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The Stupidest Season In The Stupidest Sport Comment Count

Brian November 6th, 2023 at 2:49 PM

11/4/2023 – Michigan 41, Purdue 13 – 9-0, 6-0 Big Ten

It is a measure of how spoiled Michigan fans are that when their quarterback completes two-thirds of his passes for 9.1 yards an attempt—with some drops in there—everyone is perturbed about What Happened To JJ McCarthy. In a larger sense, nothing at all, get a grip. In a smaller, paranoid sense: well, yeah. Purdue's defensive approach did pose some questions to a Michigan offense that was dead-set on not providing answers after going up 17-0 before the PSU-MD-OSU gauntlet to end the regular season.

The number one thing Purdue did was rush a bunch of DTs. The third guy in the middle rarely did anything directly, but he eliminated the possibility of those "look for work" blocks you see when an interior OL doesn't have anyone to block and decides to hog-wallop someone engaged with one of his buddies. Also because he was rarely getting any rush, Purdue did a much better job than anyone else on the schedule at keeping McCarthy in the pocket.

The results alternated between downs where Michigan got the man-to-man they expected and McCarthy could just throw it to Roman Wilson for 20 yards and ones where Purdue popped into a zone. On those snaps McCarthy hesitated, and then his Let's Break The Pocket And Fire All The Missiles timer went off. He'd move to do that, find that the doors were closed, and then fire inaccurate balls because his feet weren't in the right place. He was caught between states.

This is to say that a big chunk of the problems that caused JJ McCarthy to only complete two-thirds of his passes for 9.1 yards an attempt are fixable, and will probably be fixed.

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The rest of the game went like they all have so far: the defense gives up approximately nothing. There are a couple mistakes that set the opponent up for their desultory first-half score, and then the opponent gets to have a touchdown after the stadium has emptied out. The only unusual things were a couple of fourth-quarter drives for the starting offense, possibly because they haven't played a full four quarters all year and Michigan wanted them to get that under their belt before Penn State, and the relative wobbliness of McCarthy.

Afterwards, Ryan Walters was mad. Was he mad that Connor Stalions had somehow robbed him of victory? Was he mad that Illinois didn't win last year? I don't know. Everyone seems absolutely furious about Stalions going overboard on an activity that is everyday, commonplace, and Walters personally participated in.

Everyone is just as mad as they can be, except Michigan fans. That last outpost of sanity is set to fall in a couple days if and when the Big Ten levies an unprecedented suspension to the head coach of a team that would have won every game they've played this year by multiple scores if Connor Stalions happened to be a massive Colorado School of Mines fan instead of Michigan. At this point, Michigan will join the frothing masses. The already frothed will be furious that Michigan's players are still allowed to compete for a championship. They will fulminate about how desperately unfair it all is, and Michigan fans will fulminate about the same thing.

All of this because of the idea that Michigan has somehow ruined the sport because one guy got a marginal advantage in a part of the sport that can easily be defeated by writing things down on a piece of paper and sticking it on your wrist. This is going to go down as the stupidest moral panic in the history of the sport.

We are headed for the biggest Die Mad of all time. Nothing can stop it. The only question is who will in fact be Dying Mad. The stakes have never been higher, or dumber.

AWARDS

Known Friends and Trusted Agents Of The Week

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#1T Michael Barrett, Braiden McGregor, Jaylen Harrell, Derrick Moore, and Josiah Stewart. Michigan's rotate ALL THE GUYs approach on defense has made it difficult for anyone on the defense to dislodge offensive players, particularly JJ McCarthy from the top spot. And, yeah, the highest number of pass rush snaps any individual defender got in this game: 17. But Michigan collected 20 pressures on 30 dropbacks, so I'm sticking all these guys in at the top. Three points each. McGregor and Harrell get bonus points for combining on a third and short stop.

#2 Roman Wilson. Nine catches on ten targets, and while the tenth was a low but catchable ball the important thing was that no Purdue defensive back was able to even make it a contest. Zero of his targets were contested.

#3 Will Johnson. Interception, a couple more PBUs, ceded three yards a target per PFF. More discussion below.

Honorable mention: Well okay yes JJ McCarthy completed two-thirds of his passes for 9.1 yards per attempt. Colston Loveland had a beautiful back-shoulder catch and nearly brought in a circus catch; Semaj Morgan is fast. Rod Moore had an endzone PBU and a second PBU that was less salutary.

KFaTAotW Standings.

