Alabama Freshman All American safety Caleb Downs transferring to OSU
Goddamn, Ryan Day ain't fucking around
Former Alabama safety Caleb Downs commits to Ohio State - Pete Thamel http://espn.com/app
January 19th, 2024 at 9:21 PM ^
Don't forget it's a real conference championship game now too. 3 game schedule!
January 19th, 2024 at 10:15 PM ^
PSU will take strides forward in relation to Drew Allar's freshman to sophomore leap. They will be better if only because their offense cannot be worse against functional defenses.
January 19th, 2024 at 10:19 PM ^
Sawyer looked like a different player in the cotton bowl/back end of the year and this D backfield with Burke, Hancock and Ransom back is pretty scary. Multiple losses is quite a bit of a stretch there.
January 20th, 2024 at 1:42 AM ^
The defense is legit. That goes a long way. But if superior talent on paper won you games you wouldnt be in this spot. Who wouldve thought Burke, Hancock, Ransom and MHJ would have a multiple loss season?
January 20th, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^
I think those two are what they are at this point. Never understood the Sawyer hype and JTT has for the most part been a disappointment. Had they played under Minter and or McDonald things may have been different.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
We brought in 2 guys from the portal. Fuck this
January 19th, 2024 at 9:06 PM ^
...what is the object of your demonstrative pronoun? "this [national championship]"?
January 19th, 2024 at 9:12 PM ^
Yeah because we were busy winning the national title while OSU was sitting on their sofa looking for change in the cushions to buy a better roster. Theres still a spring transfer window
January 19th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
Someone needs to enforce a tampering rule..
January 19th, 2024 at 11:31 PM ^
That sounds reasonable but when they start to do so they'll immediately focus on Michigan.
January 20th, 2024 at 12:49 AM ^
I don’t think I would want to be in OSU’s position on this topic in light of the NIL related investigations at UF and FSU. Everyone knows what’s going on at OSU, just like with UF (in particular).
January 20th, 2024 at 1:47 AM ^
UF and Tenn got busted because they cheated (just like Goergia and Bama) but they sucked so they get nuked. FSU ran its mouth much like Harbaugh. There are 3 untouchables and they couldnt fuck it up if they wanted to concerning the NCAA.
Bama, Georgia, and OSU.
Now please write this down because I believe this with every fiber of my being. If Bama struggles in back to back seasons the NCAA will come swoop in on that coach. He will be looked a just like at shitty Florida and a shitty Tennessee was. Very curious only bad teams cheat in the SEC. Very curious indeed.
January 20th, 2024 at 4:00 PM ^
Give the ncaa time and it’ll somehow involve Michigan.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
Oh wow can’t wait to see what osu can finally do with some talent. Next.
January 19th, 2024 at 10:41 PM ^
While the homer in me agrees, OSU was literally a field goal miss away from a possible national championship last year. So they aren't far off as a program.
Had they won last year and (even if we then won this year), they probably wouldn't be working so hard on nil and the transfer portal now.
They are very sore. Day trying to save his butt. And now that he knows everything about Harbaugh via his former roommate's connection to the PI firm, which may include lots of stuff we havent heard about since it was all legit, Day is copying some ideas, trying to capitalize better on others (recruiting) and otherwise getting his ego all jacked up for revenge.
Sky isn't falling for Michigan, but it would be nice to see some transfer wins, even if solid backups.
January 19th, 2024 at 11:43 PM ^
Day is copying some ideas
I loved it when Day noticed that Harbaugh was getting his players all pumped before games. Hitting the QB's shoulder pads, bonding with players, etc. So Day decided to copy that idea. He made a little mosh pit and jumped around with a whistle and made himself look life a buffoon.
Or how he noticed we kept kicking ass with our running game, so he decided to try and be a running team this year. Except that didn't work so well because every time he failed to get decent yardage on a 1st down run he never had the courage to run on 2nd down.
