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Harbaugh Abides. Now What? Comment Count

Seth February 3rd, 2022 at 3:53 PM

In case you got milk-faced last night before the news broke, or took in so much afterwards that you don’t remember, Harbaugh’s meeting with the Minnesota Vikings about their head coaching position did not end, as we all expected, with him taking the job. Adam Schefter broke the news that Harbaugh had radioed home to say he’s coming back to coach Michigan in 2022. Candidate tabs were closed. Goodbye posts were left in the land where the unpublished Hello posts roam.

Harbaugh gave all of his staff the week off before he departed for Minneapolis, so those hoping for news or a quick resolution to all of this are going to be disappointed. I know you all have questions, though, so let’s go over what we can.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THE TWIN CITIES LAST NIGHT?

Host USMNT dominated, and I mean DOMINATED Honduras in their World Cup Qualifier match that ended 3-0 and could easily have been 6-0. The game was played in frigid conditions (-15 wind chill factor) that might get them in hot water with FIFA, but if the Peruvians can schedule matches in an Incan mountain fortr—

I MEAN WITH HARBAUGH AND THE VIKINGS (but go go USA!)

Oh, nobody really knows outside of the room where it happened, and when they went their separate ways everybody’s best interest was to have others believe it was they who ended the talks. The Vikings’ ESPN reporter, whose sources are naturally coming from the front office, quickly put it out there that the franchise was turned off by Harbaugh walking in like it’s a done deal. That report does not jive at all with what Sam Webb reported before the meeting, which is that Harbaugh was preparing for the meeting by drilling on analytics with QB coach Matt Weiss. Given the timing, I interpreted this tweet from Harbaugh’s son as targeted at the ESPN report.

Everyone back home—including here—at least thought there was a better chance than not that Harbaugh was going to be gone this morning. Clearly, as reported everywhere, he told his staff and players that he was going to take the job if offered before he got on the plane. They knew little more than that through the whole process (except Matt Weiss, since he was involved). It wasn’t much of a jump to get from there to “he’s gone.” I figured the Vikings wouldn’t have bothered to meet with such a high-profile person in-person if they weren’t serious. Webb reported that new Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah had Harbaugh 1st on his list, but needed to convince ownership.

But there’s a big jump between “We who know little think you will offer him the job” and “He will be offered the job.” Webb mentioned the ownership thing; I had a reader email me earlier in the week surprised that the Vikings were involved because a Michigan donor who doesn’t like Harbaugh is one of their owners. John U. Bacon had more than one source, and identified the minority owner by name:

That jibes with what Sam wrote yesterday: That the Vikings meeting wasn’t a perfunctory consummation/announcement, but a chance for Adofo-Mensah, Harbaugh, and go-between Matt Weiss to make their case that Harbaugh’s reputation of being difficult to work with was a Trent Baalke thing more than a Harbaugh thing, Stapleton making the case that Harbaugh is a ninny foo-foo with poopy pants, and the Wilfs presiding. I get why a Michigan fan might look at that scenario and think Team Foo-Foo Poopy Pants was outgunned by the new GM, but if long Lions fandom has taught me anything it’s that if an NFC North team’s decision-making and rationality ever find each other, it was by pure dumb luck.

The simplest explanation is that TFFPP weren’t convinced on Harbaugh, while everyone in the search committee could agree on Rams OC Kevin O’Connell, who will be officially named after the Super Bowl. My own pet theory is that the Wilfs hired Adofo-Mensah intending to take their franchise in a Moneyball direction (like the Rams), and were surprised to find themselves sitting opposite the most football guy on the planet. You and I know that fullbacks and sideline emoting is the least part of James Joseph Harbaugh, but how much of that comes across in a sit-down?

That’s hardly the end of plausible scenarios, or factors. The Wilfs and Harbaugh might have simply not hit it off. Or Harbaugh could have taken a closer look at the cap situation in Minnesota, where Kirk Cousins has a hit of $45M for this year, and needed a level of commitment to rebuilding that the front office wasn’t willing to grant him. Right now they’re a bad team without a quarterback, trapped in a long-term deal for an expensive RB facing charges for assaulting his girlfriend, and still need to shed $15 million to get under the cap.