(points: #1: 8, #2: 5, #3: 3, HMs one each. Ties result in somewhat arbitrary assignments.)

44: JJ McCarthy (#1 ECU, #1 UNLV, #2 Rutgers, HM Nebraska, #2 Minn, #1 IU, #1 MSU, HM PUR)
23: Kris Jenkins (HM ECU, T2 UNLV, #1 BGSU, HM Rutgers, #1 Neb, HM MSU)
15: Mason Graham (HM ECU, T2 UNLV, #1 Minn, HM IU, HM MSU)
14: Roman Wilson (T2 ECU, HM UNLV, HM BGSU, #3 Nebraska, #2 PUR)
13: Mike Sainristil (T3 ECU, HM BGSU, #1 Rutgers, HM IU, HM MSU)
11: Mike Barrett (HM UNLV, T3 Rutgers, #2 IU, T1 PUR)
10: Blake Corum (HM ECU, HM UNLV, #2 BGSU, HM Rutgers, HM Neb, HM IU), AJ Barner (HM BGSU, HM Neb, HM Minn, T3 IU, T2 MSU), Braiden McGregor(T3 UNLV, #2 Nebraska, T1 PUR)
9: Colston Loveland (HM Rutgers, T3 IU, T2 MSU, HM PUR)
7: Cornelius Johnson (T2 ECU, HM UNLV, HM BGSU, HM Minn), Derrick Moore (T3 UNLV, HM Neb, HM MSU, T1 PUR)
6: Kenneth Grant (T3 ECU, T2 UNLV), Junior Colson (#3 BGSU, T3 Rutgers, HM MSU), Jaylen Harrell (HM UNLV, HM BGSU, HM IU, T1 PUR), 3: Will Johnson(#3 Minn, #3 PUR)
4: Ernest Hausmann (T3 ECU, T3 Rutgers), Max Bredeson (HM Rutgers, HM Neb, T3 IU), Josiah Stewart (HM Minn, T1 PUR)
2:  Josh Wallace (T3 ECU), Semaj Morgan (HM Rutgers, HM PUR)
1: Tommy Doman (HM ECU), Donovan Edwards (HM ECU), Tyler Morris (HM UNLV), Quinten Johnson (HM Rutgers), Kalel Mullings (HM Minn), The Offensive Line (HM Minn), Keon Sabb (HM Minn), Ben Hall (HM IU), Rod Moore (HM PUR)

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Donovan Edwards gets one on one with a linebacker, signaling that Ryan Walters's stuff isn't going to work in this one.

Honorable mention: The ease with which Michigan converted their goal to go opportunities. Semaj Morgan puts the game to bed with the world's most wide open jet sweep. McCarthy nails a back shoulder to Loveland. Will Johnson gets a pick somewhat reminiscent of his first against Purdue last year.

imageMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK

Purdue stuffs a fourth and one near the end of the first half. This was not the first gaffe in the period of gaffes but it was the one that established it was going to be an annoying quarter and a half.

Honorable mention: Punt hits a gunner, leading to a turnover and a Purdue field goal. DJ Waller gives up a long reception. Purdue scores with 30 seconds left, robbing Michigan of the cover and giving a thousand screeching Ohio State fans on twitter the ability to say THEY DIDN'T COVER.

NICK SAMAC PATHETIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEKsamac_thumb1

Ryan Walters gives Jim Harbaugh the drive-by handshake because he's just so mad that Michigan may or may not have had their signals. Expect news to break this week about Walters; there's a reason Michigan was using wristbands in this game.

Dishonorable mention: N/A

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OFFENSE

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A good plan. Michigan came out in this game with an idea of what Walters wanted to do and an excellent plan to attack it. There's a lot of frustration with the run game after this, which we'll get into, but to my eye Michigan knew that Purdue was going to be in a bunch of exploitable man-to-man on third and medium so wasting downs was not really a problem. The yo-yo stuff where a guy runs into the flat is one thing but this early conversion is a more subtle version of the above:

That late motion completely bones the defense and the box safety ends up executing a 360. Michigan's first TD was set up by another yo-yo:

That lateral edge is always going to be there if you get man-to-man.

Purdue adapted to this at halftime, dropping into zones on third and medium. On Michigan's first drive of the second half McCarthy got the worst of all worlds when Purdue dropped eight and Scourton got blocked by AJ Barner and then got an ineffectual chip from Edwards. That is eight guys covering three routes and the two guys you left in—far worse pass blockers than anyone on the OL—trying to deal with an NFL DE. That one goes in the ol' RPS column.

