bleed blue 1

June 10th, 2021 at 3:44 PM ^

This is so dumb the top teams will still dominate actually they probably will dominate even more since they can coast in the regular season without consequences. Ohio state would literally have been in every playoffs since 2014 in this format .I want Michigan to have a better shot at winning a championship as much as anyone but will we really have a better chance if we have to first face Georgia then beat Alabama then defeat whoever is in the championship.  Whats more likely to happen is we get embarrassed before we even sniff top 4 .

KC Wolve

June 10th, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^

It must really suck to be a fan and have this level of dread for the team. Like, I can't even comprehend being a fan, coming to a teams message board, and then just hating everything. 

What do you want to happen? If the team can't beat those teams, they don't deserve the title? Its as simple as that. Would you rather UM just play teams they can easily beat and just say they don't want in the playoff? 

bleed blue 1

June 10th, 2021 at 6:23 PM ^

NO DUH THATS MY POINT.  They wouldn't deserve it in the first place  thats the point I dont think the 12, 8 , 9  or whatever team deserves a shot nor would I think they could actually beat the top 4 teams where this format would matter. Like pls tell me the last michigan in memory that actually was good enough to beat a end of the season top 4 team. 

angry panda

June 10th, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^

I like that expanding does not require perfection. Sometimes great teams have an off day, bad weather game, star player injured, etc. But if you lose 3 games....then you're probably not a National Championship caliber team that just had a bad day/circumstance.

I will say though, that I'm glad its top 4 conference champs, so if that 9-3 NW, Utah, Florida, etc. does happen to upset the undefeated/ 1 loss OSU, USC, 'Bama. They've earned their spot, but probably not getting a Bye....and the loser of that CCG is probably also losing their bye in a lot of cases. 

It still makes CCG mean something....

WestPalmBlue

June 10th, 2021 at 4:28 PM ^

The final four will still likely come down to Alabama, OSU, Clemson and one of Georgia/LSU/Oklahoma and the rest of the games will just be typical bowl games renamed as playoff games but hopefully in this scenario less players decide  to sit out the post season.  Likely the top recruits still go to the three schools with the best chance to win the whole thing and in the end its the same three plus one at large

DHughes5218

June 10th, 2021 at 5:18 PM ^

We definitely need to get rid of playing osu the last game of the regular season. Also now a season can be considered a success, even if you don’t win the conference.

Adamantium

June 10th, 2021 at 6:18 PM ^

Finally. Anybody else notice all the recruits go to 3-5 schools every year while hmm, only 4 schools can be selected to compete for the CFP?

Give it a few years for recruits to start distributing themselves from the S-tier to the A- and B-tier schools and we should see some dilution of the cumulative advantage regime we've all been forced to endure.

In theory all we'd have to do is build a competitive bagman network and boom we could be right up there with OSU again. Ignoring the fact that "Michigan Man" culture would likely never allow it...

Panther72

June 10th, 2021 at 6:58 PM ^

Like it or not, the uncertainty and opportunity of a hot team running deep adds to the playoffs. I hope we get away from the 4 team  invitational championship. There has been enough doubt concerning actual strength of schedule of each conference and with twelve teams competing, that argument is taken away.

Ezekiels Creatures

June 10th, 2021 at 10:18 PM ^

Strength of schedule was a big issue in 2014 when Florida St had a comparatively weak schedule, was undefeated, and got in over TCU who deserved to be in. It would have been a better playoff with TCU in. The Florida St. vs. Oregon game was a joke. And what a joke!

MFanWM

June 10th, 2021 at 10:01 PM ^

Amazing how the other divisions can manage a much larger playoffs system and it works pretty damn good....Division 3, 2, FCS, high school football, all seem to create a lot of excitement of playoff games and earning home field advantage.

To me, move it to 16 games and nix maybe only use the old primary bowl games for semis/championship game.

Ezekiels Creatures

June 10th, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^

Make it 16, the next 2 being the highest ranked remaining teams after the 6 and 6 are determined.

I don't like byes. The fans should see the teams that are in byes instead play in games.

OldSchoolWolverine

June 10th, 2021 at 10:23 PM ^

If they implement this then i wish they'd dump the Conference championships and go back to the old way of best record, and also cut down regular season a game or two. If not, then it's tacking on another four games potentially, so, what, 17 games max ?  Vs 14 games man pre conference title game.  That's a lot for players.  

LabattsBleu

June 10th, 2021 at 10:23 PM ^

i would have been happy with 8, but 12 is better than the current format.

At least all the teams in the playoffs will be playing meaningful bowls...the NY day bowls were nice, but ultimately began to lose prestige because they were not CFB playoff games.

Perkis-Size Me

June 11th, 2021 at 7:21 AM ^

I expect everyone not named Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney and Ryan Day to be on board with this. 

Those three are already getting in every year anyway. Why are they going to want to have to go play more games to win? My answer to that is for them to go suck a bag of lemons. 

Beat Rutgerland

June 11th, 2021 at 10:07 AM ^

Highest ranked group of 5 team needs an auto-bid, but otherwise fine. I wish we'd never gone to a playoff at all, but bowl games are already ruined, and the rich get richer recruiting thing is already a problem, so there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

M_Born M_Believer

June 11th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^

I believe that too many people are over re-acting here.  First, the top 4 seeds get a bye.  This is huge.  Second, there will only be 6 at large bids.  Might do the research here, but there were not too many 3 loss teams that finish in the top 12, let alone a 4 loss team.

I would think that 2 losses max is what can solidly put you in the discussion for an at-large bid.  Otherwise, there would have to be some crazy circumstances to let a 3 loss team (Let alone a 4 loss team) in over a multitude of 2 loss teams.

Of course there is the SEC bias here, but any said committee would have plenty of explaining to do if they put in a 3rd (particularly 4th) team from the same conference......

EDIT: Just did a quick check on the rankings since 2014, no 4 loss team finished in the top 12, and 18 - 3 loss teams did.  If you take that all 18 would have made it (there were examples where other teams ranked 13-16 with fewer losses "could have been invited"), that averages out to 2.5 per year.  So a 3 loss team would have to A) play an opening round (I would make it a road game) and if they can make it past that game, then get the luxury of playing Bama, Clemson, or OSU in the 2nd round......

Double EDIT: Michigan would have made it to the playoffs twice for sure ('16 and '18) and most likely a 3rd time in '19 (remember they finished the season 9-2 before laying down for UF)

Yay making the playoffs 3 times the past 6 years would have been WAAAAAAYYYYYY more entertaining..........