Day can keep trying to copy ideas. They might have been a field goal away from the championship game last year, but with the expanded B1G and expanded playoff, their years of easy paths are past. That's not to say they're out of contention—but I would say that even with the stellar recruiting their odds of winning it all have decreased with the recent changes.
January 20th, 2024 at 1:54 AM ^
I swear to god that fucking loss by Ohio st is their biggest win of 2022. Please people save it for Joey Galloway telling everyone this bed time story.
Not since CJ Strouds passing yards at Michigan has such a losing effort been so celebrated. Even on this board. Sick.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
(Martin Brody’s voice) We’re going to need a bigger cannon
January 19th, 2024 at 8:55 PM ^
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
January 19th, 2024 at 8:56 PM ^
I'm still curious about their offense because there's still not an OLine or reliable QB there. They're creating Iowa on steroids
January 19th, 2024 at 9:00 PM ^
Will Howard will never be confused with CJ Stroud or Justin Fields, but Will Horward>>>than any Iowa QB (including Cade).
January 19th, 2024 at 10:21 PM ^
The OL is a HUGE concern for me. As long as the QB can hand off to Judkins and Henderson, they’ll be fine. But god if we have a OL showing like the Mizzou game, we might not be .500 (they’ll get it figured out).
January 19th, 2024 at 10:42 PM ^
Multiple losses is quite a bit of a stretch there
Hey - I upvoted this and then you pull a 180 on me with this:
But god if we have a OL showing like the Mizzou game, we might not be .500
Cmon man! You’re spinning around more than the OSO defense looking for The Don in Columbus!
January 20th, 2024 at 12:03 AM ^
they’ll get it figured out
Did they get a new OL coach?
I really don't think that they can just depend on handing it off to Judkins and Henderson. First of all, you guys have recruited OL that are specifically built for the passing game. Second, the OL coaching appears highly suspect. Third, the playbook and play calling do not seem conducive to a run-first team. Bill O'Brien is a QB guy, Day is a QB guy, and Hartline is a WR guy.
The way Michigan has succeed in the run game was by prioritizing it for years. We recruited for it, our coaches specialize in it, our passing game works as constraint plays, and we dedicate a ton of time installing all sorts of run plays teams don't see much anymore.
Having said that, I'm sure you'll be above .500. I would be surprised if you run the table and even more surprised if you win more than two playoff games. I think, like with the last several years, your success is wholly dependent on the passing game.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:57 PM ^
so is inducement allowed or what?
January 19th, 2024 at 9:30 PM ^
For real. Inducement / tampering / whatever ... I would like to know how the fuck they get so many highly ranked players. (They aren't all WR, by the way.)
January 20th, 2024 at 9:00 AM ^
They get so many because Texas and OSU are the biggest tamperers in the country but the NCAA doesn't care. Everyone tampers but those 2 programs specifically are shameless and constant about it.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:57 PM ^
Sure would be nice to land some of these transfers instead of not knowing who our HC will be. Either way we’re national champions!
January 19th, 2024 at 8:58 PM ^
aren't they already loaded at this position perpetually. good pick up nonetheless. pay the man.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:08 PM ^
Ohio State actually just fired their Safeties coach Perry Eliano primarily due to his reputation as a poor recruiter. He's been an above-average on-field coach, but he has gone 2 full recruiting cycles without bringing in any of his top recruiting targets.
This past class was particularly rough because Ohio State looked to be on the inside track with KJ Bolden (5*, #1 S, #14 OVR) - KJ is Eliano's cousin's son, and the Bolden family even made several comments about being very eager/comfortable with KJ being coached by "family." But in the end Eliano fumbled the recruitment, and Bolden ended up at UGA.
Right now, there's only 1 underclassman (S Malik Hartford) that seems poised/ready to start if called upon. So the room under Eliano was trending to become really thin, really fast... Hence his firing.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:58 PM ^
I wonder what the top level meetings were like after their season ended. They must have literally just agreed to spend as much money as they possibly can to get every player possible. It’s mercenary U.