An oddity. PFF's passing grade for McCarthy in this game? 84.3. That is his second-best grade in a Big Ten game behind the 90.9 from MSU. They had him with 5 big time throws and charged the WRs with 3 drops.

Why just once? The Michigan universe was Leonard DiCaprio Pointing At Television when Purdue belatedly motioned out a linebacker wearing 47 to cover Donovan Edwards 1 on 1:

Hooray touchdown, effectively, but I am a person who predicted that Edwards would get 100 yards receiving in this game and he did not and I am cross. I'm not sure Edwards split wide again in this game.

 

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Catch the ball? This week's UFR is going to have more passes in the difficult catch zones than any other McCarthy start, and probably by some distance. I'm going to have to make some CA/MA distinctions, but I think most of them are going to land on CA. Barner had a ball hit his arm, and there was a high ball to Johnson that went through his hands and is still in must-catch territory.

This one is going in the other bin, though:

Not everything from McCarthy was because he reset his feet. This is a rhythm throw that he just missed. Loveland actually has the circus catch made until the corner dislodges the ball.

The ground game. Frustrating day attempting to run the ball, and one that can be chalked up to a few different things. One is that by the end of the first quarter Michigan had all the points they needed to win the game so there was no reason to put anything extra on tape or risk getting McCarthy hit. Purdue was +1 in the box all game and focused so intently on stopping the interior run that when Michigan did pop a constraint play it was easy money. Both the Johnson end around and Morgan jet sweep saw the playside end roar to the interior. Morgan's was so vastly wide open that as soon as he got the ball the only question was whether he'd beat the free safety with a 20-yard head start. Answer: yes.

If Michigan had wanted to run McCarthy they would have trashed the run defense because that free safety is nowhere near the play and now you're even in the box on every snap. See: DJ Durkin vs JT Barrett.

Why? Aaaargh. The fourth and one had a few different things go wrong. One is that Darrius Clemons was asked to block Kydran Jenkins, a 260 pound defensive end. Two is that Karsen Barnhart gets slanted under. Three: is it possible that Mullings screwed this up?

This is tackle over, so it makes some sense to deploy like this if Mullings is supposed to bounce outside of Barnhart. He just runs it like it's a dive. Michigan had already converted one dive earlier in the game so this would be a good spot to change it up.

I still loathe putting Clemons in this spot when you have a perfectly good Trente Jones sitting on the bench.

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Semaj-date. 13 snaps for Jukebox, and three targets. he had a downfield catch and run, further distancing Morgan from gadget guys past. Also the above touchdown on which Morgan's outrageous speed really popped. He beat a safety at 20 yards to the corner of the endzone. Blackledge criticized the safety's angle, but if the guy takes a deeper one he's tackling Morgan in the endzone.

Henderson test: passed. Henderson gave up a sack but was otherwise solid against DEs that are amongst the best in the country. He wasn't outstanding—PFF graded him out at 60 and charged him with a couple other hurries—but he was good enough. With this team you just have to not have a big hole, and pass pro against big time DEs was about the last thing to test.

DEFENSE

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Secondary: so back. One thing I appreciated about this game is that Purdue tried to run a real offense. That was not good for their chances of winning the game but it did allow us to have opinions about members of the Michigan secondary for about the first time all year. We had events from both Rod Moore and Will Johnson. Johnson's INT was helped by the pressure Jaylen Harrell got but the coverage was such that IMO zero throws are cobbling out a completion:

Johnson also jumped a slant and forced an incompletion by grabbing the WR as the ball arrived (it's hard to tell; ball did get deflected by the WR) and was able to break up a desperation heave from Card that one of his WRs turned into an improvised comeback route.  He would have had a second interception if not for Rod Moore getting a finger on the ball just before it got to him.

Moore, meanwhile, had a PBU on a corner route in the endzone that looked like vintage Rod Moore. He was less involved than Johnson—PFF has Johnson for eight targets and Moore, somehow, with two PBUs and no targets—but that's life as a good safety. I'd say both guys are all the way back after injury and rust early in the season.

The UMass kid. It's about to be crunch time for Josh Wallace, who has fended off all competitors and locked down the #2 corner slot. I'm not sure how we feel about this, but so far so good: surrounded by more talent and asked to do less by himself his PFF grade has significantly jumped in his final season. He's given up just 7 completions on 20 targets and is the PFF's #6 cover CB in the Big Ten. (Johnson is #3, Sainristil is #12).