Also, if it hasn’t happened already, we’re probably going to see a report in the near future, originating from our team, that suggests the decision was Harbaugh’s. That too will probably be mostly false, a show for those who want to believe that Harbaugh had his Bo/Texas A&M moment.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

The two most pressing matters are contracts for Harbaugh and his staff, and hiring a defensive coordinator. I’ll go back to writing those soon now that all the head coach possibility tabs are closed. Fare thee well, Harold Goodwin. The “jim harbaugh nfl but for real” site tag still has zero articles in it.

[After THE JUMP: Good coaches, bad information.]

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE COACH WHO WOULD RATHER BE ELSEWHERE?

Clearly, Jim Harbaugh was pursuing his NFL dreams, and they were serious enough that he was willing to take a (sorry, Vikings fans, but any team associated with Kirk Cousins is a) bottom-of-the-barrel opportunity. That creates three problems here, really. In ascending order of how much it matters:

  • The fans want their coach to be all-in.
  • The assistant coaches and players expect the boss to be all-in if they are.
  • Recruits need to know what they’re getting into, not just for 2022 but for 2026.

Addressing each in turn, Michigan fans are quite used to the mental gymnastics of rooting for players who want to be in NFL but play their asses off for Michigan. If Michigan keeps winning like they did in 2021, we’ll convince ourselves this was just like the Bo to A&M thing (in which, if you read the article, Bo was an active player, not merely a prize). Many of us were ready to move on from Harbaugh after the 2-4 season in 2020, whether that was expressed in message board posts, soup emojis, or trying to recruit him to the Lions. Those who stayed in his corner are probably still in it. Those who strayed have no cause to speak. Naturally, many will anyways, but serial whiners can’t be fixed by fixing problems, and the rest can be sated by winning.

The people inside the program are going to need more than that. Those guys were left out of the loop through this whole thing. Most or all of them were rightfully concerned that they’d need to find landing places, and started reaching out to have those conversations. Coaches who should have been trying to reel in last-minute 2022 recruits or make moves with the 2023 class were glumly left to await news, followed by more twisting in the wind. The 2022 recruits already signed were surely fielding calls—everybody now hold your breath for the NCAA to do something about Ryan Day tampering with Will Johnson. Michigan’s administration, including Warde, need to know the guy they’re paying to coach the football team isn’t just updating his resume. Every boss knows what it’s like to have an employee searching for another job.

Beyond the guys in the building are those Michigan wants to convince to come here in 2023, and 2024, and yes, 2025 recruiting is already on their radars even if I refuse to let it touch mine. It was bad enough dealing with rivals telling prospective recruits “Hey man, I was just using LSU/USC for leverage to get paid, but Harbaugh would jump to the Raiders in a minute” when that wasn’t actually true. Now they need more than promises and “turkey jive” comments to make sure it stays that way.

Harbaugh’s weird makeup makes it totally plausible for him to throw himself back into the Michigan job after missing out on his NFL dream. But the thing about weird people is they have to do some extra work to understand how normal people take things. When he touches down in Ann Arbor, he needs one of two things:

  1. A contract that says the NFL can’t have him, or
  2. A succession plan.

WHAT DOES THE CONTRACT LOOK LIKE?

At least five years, and something like a $9 million depreciating buyout. Harbaugh is 58, and every year past 60 his value will naturally begin to diminish. It’s fair to leave open an opportunity down the road, but Michigan would need at least three years in the contract that makes sure if the NFL math changes, that franchise has to want Harbaugh so bad that Michigan can afford to offer NFL money to a top-tier candidate. Given that Harbaugh found, ultimately, zero takers this year it’s probably a given that adding a buyout hurdle to the mix would have nixed his chances of leaving.

The dollar amount doesn’t have to be super high. Someone referenced Ryan Day’s contract, which sounds about right. Mel Tucker and James Franklin extracted silly money from desperate schools by using the suggestion of interest as leverage. Harbaugh thought those contracts were so laughable that he donated his bonus money to Athletic Department employees who got hurt by the 2020 cutback, and timed it so that people like you and me wouldn’t miss the connection. Clearly, he thinks that kind of money is a joke.

