Guardian caps for practice?
In watching various teams get ready for fall as BTN tours the campuses, I notice that all teams appear to be wearing Guardian caps over their helmets. The caps are designed to protect players from head trauma. They are required for all NFL practices that involve contact. I have not noticed pictures or video of Michigan players wearing them. Does anyone know if they are indeed wearing them?
August 20th, 2023 at 5:59 PM ^
Counting down to the poster who pulls a Larry Fedora and says guardian caps are ruining America.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^
Guardian caps are second least troubling headwear in this sentence.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:48 PM ^
I just tried using Dall-E 2 to generate an image of a Michigan football player wearing a fedora and failed miserably. Switching to a borsalino didn't yield any better results.
Obviously, I need help.
August 21st, 2023 at 9:43 AM ^
Logged in to upvote! This is [chef's kiss].
August 20th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
It’s a Stanzo…they’re nice.
August 20th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
For $200 they could probably get 50 Stanzo brand fedoras.
August 20th, 2023 at 10:56 PM ^
$200 could also buy a lot of plastic meatballs for next year’s BBQ at the Big House.
August 20th, 2023 at 11:45 PM ^
But how many hot dogs?
August 20th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^
Interesting choice to find something that protects players and then the NFL not use them during the actually dangerous times.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
If you look at the inside of a modern football helmet, there isn’t much more they can do. It’s a pillow. A guardian cap isn’t making or breaking anything. It is basically to check a box if you ask me.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:39 PM ^
They said concussions are down like 50% in NFL camps this season ... but they also control those stats. Who knows
August 20th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
They aren't wearing them for games...because they look dorky?
August 20th, 2023 at 7:54 PM ^
I got newz for everybody--if you don't run into people and smash hell out of them it's safer, too.
August 20th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
yes. they do. like...I ain't playing in that dorky.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^
visualizing an image of the winged version is not a happy trail to take.
August 20th, 2023 at 11:44 PM ^
Not really dorky at all. They just make everyone look like a penis.
August 20th, 2023 at 11:48 PM ^
Spaceballs was so ahead of its time.
August 21st, 2023 at 9:45 AM ^
What could be more manly than a giant penis?
August 21st, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^
You might want to get that checked out, man.
August 21st, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
Looks like Juggernaut to me.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:57 PM ^
It was last season and the numbers were very low because they used them in very few exhibition games. But it was such a large reduction (IIRC, 11 concussions diagnosed when in a similar sample of games without the caps they had 23) that they considered the test very promising.
In addition, they said 7 of the 11 concussions diagnosed were as a result of a hit on the facemask, which the cap wouldn't affect.
There's a long way to go before any protective equipment ever gets approved for any level, but I think these caps might be part of the future of the sport.
August 20th, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^
A Guardian cap won't do a whole lot to mitigate a high-impact blow to the head, but it should help to some degree with the low-impact collisions that happen regularly (particularly on the lines) and which can have a cumulative effect.
I do think they should (and likely will, eventually) use them in games also.
August 21st, 2023 at 6:47 AM ^
As a high school coach whose team uses Guardian Caps, they're supposed to reduce the impact to the brain by about 33%. Last year we had just two diagnosed concussions during practice - which was a large reduction from the previous years - and both of them were due to odd circumstances.
On one of them, the player was running, tripped, and fell flat on his face with his facemask slamming into the ground, and there's no Guardian Cap in place to cover the facemask.
On the other one, an offensive lineman was way too high when being asked to trap and he didn't move his head out of the way, and he ran full speed into another player's helmet. One got concussed and the other didn't, but the player used poor technique, which led to the concussion. So the Guardian Cap didn't really work, but also...the player screwed up. Poor technique - when you don't use your head properly - is going to cause problems, which is why we try to teach proper technique.
Anyway, the point is that the Guardian Caps work. They're not perfect. Seat belts don't reduce fatalities to zero. But they do help a good deal.
August 21st, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^
Wait, what? So the inside of the helmet is a pillow which helps, but also putting a pillow on the outside won't do any good? Sounds like you've done a lot of research and testing to come to this conclusion.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:09 PM ^
We do with our high school players for every practice. Makes sense.
August 20th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Don’t know why they only wear Guardian caps. What if you root for a different team?
August 20th, 2023 at 8:02 PM ^
Those Guardian caps obviously didn't help them at all this weekend, Tigers took 3 of 4 at Progressive (or whatever they currently call their stadium).
August 21st, 2023 at 10:56 AM ^
I could swear this was a baseball thread and assumed it was some sort of strange crossover due to someone Harbs knew on the Guardians
August 20th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Doesn't seem like Michigan uses them. I don't think they're the only team in the big ten to not use them
August 20th, 2023 at 7:27 PM ^
if they don't use them that is better for team building so I tend to hope you are right. that said, injuries range from ok to unthinkably bad.
if a player has a medical history that merits it, probably should be at least "highly recommended" by the staff
August 20th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
if they don't use them that is better for team building
What does one have to do with the other?
August 20th, 2023 at 9:56 PM ^
I hear that teams that don’t wear protective cups bond better.
August 20th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
Teams that don’t wear protective cups bond better.
Source: The ENTIRE Northwestern Football Team
August 21st, 2023 at 8:15 AM ^
If a player has a history of concussions, the wearing a Guardian cap in practice should be more than "highly recommended". The word 'mandatory' comes to mind...
August 21st, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
Does anyone remember a Buffulo Bills player that wore a double shell helmet in the early '90s? Seems like that was a thing based on his medical history?
August 21st, 2023 at 9:04 AM ^
Mark Kelso
August 21st, 2023 at 9:36 AM ^
Don Beebe!
August 21st, 2023 at 9:36 AM ^
Don Beebe?
Relatedly, the story about John Olerud and Rickey Henderson is hilarious. Google should get you there
August 21st, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
Probably one of my favorite professional athlete stories ever
August 20th, 2023 at 7:34 PM ^
At least wear a Tiger's cap? AmIrite?
August 20th, 2023 at 7:49 PM ^
what *I* am wondering is what were those sports bra looking things they were wearing in Michigan Made episode five
August 20th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
Manssiere?
August 20th, 2023 at 10:52 PM ^
The Bro
August 20th, 2023 at 8:52 PM ^
They track their speed and movement via a GPS-like technology. Probably also track HR, breathing rate, blood pressure, etc.
August 21st, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^
I'm a data science/machine learning hobbyist which means I waste a lot of time with tutorials and Reddit posts and can spout nonsense, but I don't actually know anything. It amazes me all of the things we can figure out with data these days. It also amazes me how little data science we actually do. A fellow dad on my kids' soccer team does analytics on a 1,000 factors for NASCAR, but he does almost all of it in excel.
August 20th, 2023 at 11:22 PM ^
https://www.catapult.com/solutions/athlete-monitoring
I've seen them in European soccer for several years now so I'm used to it but I do remember thinking, back when they first hit the scene, WTF is that dude wearing??