I know the next statement will be "ain't played nobody," but it's the Big Ten: almost nobody's played anybody when it comes to pass coverage. I think he'll be fine.

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Sacks: not a very descriptive stat. Michigan had one sack in this game, and that's one of the worst misrepresentations of pressure applied I can remember. Card was under siege on approximately every dropback:

That's not a sack. It is a punt.

Per PFF, Michigan had 20 pressures on 30 Purdue dropbacks. 17 of those were mere hurries, but if you can't set your feet and throw it cleanly on two-thirds of your attempts you're gonna die.

Send him. FWIW, Barrett led Michigan with five pressures in this game. He rushed nine times. This was not Michigan scheming him up free, either: PFF has his win rate at 62.5, which means all five of his pressures came through a blocker. (I guess he was unblocked but didn't get a pressure on the other one?) Colson got two pressures but has a win rate of 0%, because he never drew a blocker. On the season, Barrett has 13 pressures on 31 rushes and a 43% win rate. That win rate is 14 points higher than the #2 guy nationally. His pass-rush grade is second nationally among LBs.

I think we're going to see Barrett sent while DEs drop out quite a bit down the stretch.

Stretch again. Michigan ceded some decent chunks to Mockobee and Tracy, mostly on stretch. The two backs combined for 99 yards on 24 carries, which isn't exactly bad but neither is it as dominant as we've come to expect. Michigan started foiling this by blitzing Sainristil on the playside, which is a nice changeup; ideally Michigan would be better at defending this straight up. This is an artifact of Michigan's DTs being so quick into the backfield. On the first one Jenkins went straight upfield and got reached.

One exception to the secondary so back part. DJ Waller's controller disconnected on the Purdue offensive play:

This is fine, because DJ Waller isn't going to be playing against Penn State and Ohio State. At least he's not going to be playing at the beginning of the second quarter. Amorion Walker also got first-half snaps,

Okay. Now is the time? Michigan had 60 defensive snaps in this game. Graham had 31. Jenkins had 17(!?!). Those guys are the #3 and #9 DTs in the Power 5, per PFF's reckoning. Are they going to get the majority of the snaps against Penn State? I guess I should point out that Kenneth Grant and Cam Goode(also ?!?!) are tied for 17th, so the dropoff is not large.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Ah, well, that's why. Jake Thaw had seemingly lost the punt return job to Tyler Morris and then:

Morris neither aggressively comes up to field the punt, which he could, nor aggressively starts yelling whatever FIRE or POISON thing Michigan has to alert gunners to get out of the way. Thaw re-emerged and even had a nice return.

In the stands I was all like "Shaq meme dot jpg, amirite?" and everyone around me subtly edged away. But now we're on the internet, so I can do it.

shaq apology

I have done it.

Ah, routine field goals. Lovely. Michigan's been scoring so many touchdowns that James Turner's ability to hit in the 30-45 yard range has not been tested in a month.

WTF, routine field goals. Purdue! You are not allowed to go 3/10 on the season and 2/2 against Michigan.

The kick return decision. Alex pointed this out on Twitter: Michigan has three more yards and seven more seconds if Morgan does not attempt to return the kickoff at the end of the first half. That means they have another play to improve their look at what would have been a 57-yard field goal. Instead they tried a Hail Mary that didn't come off. In a late clock situation it's better to take the free yards instead of using up a play at a very low chance at a meaningful return.

Free Doman. Dave wanted Tommy Doman to get a shot at a sixty-yarder instead of the Hail Mary and he sold me. Free Tommy.

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Got away with one? I did look like Michigan should have been called for running into the kicker on the above punt, which would have given Purdue a first down. On the other hand, Doman got hit in the gobblers and that was only adjudged a running into the kicker when it seemed clear that should be roughing. You can't get blasted in the danger zone and not take contact to your plant leg.

MISCELLANEOUS

Jesus Christ, Patrick. PATRICK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

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OUR DOOM IS UPON US.

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Harbaugh explains to Not Kyle [Barron]

Mars 2.0. I am far from the first person to suggest this but the holding call on Blake Corum in this game takes its place next to Karan Higdon vs Northwestern in the annals of all-time insane penalties levied against Michigan:

I still think the Higdon penalty tops this because at least this is Corum attempting to block a guy. Higdon was literally tackled after the quarterback kept the ball. The only thing that makes me waver is apparently the rest of the officiating crew was desperately attempting to talk Kyle out of the call but he insisted:

“Yeah, different officials saw it different ways, and the official that made the call stuck with it,” Harbaugh said. “They told us they would look at it after the game and get back to us.

