player, coach or fan bitching about how unfair it is that Michigan wins the Big Ten when OSU will have played more games. It’s the same argument Indiana used against OSU and exact same situation, because IU lost the head to head but played more games and took care of business against everyone not named OSU. And lo and behold, OSU still won the division, the conference, and not a single person in OSU fandom complained.
If that’s OSU’s argument, in that situation, then I hope they’re ready to completely forfeit their football conference title and give it to Indiana.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
Kevin Warren needs to delegate this decision.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:40 PM ^
OSU has 5 conference losses. They're all but eliminated. It's down to us and the Illini.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:01 PM ^
Exactly, Illinois is the only team besides us with a chance in hell of finishing in 1st place.
I believe we go at least 4-1 or 5-0 to finish 15-2(20-2 overall ) or 16-1(21-1 overall ).before the B1G Tournament.
If this had been a normal season, our record could have been somewhere between 32-2 and 30-4 if we made the conference final before the NCAA tournament.
February 21st, 2021 at 8:47 PM ^
Wouldn’t stop them from complaining about it.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:51 PM ^
Winning percentage and least number of losses are effectively the same criteria. The only way it isn’t is if Michigan goes 11-6 and Illinois goes 13-7 then Illinois has more losses BUT a better percentage. And that would be an epic collapse for both teams at which point OSU, Purdue and Iowa are back in the conversation.
February 21st, 2021 at 7:57 PM ^
Pretty sure they use the preseason rankings to predetermine the winner. Remember when MSu and Rutgers were both ranked and we weren't? Good times!
February 21st, 2021 at 10:45 PM ^
Least number of losses wins.
In case of an equal number of losses, Michigan loses all tie breakers (worse winning pct).
Honestly, if Michigan beats Illinois, it's all but over anyway.
Lots of outs if they lose to Illinois.