What Michigan does need to do is pony up for his staff, who just graduated from “kids trying to save the ship” to “an all-star staff of potential future head coaches.” You won’t be able to keep them all together, but right now there’s blood in the water and it’s time to push the sharks away. Steve Clinkscale deserves a co-DC title. Sherrone Moore got a title bump last year, but they should make sure he’s feeling it financially, and being treated like a crucial part of the program. Ron Bellamy and Mike Hart proved themselves valuable assets with very high potential. Josh Gattis just added a week of people chewing on the idea of him as head coach of Michigan to a resume already well past the level that usually gets some plum head coaching offers. Helow and Weiss just came here last year for Harbaugh, and Weiss is coming out of a week where an NFL team just showed his department is what they value the most. Even Mike Elston, who signed on this winter, needs to know he didn’t just jump onto a ship as the captain was looking to disembark.

Not everyone needs a pay or title bump. They all deserve conversations about how they fit, and to be part of the DC hiring process. When Harbaugh tried to walk out on them, they inherited a little more ownership of what he left behind. Now that he's back, he's going to have to earn back his roster spot like everybody else.

WHAT DOES A SUCCESSION PLAN LOOK LIKE?

If Harbaugh doesn’t want to give up his NFL dreams, he needs an associate head coach. That could well be Josh Gattis, the guy I assumed Harbaugh would anoint as his successor if things went as I expected in the twin cities.

It might be a good idea anyways. Program continuity in college football is something that smart teams realized fairly recently is actually quite paramount. When I build charts about the makeup of Michigan’s team, or attrition, or recruiting, there are always huge outliers around the recent coaching changes. That’s why we saw Marcus Freeman elevated at Notre Dame when Luke Fickell was right there, and why Ohio State locked up their staff and pretended they hadn’t fired Urban Meyer for a year while installing Ryan Day and updating all his drivers.

Pointing at Josh Gattis right now and saying “He’s next,” also extends your ability to hold onto Josh Gattis, whom I remind you was the engineer of last year’s offense and the guy who put together such a receivers room we’re only a little mad about Xavier Worthy. I know there were reports put out there that said Gattis isn’t the internal hire or “didn’t pass vetting.” Let me be clear: it was horseshit.

WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT BAD INFORMATION?

There was certainly a lot of it this round, wasn’t there? Harbaugh to NFL has always been a fount of bad information. In situations like this, there are certain types of people that get sourced, and a reporter should have at least two to run with it, and three to be sure:

  1. The principles, or second-hand from them. People think they can keep secrets, and then they talk, and then those people talk. Depending on how far down the telephone line you are, this kind of information can be enlightening, or completely useless. Knowing where you are in the chain is critical. Knowing the trustworthiness of your source is also critical.
  2. Schembechler Hall. Everybody has sources inside the building, and there are a LOT of people inside the building. Recruiting reporters know the kids and their parents well. Longtime insiders have longtime friends serving in important roles. Michigan’s football program is so large that it’s a virtual extension of Ann Arbor the town, and it’s a small town. Things like injury news, a guy transferring, a conspicuous absence, or information provided to the team get out quickly.
  3. Agents, official or otherwise. Many times there’s something somebody wants you to know because it helps their client or their friend or serves some other purpose. The most common is the coaching agents ginning up interest in their players. Savvy parents will do this for their kids in recruiting. In a coaching fiasco often information is coming from the agents, who cultivate their reporters the way that reporters cultivate their sources. If you want to know why certain insiders always seem to get the scoop, it’s because the agents trade that information for the ability to send messages through the public when they need to.
  4. The donors. One way Michigan likes to reward their biggest supporters is to feed them information that would probably get out through one of the above channels anyways. This is especially true during practice, when the program is well-served to let people know that their young quarterback is killing it, but of course nobody will believe them if they just say it in a presser. They could tip off a reporter themselves, sure, but they can also give that information to someone who’s done well by them, either financially or a like a local coach they want to keep on their side. That information gets out to the insider reports as intended.
  5. Made up. There’s always a Chat Sports who realizes people will take fake information in lieu of good information. There are also sometimes people with an agenda looking to take advantage of some gullible media person.