“I've never seen that play in football. I've never seen a guy launch Superman style over the line of scrimmage on a pass play. And he was really coming down — he was on a downward angle to Blake.

“I agree with the ones that didn't think it was holding penalty.”

Goddammit, Kyle.

HERE

We have not yet fielded a Best and Worst, but bronxblue did one on Signs a few days ago:

Colin/Manuel Excel is one of the better X’s and O’s guys on X/Twitter in my experience, and he highlighted one of the silver linings around this whole sign stealing scandal: it’s helped to identify who understands how football teams are run today versus those who don’t.

I’ll get into the specific reporters/journalists who have fully exposed themselves as basically access merchant and stenographers, but what really surprised me especially early on when this scandal broke was how many people were seemingly caught off-guard by the notion that “sign stealing” was, in fact, legal and quite common in football.  Now, some coaches and individuals have argued that scouting future opponents in person is a bridge too far, and while others have argued that’s basically just “scouting” and people arguing about the mechanism by which this information is gleaned are missing the forest for the trees.  But to virtually every person connected to football from high school and college, the idea that one side is trying to decode what is the next play coming up is just part of the game, like studying the color of a player’s knuckles to determine if he’s rushing or not* or an offensive lineman’s spacing relative to his teammates.  It’s all about eking out the tiniest bit of advantage possible against your opponent.

And yet, to read rival fans’ responses to these revelations you’d believe this was unique to Michigan and had sullied the good name of collegiate football.  It had seemingly never crossed their minds that the reason teams throw up nonsensical arrays of images or have multiple backup QBs flopping around during games is to hide what plays they’re calling in because they’re concerned the other side might deduce what they are.  Or the simple fact that you can’t claim proprietary knowledge of your playcalls when you’re broadcasting them in front of 100k people a week.  Again, we can argue about whether or not such advanced scouting by Stalions exceeds the rules as written but it was sort of crazy to see people somehow read the word “steal” and not just mentally replace it with “recognize” or “pay attention at all during a game”.

State of our Open Threads:

I keep mentioning it in passing, but participation has changed in these threads over the years. Rule changes, home versus away, times, even the schedule itself change how everyone uses them, but they are still used. Indeed, last night, we ended up with the second largest thread we've had all season at 1,855 posts (as of the clock hitting zero, which is went the count ceases in this study). We also hit our season high in fucks given at 158, a tribute to a slightly wobbly JJ and three quarters spent slowly trying to figure out that Purdue was in Cover 1 almost the entire time. In fact, speaking of JJ, we also hit a season high for mentions of his play at 215 times (this covers both positive mentions as well as more neutral or negative observations), so the spotlight, in part, was definitely on him in that thread, and rightly so considering what is coming this month for us.

The trend this year is actually very interesting - in the past, fucks and shits given would more or less stay elevated through the conference schedule, and while that has happened here to some extent, it has only begun to occur in the last two games.

Iowatch!

RB Receptions are Moneyball, Dammit

Iowa threw two passes to their RBs…for negative 5 yards. Thankfully, fullbacks exist, so their 15-yard pass to the fullback increments this graph by 10 yards. Not even 100 total Moneyball yards in WEEK 10! Ready for a keyboard mash? Djklfdsakjlfdshjklg. That doesn’t do it justice. Fsiewklnjdfsnlmfds. Still not enough.

Comments

schizontastic

November 6th, 2023 at 3:17 PM ^

Someone less lazy than me please make a gif of the "Harbaugh pantomiming the Corum 'hold' to the ref" episode. Harbaugh really put some of his Stanislavski method acting chops into his facial expression.

Colt Burgess

November 6th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^

I'm so tired of people saying,"They were stealing signs; they were cheating!" They're either stupid, or they've been whipped into a frenzy by Mike Valenti types. Then again, those two reasons aren't mutually exclusive. We're obviously dealing with people who choose ignorance and hate over reason. Perhaps someday there will be a documentary wherein some of the actors come clean about the whole thing.

MGolem

November 6th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^

I have said this in other threads but I think some of what looked off with McCarthy was he was simply throwing a lot of early passes too hard. Its possible he was juiced up to prove all the haters wrong, I don't know, but he was really ripping some of the throws that didn't call for it. He got away from that as the game went along and things picked up. 

