Apparent Bowl opt-outs include MHJr and Joe Milton
Marvin Harrison Jr., though with the team, is not practicing and is presumed to be opting out of the game and entering the draft. So says everyone, despite any official announcement.
Denzel Burke announced that he will announce on Jan. 10. I don't know why the 10th. Deadline to declare is Jan. 15.
Elsewhere, Joe Milton did make it officially official.
December 28th, 2023 at 12:25 AM ^
He'll come in when the team needs a 65 yard Hail Mary play.
December 27th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^
He's ranked the no 10 QB in the draft by Mel Kiper. Not sure where that puts him in the typical draft.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
Milton is absolutely going pro.
He's going to go to the combine, throw the ball 90 yards at 105mph, and some team is going to risk a pick on him and his insane raw ability.
The same way UM recruited him, despite a completion percentage under 50% in HS. The same way UT portal'd him, despite him looking abysmal at UM.
His skills are there, so someone in the NFL is going to convince themselves that they can polish him in to an NFL starter.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^
"his skills are there"?........, I think you mean talent is there (buried deep). The skills are definitely not there.
December 27th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
And yet, the kid won the starting job out of camp at two different Power 5 schools. He beat out Hendon Hooker who was on his way to being a first round draft pick before injury. Milton obviously has a cannon but he must posses something else that convinces coaches he should start.
December 27th, 2023 at 5:46 PM ^
Oh, I didn't realize we were discussing his college career. I thought we were sharing our thoughts on his projection to the NFL. Tee Martin won a national championship at Tennessee. Charlie Ward won a Heisman and a national championship. Vince Young was unstoppable at Texas. Stetson Bennett won 2 titles. Obviously all of those guys were/are NFL HOF's because they are the same skill set.
December 27th, 2023 at 5:54 PM ^
Vince Young had a great pro career going before his personal issues took over. Charlie Ward was a first round pick in the NBA and had a decent pro career. Like Young Bennett has some personal demons but he got drafted and was a backup as a rookie.
I'm not saying Milton will be an all pro but I absolutely see teams looking at his expressed skills and his potential and thinking he could be a starter in the league.
December 27th, 2023 at 9:08 PM ^
Vince Young had a career QBR of 53 in the NFL and had 51 Ints to 46 TDs. That's pretty crappy. Meanwhile, he was one of the most dominant college QB's to ever play. He single-handedly won Texas a National Title. My point was that NFL and college skillsets are very different.
December 27th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
I'm not sure I understand your point. Sorry. But, yes, we are discussing Milton's projection to the pros. My point is that the same pattern that saw him win the starting job at two big-time programs in college will repeat itself in the draft and the pros. The kid must be a phenomenal weekday QB and from what I've read, he's very hard-working, coachable, and likeable. Some nfl coach/exec is going to be enamored with his tools and think they can mold him into a nfl starter.
December 27th, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
I'm rooting for the kid. It's kind of a rags to riches story. But, I would question your assertion that Milton's improvement over 6 years to a passable QB on a pass-happy team in a division struggling to play defense, is any kind of a sure translation to the NFL. And that his skill-set seems weak for an NFL QB, to me.
December 27th, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^
I see where the confusion is. I'm not saying that at all, just the opposite in fact. For context see my other posts in this thread. I DON'T think he will be a good nfl QB--although I hope he will be. He won the starting job at two major programs but turned out to be mediocre and was supplanted as starter at both. His arm and whatever else he brings to the table seems highly seductive, even if his actual game day performance is wanting. IMO, he will somehow find a way to convince some coach/GM to draft him too high and name him a starter at some point where I think he will underperform.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^
I questioned back then why the heck we wasted a scholarship on him. 🤔
December 28th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^
oh, sure you did.
December 27th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^
The same way UM recruited him, despite a completion percentage under 50% in HS. The same way UT portal'd him, despite him looking abysmal at UM.
Good thing for Joe, scouts are going to go off his 63% college college completion rate rather than his high school stats
December 27th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
Milton will be a good fit on a YouTube channel where the goal is to see who can throw a ball the farthest
December 27th, 2023 at 4:28 PM ^
He's probably a better fit as a baseball pitcher.