Often the breakdowns in information come from which information we are getting versus what we’re not. But this time I felt there was a lot more of the last type getting down the pipes. I can get jumping the gun on “The Vikings are a done deal” because I’m sure that’s what people left behind in Schembechler Hall believed. Reports like “Mike Hart will be the internal pick” and “Gattis didn’t pass vetting” probably came from a bad source who needs to be cut off from now on. I, for one, intend to be less trusting about information than I was before this, especially the kind of information I want to believe.

But then someone said J.J. McCarthy drove (or walked?) to Minneapolis and waited outside Vikings HQ to recruit Harbaugh back to Michigan. And as preposterous as that is, I want to believe.

Comments

TrueBlue2003

February 3rd, 2022 at 7:34 PM ^

Wasn't this intended to be a reference to Harbaugh referring to those who negative recruit against him by saying he'll leave for the NFL as "jive turkeys"?  There's a whole segment here about these jive turkeys and who is spreading rumors about Harbaugh on ESPN:

I think Seth just got it backwards.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/18284794

EDIT:  Sorry yes you're referring to the the comment about the report "jiving" with Sam Webb's report.  I read the comments and thought it was about "turkey jives" that I think Seth meant to be jive turkeys.

ScruffyTheJanitor

February 3rd, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^

I hate to say it, but while Kirk Cousins deal is preposterous (and will certainly be restructured this off season), he's not that bad of a Quarterback. Like, he's clearly a starting-caliber QB in the league, and could probably win a super bowl with some luck and a terrific roster. 

The real problem -- and my Colts are in this situation as well -- is that he's over paid and needs a top-ten roster to compete for the superbowl. He's too good to let you take a shot at a top prospect in the draft OR to risk dumping and ending up with a Sam Darnold situation.

CRISPed in the DIAG

February 3rd, 2022 at 4:34 PM ^

Kirk Cousins will not win a Super Bowl. The days of Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer getting their rings are history as we wade into this hyper-offensive era of college/pro football. While Captain Kork is better than Dilfer, he's about as good as Brad Johnson. And those guys needed generational defenses to win games. Currently, defenses are not critical to winning a title.

superstringer

February 3rd, 2022 at 6:09 PM ^

.... went 11 TD / 0 Int during his Super Bowl run.  Played far above the standard deviation, or two, of his regular season career performance.  Antione Boldin was unreal, caught everything in a 28.3 yard radius (including upwards).  Plus, had Ray Lewis, Suggs, etc. on D.

So your point is, you can have an average/below average QB to win the SB ... if he suddenly plays better than Brady, Montana and Manning (the good one) (and not the one Caesar likes most) for three or four games.

potomacduc

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:19 PM ^

Nick Foles won and was MVP just a few years ago. Joe Flacco won less than ten years ago. Peyton Manning was a shadow of himself when he won with the Broncos. 
 

I do believe that in any era you are fighting uphill without a star QB, but I don’t think the door is closed. My guesstimate is that historically HoF QBs win 7/10 Super Bowls. I think that number will be maintained. I think if you have a top 3 defense, top 3 OL, top 10 skill position players and solid starting QB, you can still win. 

FatGuyTouchdown

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:57 PM ^

“Defenses are not critical to winning a title”-

brother the bengals held the chiefs to 3 second half points and the Rams held the Bucs to 3 first half points. Kirk is far better than dilfer and johnson, he’s also far better than Nick foles and Joe Flacco.

 

the point is he’s just regular pretty good and they pay him like he’s great. 

CRISPed in the DIAG

February 4th, 2022 at 12:22 PM ^

Brother, I think you are trying to wishcast football back to the 90's when you had to "run and stop the run" to win. Somewhere in the last 10 years, analytics taught football people that teams don't run to win so much as the run when they are winning. 

Thus, RB's and defenses are less important and QB's are more important. If you all have some secret sauce, you need to get GM and coaching jobs asap.

TrueBlue2003

February 3rd, 2022 at 6:35 PM ^

While Kirk Cousins himself is unlikely to win a Super Bowl, this notion that you need an elite QB more than you used to is false.  Jimmy G just almost made the Super Bowl shortly after making the Super Bowl.

Jared Goff was extremely close to winning a Super Bowl a few years ago.  Nick Foles just won one about 4 years ago.

Defenses are absolutely still as important as they ever were. It's 50% of the equation for a win.  That said, the notion that "defenses win championships" was never really true and isn't more or less true now.