EGD

November 6th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^

That what it seemed like to me. He was throwing the ball way too hard, seemingly in anger.

I am also convinced that's why Harbaugh went for the first down deep in his own territory on that one fourth down play: I think he just momentarily lost all respect for the opponent and was trying to put up 100 points. And personally, I was right there with both of them.

At some point in the game I think they realized, "hey, we need to just compartmentalize our anger and just execute on the field," and things were fine again. Good thing it was just Purdue this week because that kind of approach might have caused some real problems against a quality opponent.

CompleteLunacy

November 6th, 2023 at 3:45 PM ^

I'm actually glad they went through that. because it's the sort of thing that could spiral when playing somebody like PSU. I get that they're angry and want to take it out on the opponent...but if you don't channel it properly with focus, you risk losing your composure and letting it become the thing that ensures your defeat (when playing somebody that actually had a chance in hell of competing with you lol)

EGD

November 6th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^

I liked the call too and was very surprised when M didn’t convert the first down. Still, if there was no sign controversy I think M would have punted there. M was up 17 and Purdue wasn’t getting anything against M’s defense, so why risk giving them a chance to get back into the game with a stop and a short field opportunity? We’ll never really know but to me it felt like Harbaugh never even considered the possibility of being stopped in that moment.

goblu330

November 6th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^

While this is post is framed in kind of a humorous way, it has touched on something very unfortunate that is coming out of this.  Starting 2.5 weeks ago, this entire season became much less fun, for everybody.  Not just Michigan.  Does any college football fan want to see College Gameday go live to a "very serious looking reporter" who breaks down all of this like the Kennedy Assassination? 

What's worse is that people who know this did not make a damn bit of difference are acting purposely obtuse about it.  Why?  What does Matt Ruhle or Ryan Walters get from dipping their toes into this?  They are rebuilds and this literally does not impact them, at all.

Sports has surprisingly been able to stay relatively immune from the plague of cynicism in the world right but I'm afraid that is no more as of this "scandal."  College football is now suddenly very serious too and it sucks.

JBLPSYCHED

November 6th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^

I think that you're onto something with your comment. As a retired guy who loves Michigan football, I consume way more than my share of college football podcasts and other media offerings. I have my favorites but at some point they're all the same (MGoBlog properties excepted, of course): In It For Clicks.

This isn't news, of course, but when I was listening to the Yahoo podcast this morning Dan Wetzel explicitly said how much they love the drama of the SignGate story because it's what people seem to be interested in. After one of the better game weekends of the season they spent 20+ minutes at the top of their pod talking about SignGate and what the B1G should do (or not)!?!

The truth, as Joel Klatt said on his most recent pod, is that the process needs to play out the right way and that takes time. Sort of no way to have that happen during the current season since Michigan gets time to review the evidence and respond, but the angry mob (including many fans, apparently) want their pound of flesh now.

As you said, the world is plenty serious enough at the moment with more crises and worry than any of us want or need; adding Connor Stallions to the mix benefits nobody but the algorithm feeders.

M-Dog

November 6th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^

Nah, people who are not us are having a great time with this story. It's awesome and interesting and fun for them.  It even has its own Bond villain with the Hollywood name of Connor Stalions.  

There are three types of people that react to this story:

1) Michigan fans, who are mad as hell.

2) Rival fans, who don't actually care about it (because they do this stuff too), but hope to use it to take down Michigan.

3) Neutral fans, who are enjoying the hell out of it: https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1720996554285170708, and believe that it adds to the batshit crazy legacy of college football like poisoning trees and imaginary girlfriends.

But all three groups do have one thing in common: Nobody believes that it is an actual issue.

bronxblue

November 6th, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^

Regarding #3, the fact they posted that down 50 to a UNLV team UM smoked has some irony in many ways.  I get the fun in poking at UM but it does sort of suck that there has been more sustained focus on this controversy than the violent hazing incidents at  NW and NMSU this past year, for example, and arguably less than the dozen+ Georgia football players who were caught speeding in a couple of months, including the one that led to the death of a staffer.  I'm all for punishing UM for being dumb if that's the rule but I keep getting updates from the ESPN app about this stupid sign scandal and I don't remember getting close to these many breathless updates about far worse issues.

AlbanyBlue

November 6th, 2023 at 5:19 PM ^

I have a bit of a different angle on this. I know the national media really doesn't like Michigan (even before this **waves hands around** happened), so I don't really watch GameDay or Big Noon Kickoff.

