FSU: Injuries Count
Some people are amazed when the Committee does exactly what it said it would do. The Committee’s own procedures say it must consider injuries. (The basketball committee does that too.) In contrast, there is nothing that says an undefeated P5 champ must be in the top four. I grieve for Florida State, but after its starting QB went down it simply has not been the same team.
Some in the media were arguing that Washington should leapfrog Michigan, because its win over Oregon “looked better” than Michigan’s slog over Iowa. But the Committee had Michigan consistently above Washington starting in Week 9, when Michigan still had not played Penn State, Ohio State, or Iowa. There was no way the same people who ranked them in that order were going to change their minds after Michigan handled Iowa 26–0.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:30 PM ^
No team has ever won the CFP with a back up QB.........makes total sense.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
FSU, on their 3rd string QB, beat a top 15 team in the rain. I would have thought that the committee would have taken that, along with a month to prepare, into account. My opinion is that with a month to prepare, whoever FSU rolls out there at QB would be comparable to Milroe.
What I find laughable is that they put FSU over UGA in their rankings. If FSU, without Travis, is better than UGA, then they are also better than Bama. But whatever. Let them have their SEC team in the CFP, as required by law.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
Injuries shouldn't count
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
FSU got screwed like we got screwed 50 years ago. Except FSU's QB won't be throwing snowballs by the time the Rose Bowl rolls around, like Franklin was. So, we were screwed worse
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:34 PM ^
FSU got screwed. Either use the "best 4" criteria or "who earned it" criteria. It's as if they used the "who earned it" when putting in Washington and Texas, the pivoted to the "best 4" criteria to put Bama in. Pick one. Because if it's the best 4 then you could have just announced Michigan, OSU, Bama, and Georgia a couple of weeks ago.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:37 PM ^
I do feel bad for FSU's entire team but what I can't get past is how Jordan Travis must feel right now. If you were an athlete and ever got injured you know that when you got hurt you can't help but think you let your team down. Then add the CFP committee saying without any doubt that your injury kept your entire team from playing for a National Title. I don't wish that feeling on anyone.
I am also thinking about all the Michigan fans who were around n 1973 and are experiencing horrible flashbacks from the B10 doing the exact same thing to us.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^
Totally. He is devastated. He just came out with a horrifying statement, saying that he wished he had gotten injured earlier in the season so that they could prove themselves without him. Ugh
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^
Then why did Cincinnati make the playoff? It was obvious they weren't one of the top 4 teams in college football, yet they made it in.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:40 PM ^
Does the CFP committee drop their guidelines after the first four teams? If the criteria gets thrown out, okay. If not, then how did the committee rank FSU above Georgia? Isn't it basically the same analysis? Georgia lost to Bama in a close, hard-fought game. If the committee is trying to rank according to which team is "better," that seems pretty hypocritical.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:40 PM ^
Injuries count
Games apparently don’t
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:45 PM ^
Prepare yourselves for players lying about injuries now. Torn ACL? Sure, he will be ready for the playoffs in five weeks. He was just “working through something”!
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^
Consistency counts to me - if injuries matter then Michigan should not be #1 - they are just making crap up to justify an SEC team getting in because it’s the “best conference” which is a garbage subjective take….check out the SEC out of conference results this year - the sad thing is when an SEC team is interested, motivated and with weeks to prepare, the probability is in their favor to win another title.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:07 PM ^
$EC counts; all else is just 'splaining.
Anyway, who cares; what's done is done.
Beat Bama.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^
Texas is the only team that scares me in the CFP. They beat an Oklahoma State team that in the SEC, ACC and B1G would not have even sniffed a conference championship game, but Texas looked dominant in that win. There wasn't any position group on Texas' team that I watched yesterday that had a weak spot.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:20 PM ^
No, they messed up. They left out an undefeated FSU... Let that sink it. There will be domino effects in the future that will spur FSU to leave the ACC because it's all a joke.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^
Bad post and bad opinion. Another way to frame this asinine argument is that FSU lose their best and most impressive player and STILL has a better record than a fully healthy bama who got dog walked at home
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^
CFP: Everything matters, but also nothing matters because we will pick whatever the fuck we want anyway.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:29 PM ^
UM - UW final
A couple of inaccurate Milroe passes will be intercepted.
And more than a couple of accurate JJ passes will cost Bama if they stack the box.
Penix > Ewers for the W.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:31 PM ^
Norvell's statement probably says it best but this is a complete joke.
OSU won with a 3rd string QB. The Eagles won the Super Bowl with MVP Carson Wentz being injured.
FSU beat a top 12 Louisville team with their 3rd QB. An undefeated, Power 5 champ being left out for TWO teams with a loss?
Bama needed a miracle to beat 6-6 Auburn JUST LAST WEEK
Is it just based on whatever vibes exist after the conference championships? Whether you personally believe it, hasn't Florida St earned the chance to prove they ARE one of the best teams in the country?
Why play any of your best players against the absolute dogs on your schedule? Should Michigan sit JJ every year against teams like MSU or Minnesota?
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
If the committee is so confident about who the best teams are then just fucking anoint the champion in your cigar room and be done with it
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
Dennis Franklin.
Nothing more needs to be said.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
Vegas doesn't agree with the people on here who are saying FSU is one of the best four. Not even close in fact.
They'd be underdogs by a touchdown plus against any team in the top 8.
Deserving works fine as an argument.
Saying they are one of the best four currently is taking it way too far.
Last night: They had a team who lost to Pitt on National TV with the world watching. And instead of putting a beat down on them (knowing they needed to put a beat down on them), they needed a lousy decision in the red zone by Louisville's QB to sneak out of Dodge.
I think they got a raw deal too. But they were forewarned by the simple logic of their situation. And they didn't deliver.
Bama on the other hand won a virtual play-in game against the best program in the sport the last three seasons.
Georgia would beat Louisville by whatever score they choose to beat them by. Let's be real.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:09 PM ^
Vegas also had Oregon -9.5 Washington. Games matter.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
The faux outrage in most of this thread is about 1% 'FSU deserved it' and about 99% 'pissed because Michigan has a much harder semifinal game'.
Bring on Alabama. Let's see if this Michigan team is really as good as we all think they are.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:42 PM ^
BULLSHIT.
Games either matter or they don't.
They don't. It's been obvious for years. Today just made it official is all.
December 3rd, 2023 at 2:43 PM ^
If injuries count then why wasn’t FSU behind Bama 3 weeks ago?
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:00 PM ^
You are a bot.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
So in 2021 Cincinnati gets into the CFP because they are undefeated, but an undefeated FSU gets shut out this year? There is no consistency. The CFP committee are all in the bag.
But while I feel bad for FSU I am very confident and don't care who we play next. Alabama? Fine with it and I am happy UM has a month to get ready to play. I trust our coaches, all of them! Shout-outs to all: Steve Clinkscale, Jesse Minter, Sherrone, Kirk Campbell, Ron Bellamy, Mike Elston, Jay Harbaugh, Mike Hart, Grant Newsome, Ben Herbert!! And of course, Coach Harbaugh!
This is a very professional team and we will play well on New Year's Day.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:11 PM ^
Reminds me of the Big Ten in 1973 giving Michigan the middle finger after 10-10 tie with Ohio State and Dennis Franklin broke his collar bone.
Franklin's back up was QB Larry Cipa #13 who was drafted by the Saints 1974/1975
It's all bullshit fellas.
Complete bullshit.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^
Did the injury count last week when FSU was at number 4 with their backup QB?
December 3rd, 2023 at 9:04 PM ^
This is a terrible precedent. Rules don’t apply.