Championships are won by outscoring your opponents and that can be done in a lot of different combinations whether it's elite offense, elite defense a combo of both being good, etc.   Both Super Bowl participants this season have good but not elite QBs and good but not elite defenses and got some luck.  There are a lot of ways to do it.

CRISPed in the DIAG

February 3rd, 2022 at 9:10 PM ^

Not sure where to start here. I like defense, but football is more about QB and offense right now. The rules completely favor offense and it is *easier* to build a team in the NFL by drafting an elite QB, paying him rookie money for the first few years, and attempting to build around him with interchangeable pieces. 

Burrow was the #1 overall pick who set passing records in college. He's carried the Bengals through the playoffs despite having no pass pro. I'm not sure if you watched the Bengals all year, but their defense didn't stop anyone. Their performance against Mahomes was more curious playcalling than anything the Bengals did defensively. Meanwhile, Burrow has emerged as a superstar.

Goff was producing like an elite QB for most of 2018 and was getting MVP talk in midseason. But Gurley went down and Belichick pretty much ended him. The Rams thought so much of his ability to get back to the SB, they dumped him on the Lions. Meanwhile, Stafford is pretty damned close to elite, despite what many Lions fans thought about him. While the Rams have a good DL, PFF overall had them ranked in the middle of the league for most of the year.

Garoppolo (sp?) is actually considered the reason the Niners didn't win in 2019 and he is getting the blame for not beating the Rams last weekend. He will not be a Niner in 2022. 

You would have been better off mentioning the Bills who did manage to play well defensively in 2021. But Josh Allen emerging as a freak probably has had more to do with their success over the past couple years.

DELRIO1978

February 6th, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^

Why did he freeze up? I found it strange, was he worried about leaving too much time on the clock for Joe Burrow? Instead of fitting into a narrow window did he want to wait for a easier throw? Did he relax when he found out the Bengals beat the Titans, then when he beat the Bills in heroic fashion, then getting a home game, then getting a 18 point lead, then getting to the red zone, then winning the OT coin flip? 

Yinka Double Dare

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:01 PM ^

You can win with just a decent QB taking up a huge portion of your cap but you need a deep set of contributing recent draft picks that are on rookie contracts (read: cheap) along with several other stars and they don't have it. Justin Jefferson is dynamite and on a rookie deal. Their defense is very much not. Danielle Hunter's contract is a cap killer if he can't stay on the field, but they don't have squat at edge to replace him either. So a new coach is either stuck with Cousins and trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit elsewhere, or they cut Cousins and other contracts, have a year of cap hell, then start rebuilding, and that doesn't seem terribly attractive either. Not fun!

Big Brown Jug

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:02 PM ^

Yeah, people need to look at Kirk's passing stats once in a while, because he was genuinely good this year, despite a tragic offensive line and a regularly injured star running back.  He's not going to set a secondary on fire like a Mahomes or Rodgers, but he's a second tier starting QB, and his salary is about at that level now that the superstar contracts have mostly surpassed his. 

The Vikings weren't exactly horrendous this year, all but one of their losses were by one score, and while the cap situation is bad for 2022, it gets much, much better in 2023.  They're a pretty attractive job, in in the spectrum of teams that fired their coaches this year.  

Golden section

February 3rd, 2022 at 9:43 PM ^

Cousin's deal is back loaded and counts for 45 million against the cap and that is as  much as anyone. So while he might play like a good second tier QB he gets paid like he's at the very top. 

There is no point in cutting Cousins because they have nothing behind them - Sean Mannion Nate Stanley? Maybe  you cut him and tank. Then  go after Bryce Young  or CJ Stroud. 

SituationSoap

February 4th, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^

Cousins is the QB equivalent of empty calories.

 

At one point this season, he was completing something like 73% of his passes on third down, for an above-average yards per attempt...and still only converting 32% of those into first downs. He's a dude who gets numbers, and those numbers very rarely convert into actually doing things that would win a football game.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 3rd, 2022 at 6:31 PM ^

You probably can't win a Super Bowl with Cousins because odds are good that he'll choose a playoff game to have one of those halves where he forgets how to quarterback.  He's prone to that every so often.