But, overall, I don't have a lot that's going great in my life right now. Up until 3 weeks ago, it was really nice to put on local news or even 97.1 for stretches because I could enjoy some reporting (or in the case of 97.1, gnashing of teeth) about Michigan kicking ass. Since then, it's basically MGoBlog only.

Everyone hates Michigan. We have some sort of air of superiority that I guess is seen as different than that of an Alabama, Georgia, Texas, etc. and a weird head coach that is off-putting to most people. And now, everyone is just jumping for joy and piling on. It didn't happen like this for the Georgia speeding incident(s), and that actually resulted in a death. The news cycle wasn't like this for Tuggin' Tucker or even for the tunnel assault. The news cycle wasn't like this for OSU getting Justin Fields under shady circumstances -- talk about something affecting competitive balance -- or for the UNC academic scandal. 

Nope, but for Michigan, let's just keep cranking on it. We'll show them -- how dare they, what, ask for players to be compensated? Enrich player experiences with overseas team trips? Focus on expanding satellite camps to give more players a chance to play D1 ball? Oh, that's right, our coach doesn't play well with others...ok, nuke the fucking program. Right.

Nope, we have the audacity to actually kick OSU's ass now, and that, apparently, just cannot be allowed to stand. For the Big Ten, it doesn't matter that OSU perhaps hacked computers, shared video and signs with other teams, and hired Magnum PI to "get" Michigan. Nope, don't care, it's Jim we gotta get......

But the worst of it is that something that should be a positive for me isn't any fun right now, and that blows.

 

EGD

November 6th, 2023 at 3:24 PM ^

I was thinking the other day that about the one other thing I can remember quite like this "signgate" nonsense was the whole "Bothered About Dungeons & Dragons" thing, in which seemingly the entire world outside of the small and disconnected community of RPG enthusiasts was convinced that playing D&D was tantamount to devil worship and a direct path to criminal conduct and suicidal ideation. 

 

EGD

November 6th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^

Well, I'm not saying the two situations were exactly, 100% alike. But some striking similarities. Like, as you say, I think the people like Patricia Pulling and others propagating the whole "D&D will melt your brain" myth were true believers--but did the talk-show hosts and TV execs who paraded these people in front of studio audiences to warn the nation's parents about Gary Gygax and the evils of the d20 really believe any of that? Probably they had no basis to even form an intelligent opinion, and didn't really care--but it just a sensational story that drew ratings and pleased 99% (or more) of their audiences at the expense of the other 1%. And then the echo-chamber effect would make it seem like a well-established scientific fact that yes, in deed, playing D&D would actually cause the reconstituted corporeal form of Azmodeus to appear in your child's bedroom and claim his worldly soul.

I haven't seen the Black Mirror show you reference but perhaps I should check that out.

mGrowOld

November 6th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^

You clearly dont live in Ohio if you think they "dont believe it".  The fanbase down here finally has an explanation for why their beloved Buckeyes have gotten hammered these past two years and they're running hard with it.  Virtually everyone in the media is beating that drum on an hourly basis and if you dont think their fans are loving it you're wrong.  Michigan cheated which is why OSU lost has become accepted fact which is why they are pushing so hard for immediate punishment.

I think they're also pre-building their rationale for what's coming on November 25th.  I've already started to read how difficult changing signs are and that many valuable hours have to be spent on this instead of their normal practice.  So to them, the upcoming loss, like the ones these past two years, has an explanation.

One last thing.  If the events of the past two weeks have shown us anything it's the depth of jealousy and envy the rest of the conference has for us.   That's clear as day.

RockinLoud

November 6th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^

 I've already started to read how difficult changing signs are and that many valuable hours have to be spent on this instead of their normal practice. 

This is hilarious, especially since TCU apparently changed all of theirs and even left the old one's in as dummy signals in a matter of weeks for the CFP. But no, too hard for OSU to accomplish over the course of a year.

J. Redux

November 6th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^

Huh.  Must have missed that one.

No interest in multi-player D&D but I'm really enjoying Baldur's Gate III.  It does seem to have veered a little bit too heavily into the actual D&D mechanics for my taste -- I don't remember actually having to roll a saving throw in I & II -- it all happened behind the scenes.

meeashagin

November 6th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^

I'm all for giving Mullings some between the tackle carries but Blake Corum losing his short yardage runs hopefully stops this week. Last year vs Maryland, Iowa, Corum broke off several long TD runs on 4th/3rd short and I'm sure there were more games too.