December 27th, 2023 at 9:06 PM ^
In what game are suggesting Milton demonstrated skills worthy of the NFL?
Why does Tennessee have so many rushing yards?
December 27th, 2023 at 2:16 PM ^
He will be a good fit on a USFL roster
December 27th, 2023 at 2:46 PM ^
Anthony Richardson just went silly high in the last draft, and one could argue that Milton has a better body of college work.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:59 PM ^
He's absolutely going Pro.
December 27th, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
Anthony Richardson went 4th overall on potential alone. Somebody will reach for Milton.
December 27th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
He has all the physical tools that can't be taught, and a pretty good frame for an NFL-sized QB, so its not crazy to think someone could take a late Day 3 flier on him in the hopes of developing him and getting his arm under control.
At this point I think most people have decided that Milton just is who he is at this point, but when you're getting deep into the draft, your positions of need are more or less filled and you have a very stable QB room, why not take a flier on a guy who you'll pay next to nothing for, but if you can be the one who finally develops him, you could have a very valuable asset in 2-3 years.
December 27th, 2023 at 7:39 PM ^
Milton will get drafted, because some NFL team will be "googly eyed" when he is his normal "practice champ", and displays his ridiculous arm strength. There's zero doubt. Especially after Anthony Richardson not only got drafted, but got drafted high, because of his "potential". Someone will see that potential with Milton, for sure.
December 27th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
Eddie is he going to college, no Clark, the Carnival
December 27th, 2023 at 10:42 PM ^
Perhaps the Pistons can utilize his potential.
December 28th, 2023 at 6:33 AM ^
yes, and he’s correct.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:43 PM ^
Whatever Milton's draft position and potential... none of it matters if he gets injured and that is the point. He is wearing that knee brace for a reason. Smart on his part.
December 27th, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
But OSU insiders said the MHjr was coming back 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
December 27th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
He will come back to clean out his room and get ready for the draft
December 27th, 2023 at 1:25 PM ^
It appears osu is playing games with Missouri on who is opting out. I'm sure decisions have been made but now Mizzou has to prep for everyone to play...
December 27th, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^
Even if they announced they all opted out, what else was Missouri going to prepare for? OSU's #5, #6, and #7 WRs?
December 27th, 2023 at 1:44 PM ^
MHJ's dominance affects the entire gameplan, so it makes sense to try to keep Missouri guessing. Even if they suspect, if they cannot be sure, they have to build an entire section of the defensive gameplan around him. Or they would risk getting torched. Particularly given the rest of the OSU offensive situation.
December 27th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^
If Marv isn't practicing, I'm pretty sure Mizzou knows he's not playing.
Also, why on earth would OSU, with its supreme arrogance, feel the need to play games with...Missouri?
December 28th, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^
Because they are terrified of the block M.
December 27th, 2023 at 1:25 PM ^
Make these pre Madonnas pay all their NIL back if they opt out . Easy fix
December 27th, 2023 at 1:30 PM ^
and make the OSU players give back their gold pants
wait
December 27th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
Pre Madonna, meaning before “Like a Virgin?” Or before Madonna was even born?
December 27th, 2023 at 1:38 PM ^
More like before Borderline. Yes, I know too much about Madonna.
December 27th, 2023 at 1:40 PM ^
Like when Ms. Ciccone lived on 4th Strauss in East Quad.
December 27th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^
I think pre-Madonna was her time as "Donna" working at Pretzel Bell.
December 27th, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^
I'm kinda wondering what a post Madonna looks like 🤔
December 27th, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
Like Post Malone?
December 27th, 2023 at 2:55 PM ^
or Moses Malone.
December 27th, 2023 at 3:15 PM ^
I'm kinda wondering what a post Madonna looks like 🤔
December 27th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
Pre Madonna, meaning before “Like a Virgin?” Or before Madonna was even born?
Same thing
December 27th, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^
Before primaMadonna
December 27th, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
Prima donna -- unless you do mean a young Louise Ciccone, struggling to make it in Manhattan?
December 27th, 2023 at 1:37 PM ^
Possibly the sarcasm was too much for us to handle
December 27th, 2023 at 1:40 PM ^
Seems to be a lot of the "I don't know what words mean or how to talk good" version of sarcasm in this thread