That said, I do disagree with Seth's assertion that the Vikings are a bottom of the barrel job.  True, the NFC North is second only to the NFC East in self-shootings of the foot, but the Vikings are as good a bet as any to come out on top of it next year.  The Lions seem promising but are still a ways out from being really serious; the Packers are $50 million over the cap and may or may not have to start Jordan Love next year; and the Bears are run by idiots, have no first round pick this year, and are, for some reason, all in on Justin Fields.  Cousins has a chance to be the division's best quarterback next year, depending on where Rodgers ends up and whether Jared Goff is First Half Goff or Second Half Goff.

Sleepy

February 3rd, 2022 at 7:21 PM ^

I'm a Vikes fan.  The problem with Kirk isn't that he's mediocre--mediocre QBs have won several Super Bowls in the past decade-ish (Flacco, 2015 Manning, Foles, etc.).  The problem is that he's mediocre and expensive.

No team has ever won a Super Bowl with their QB making over 13% of the cap.  It's never happened.  Kirk's scheduled to make 22% of the cap next year.

TrueBlue2003

February 3rd, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^

How many QBs seasons have ever existed in which a QB makes more than 13% of the cap I wonder?

Agree that his $45M cap hit next year is completely bonkers but given it's the first fully guaranteed contract ever, it's probably the first QB season ever in which a QB has made over 20% of the cap, maybe even 15%.

At least that mistake comes off the books after this year though.

blueandmaizeballs

February 3rd, 2022 at 8:53 PM ^

He is an alright QB but an asshole of person and not many players on his team care for him.   He is not a good leader for a QB and not many like him except the WRs who get the most balls and that's only cause he throws the football to them.  Had a good friend play with him on the Redskins and that is why they would never give him an extension because he is a selfish person and did many things that rub people the wrong way. There was no trust there between him and the players. Most thought he was a dickhead.   

TIMMMAAY

February 3rd, 2022 at 4:10 PM ^

I appreciate the effort to report everything, Seth. 

I do, however, wish the site didn't put this up as "the" story of how it went down. We just don't know. I realize you said that, several times, but (included disclaimers aside) 90% of the readers here will take the first bit as the gospel version of what happened. I think that creates another narrative around Harbaugh that isn't necessarily helpful. 

Z_Wolverista

February 4th, 2022 at 11:57 PM ^

Hell, why not?

Since no one knows for sure, I think I'll choose the "JJ walked to Minny to woo Harbaugh back & it worked" narrative... beats the rest, that's for sure.

Happy Year of the Tiger - Valentine's Day - I Would Walk 1,000 Miles Iteration II.

Hope it goes better for us than Version I (& that we're kinder to it, hard as that may seem at the moment).

Maybe this'll help me be less pissed. 

In any case -- Yay JJ!!

aiglick

February 3rd, 2022 at 4:11 PM ^

Wouldn’t it be awesome if somehow both JJ and Cade came back next year. Not sure that’s possible these days but they both seem like great people as well as very good QBs. Anyway time to move forward and pray we hit a bunch of threes this weekend before continuing on the football mountain. Oh yeah and don’t forget our suddenly resurgent WBB team who appears to be literally among the nation’s best.

smotheringD

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:20 PM ^

You bring up a great point.  As loyal fans, we might hope that our top 2 QB's would share that loyalty to the program, to the school, and not "look out for number 1".

And I don't blame or fault JH for pursuing his desire to coach in the NFL again.  Especially when half the fan base wanted him fired last year.

But it sets a tone.  It sends a message.  Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me to see both young men stay, in spite of all that's gone on.

Consider this.  In addition to almost guaranteed playing time, you would want to be going to a program on par with Michigan.  In terms of coaching, system, and wide receivers and backs to throw to, that can get separation.

The grass isn't always greener...

ERdocLSA2004

February 3rd, 2022 at 5:49 PM ^

I like both guys, a lot.  I’m honestly not sure that is a good idea.  The gimmicky use of the backup qb isn’t anything that can really continue.  We don’t have Tebow on the bench and JJ is the presumed started.  It worked ok since JJ was more athletic than Cade but with JJ as the projected mgoblog starter, I’m not sure what bringing Cade off the bench really adds.  I love Cade but the writing is kind of on the wall.  Who knows though, Harbaugh has been stubbornly loyal to qbs so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he continues to start Cade.