I was under the impression we were saving him early in the year. I say we feed him now, over n over. This is why he came back. Plus he's so quick to the line of scrimmage on those short yardage that he's almost automatic if a yard or under.

Use Edwards split out/screens/go routes.

bronxblue

November 6th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^

I was out this weekend with family so no B&W but honestly, just copy-paste every other game and that's what happened here. 

Brian said it a week ago but approximately 11/14ths of this conference should shut the hell up as it pertains to how things are done here because the conference had to go out and poach USC, UCLA, UW, and Oregon to make any non-UM/OSU/PSU game semi-interesting.  Purdue won 8 games last year and while a couple of guys left who were important Walters somehow turning this into a worse outfit than NW coming off a 1-win season and losing their HC just before the year because he ignored/encouraged a decade-long sexual assault and hazing culture is coaching malpractice.  

I remain unworried about the running game until we see them actually give a shit against an opponent within spitting distance of them.  UM's coaches are smart enough to know how to combat 10 defenders within 7 yards of the LOS and you saw it with the Morgan play.  But they aren't going to break out anything interesting to deal with the Boilermakers.  I suspect we'll see a much different performance next week.

CompleteLunacy

November 6th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^

That play completely exposed Purdue's approach as fraudulent coaching. As it was happening I literally guffawed outloud. Literally nobody on Purdue's defense thought it was a possibility until Samaj was already halfway to the endzone. Penn State isn't doing that.

So congrats on sending everybody to stop our interior run game when michigan wasn't really trying to do anything tricky. It worked, I guess. It also resulted in an ass-whooping anyway, just in a different way. 

4th phase

November 6th, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^

Didn't we kind of learn from the Don Brown experiment that an extremem man-to-man approach is never going to work in college? It is borderline impossible to have 11 future NFLers on your defense, so you'll always be exploitable. So it was obvious the pre-snap stuff was going to work. I mean think about it, Brown always dominated when he had the talent advantage and then when he didn't it blew up spectacularly. At Purdue, you are going to have a talent advantage, what, like 4 times a year? The plan here is pretty dubious.

Walters getting a HC contract on the back of Witherspoon is the same as Mel getting an extension from KW3. I'm not convinced he is going to last very long.

On the other hand, playing a 5-2 does let you stuff a lot more runs. So they got that going for them. 

EGD

November 6th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^

Walters might figure if they got Devin Witherspoon at Illinois, they can get guys like that at Purdue. Heck, Jo'Ziah Edmond was committed there for a hot second.

Of course, Walters hasn't been Purdue's coach for very long. So perhaps he doesn't yet understand that Purdue's commits are really just guys Michigan is still evaluating.

 

 

canzior

November 6th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^

Yeah but even Brian and Seth were singing this guy's praises after last year.  By all accounts he may be a good head coach, at some point. My guess is he flames out at Purdue, gets a high profile DC job with a Lincoln Riley type or the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches® before getting another shot where he "succeeds."

BLUEinRockford

November 6th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^

The phantom hold on Hidgon against Northwestern was far worse. The piece of shit ref saw Shea Patterson running Scott free down the field so he threw his flag. The fact that Shea had faked the hand-off to Hidgon and he was tackled by a couple Northwestern players exemplifies the refs intent to change the outcome of the play/game. 

Just another example of anti-Michigan bias by officials.

Honker Burger

November 6th, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^

Dude come on. Yes the hold against Higdon as Klatt put it 'was a flag from Mars.'

It wasn't some anti-Michigan bias, it was just a horrible call. 

We get calls against us and for us. It's obviously easier to remember calls at key points of a game that go against you (2016 OSU 3rd down non-PI calls, and the spot). But give me a break.

lhglrkwg

November 6th, 2023 at 4:14 PM ^

If Michigan had wanted to run McCarthy they would have trashed the run defense because that free safety is nowhere near the play and now you're even in the box on every snap. See: DJ Durkin vs JT Barrett.

Nice to be reminded me this as a Not Smart Football person. I totally forgot JJ didn't even try to run. Michigan usually has good gameplans ready for PSU and OSU. I suspect this was this year's Illinois game - just do the absolute bare minimum to get through the week 

And you pretty much knew this was gonna happen right?

WTF, routine field goals. Purdue! You are not allowed to go 3/10 on the season and 2/2 against Michigan.

Like as soon as we all pointed out that Purdue kickers are terrible I knew theyd have a good game