If we beat them next year it will be absolutely hilarious
January 20th, 2024 at 9:22 AM ^
Yes, if. I know acting tough guy on the internet is cool and all, but that will be a very difficult game and I think there is less than a 100% chance we win it.
January 19th, 2024 at 10:37 PM ^
The defense next year …… ooof. Could be historic , and that’s saying something with this year indane D
January 19th, 2024 at 8:59 PM ^
A big get for them given I thought safety was one of the weakness on their defense.
They are definitely in spend whatever it takes mode in terms of NIL. Three straight losses to Michigan will do that.
It’s hard to know how much NIL is a factor in terms of Downs coming or so many of their guys coming back. Or how much money guys are getting paid in terms of dollar amounts. But it’s pretty clearly a big factor.
They’ll definitely be a tough out this year though. I’m just not at all sold on Will Howard or that offensive line (let alone Bill O’Brien as the new OC).
Given all the stops they are pulling out for next season it’d be incredible to see their response if we are able to beat them again.
January 19th, 2024 at 8:59 PM ^
This works out in our favor, we can beat all these guys again next year at once instead of taking a whole season to do it.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:00 PM ^
Yawn. They’ve had “more talent” the last three years and we all saw what that got them. They still have Coach 3B.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:07 PM ^
Two differences compared to previous years in my opinion:
1. They had a bunch of guys come back that really shouldn't have and I think the driving force is the chip on the shoulder over losing to Michigan 3 straight years.
2. They've done a great job in the portal, similar to Michigan last year.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:12 PM ^
Also Michigan will be worse, especially without Harbaugh.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:21 PM ^
Are you sure Harbaugh is gone? I'm not..
January 19th, 2024 at 9:18 PM ^
ribble, how do you have so many points in 3 months? I know I only started posting recently (ie last few years), but I'm under that after lots of engagement. Yes, I'm being a points guy right now lol
January 19th, 2024 at 9:30 PM ^
Came in hot during the Stalions fiasco haha.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:21 PM ^
Next year will be the ultimate test to see the extent that culture can overpower talent. OSU is adding a lot of talent, but they had plenty of talent before. To me, their issue is still gameday coaching, a lack of player development, and pillowy soft lines.
Michigan didn't add 5 star after 5 star player to their team to fill huge gaps, they picked their spots with veteran players who could contribute in more ways than just on-field production. A team of mercenaries like OSU is arguably MORE susceptible to fold when punched in the mouth than previous teams. What allegiance does Judkins or Howard have? What never-ending desire to beat Michigan does Caleb Downs have? It remains to be seen. They will be talented like always, and we will take a step back from the apex, but the real work OSU has to do to fix their program is yet to be done
January 19th, 2024 at 9:57 PM ^
1.IMO, There's a chip on your shoulder or not. It's not like after the past two years they didn't already have a chip going into this year's game.
2.Merely bringing in talent does not equal a great job in the portal. Michigan's elite portal management has been about bringing in players who are all great teammates, leaders, and talented.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:01 PM ^
Hopefully their purchases go the aTm route.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:02 PM ^
Hahaha. Leaving it all on the line i see
buying the best team he can.
doesn’t matter anymore. It will never be the same for them and it’s hilarious
January 20th, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^
Could be even more devastating if they don’t run the table. If you stockpile all of that talent and still can’t get over the hump what does that say about your program? Would love to see them come up less than the sum of their parts and get thrown into a crisis of confidence.
January 19th, 2024 at 9:04 PM ^
This just makes it that much sweeter when we beat them. They are going All In on this season. If Day doesn’t get it done, he never will.
January 20th, 2024 at 2:41 AM ^
They will absolutely melt down if they lose to us again.
January 20th, 2024 at 2:41 AM ^
They will absolutely melt down if they lose to us again.