[LOCKED] Per Cornelius Johnson - Plans to "expand" offense
For all of those who thought Shea was "speaking out of turn", sounds like plans are in works to get ball more to playmakers. https://twitter.com/SamWebb77/status/1081927242236727296 [edit:mgowill] This thread is now locked because it has jumped the rails.
bluepalooza
January 6th, 2019 at 10:17 AM ^
Sorry, tried to embed tweet from Sam Webb... Please delete if it can't be fixed.
https://twitter.com/SamWebb77/status/1081927242236727296
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UMProud
January 6th, 2019 at 10:44 AM ^
Can you win big games with an offense that struggles to get plays off in time during pressure situations? JH has had that criticism most of his HCing career
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andidklein
January 6th, 2019 at 10:56 AM ^
Or struggles to get plays off at the beginning of the game or second half.
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JTGoBlue
January 6th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
Yes, as they did in four big games last year; MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU, at NW.
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East German Judge
January 6th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
....and how did the season end for us, CFP, Rose Bowl, B1G Championship, Meaningless Bowl Game win???
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B1G Winning
January 6th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Two of those teams had a combined record of 15-11 with losses to BYU, Minnesota, Arizona State, and Nebraska.
”Big” wins
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hillbillyblue
January 6th, 2019 at 1:17 PM ^
I’ll give you PSU was a big win. Wisconsin, eh. MSU and Northwester, that’s a big no.
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MIGHTYMOJO91
January 6th, 2019 at 1:52 PM ^
Maybe in the context of avenging the beat down from last year. Not so much in the grand scheme of things though. Maybe more impressive if it was at Happy Valley under white out conditions. In AA and favored,meh. The other 3 teams mentioned, 100% agreee.
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Double-D
January 6th, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^
I would say anytime you beat MSU it’s a pretty big win. Especially when you win in EL against a defense that shut teams down all year.
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Tuebor
January 6th, 2019 at 2:05 PM ^
20 pts against Northeestern was not a good performance by the offense.
Purdue, Duke, Akron, Nebraska, ND, OSU, and Utah all scored more than that. And MSU's electric offense scored 19 pts against them.
MSU finished 7-6 and Wisconsin finished 8-5. They werent good teams this year.
We scored the most points against PSU all season with 42. That was a nice win.
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LDNfan
January 6th, 2019 at 1:31 PM ^
Well considering his overall resume as a HC I guess the answer is "yes"
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Double-D
January 6th, 2019 at 10:50 AM ^
What did the tweet say?
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M-Dog
January 6th, 2019 at 11:26 AM ^
"Fields is a wussy."
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Double-D
January 6th, 2019 at 11:32 AM ^
Underrated word. And you can’t even get in trouble using it. I am bringing it back into my repertoire.
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M-Dog
January 6th, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
Exactly. I was going to use the p word, but then decided that I could get the same point across without somebody getting all in an uproar. Even my kids use wussy.
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I'mTheStig
January 6th, 2019 at 11:43 AM ^
Oh yes you can!!! The contemporary interpretation of wussy is simultaneously homophobic and misogynist. It's a double threat.
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lbpeley
January 6th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^
It saddens me deeply that you could be serious
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Double-D
January 6th, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^
Double D threat.
Is dink ok?
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sandy lyle
January 6th, 2019 at 1:36 PM ^
You’re sad bro. Appropriate police are sad. What’s that something possibly inappropriate on mgoblog, I’ll give them a piece of my mind! Saving lives, changing the internet, then the world!
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MIGHTYMOJO91
January 6th, 2019 at 2:03 PM ^
WTF did you just say? Words used properly can form sentences. This looks like a something from a 2yr old and a crayon on the family refrigerator.
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sandy lyle
January 6th, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^
Sick burn, your sentence structure is incredible, but the words are a bit clunky.
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Honk if Ufer M…
January 6th, 2019 at 2:02 PM ^
It saddens me that you you're saddened by that when it's obviously and indisputably true that the word IS both of those things.
I find it almost impossible to believe that one can be smart enough to use a device to type on, to read and write with basic literacy, or, though I have no proof you can do this, to tie your shoes, but not understand perfectly that the way that word is used and meant is ABSOLUTELY based on, derived from, and implies those views and attitudes!
Please, god, give one possible explanation of the genesis of the word, it's meaning and it's use that is divorced from those meanings, implications or interpretations, that isn't obviously laughable bullshit!
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lbpeley
January 6th, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^
Boo hoo.
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St Joe Blues
January 6th, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^
Don't be such a wuss.
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House Mother
January 6th, 2019 at 1:28 PM ^
Thank you for having second thoughts, M-Dog.
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The Mad Hatter
January 6th, 2019 at 1:29 PM ^
I never understood using pussy as an insult. Who doesn't like pussy?
Also saying that something gross tastes like ass. What's wrong with ass?
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BADAXXjones
January 6th, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^
Or - whose dirty ass are you eating to know what dirty ass tastes like. LOL
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Honk if Ufer M…
January 6th, 2019 at 2:23 PM ^
I speculate there are scatological associations with the ass that may cause the occasional shit eating resistant human to be in the proximity of squeam, or in other words, squeamish, at the very least!
I do find the expression almost as gross as the idea of actually eating shit though!
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Clarence Boddicker
January 6th, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^
Any part of the body is foul when it's unclean. A shapely female booty is...well, it's natures greatest wonder.
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Bob_Timberlake
January 6th, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
Rupaul and Elton John don't like p*ssy. Although I suspect Sir Elton has feasted on some in the past.
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Roy G. Biv
January 6th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
On what other website could you have an intelligent discussion regarding the grammatical and cultural merits of the word "wussy"? The tangential conversations that go on here are the best part of visiting.
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kevbo1
January 6th, 2019 at 10:18 AM ^
I'll believe it when I see it.
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NotADuck
January 6th, 2019 at 10:22 AM ^
Unfortunately this is my sentiment as well. According to the tweets from Michael Spath late last month there were a lot of things said before games and before the season started about how the offense would be run but those plans never came to fruition during games.
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Justibro
January 6th, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^
At least the coaches realize and aren't in their own universe saying the offense is just how they want. But I also hold the same sentiment, I will believe it when I see it because implimenting said change is always the hardest part of change
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Ger Sauden
January 6th, 2019 at 11:27 AM ^
Especially if you have a coach that may not have it in him to do it, or we would have seen it by now.
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East German Judge
January 6th, 2019 at 11:45 AM ^
We have heard till we're all blue in the face how we have such a complicated offense and such a big play book, but where is it, not on the field, just in some 3-ring binder.
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Ger Sauden
January 6th, 2019 at 11:56 AM ^
I think the same thing. Where is all the complexity we hear about. Blast the ball up the middle twice with Ben Mason. There was a great opportunity to do something complex instead. Make it look like a FB blast up the middle and do something else.
But we see 2 blasts up the middle. I still sit back in incredulity how predictable that was.
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gweb
January 6th, 2019 at 12:43 PM ^
It’s like on that 3rd and 4th down Harbaugh said yep, we’re coming up the gut with Mason. And since defenses know they will be dared to stop ONLY that, they have been doing exactly that.
Imagine had Michigan faked to Mason and quick shovel passed it out to Evans. He not only gets a first down but likely has one man to beat in the open field for big yards. Our coaches have to understand that possibility, but they would rather get a yard and break their will rather than take what you are given and mix it up. Mind numbing to watch!
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samdrussBLUE
January 6th, 2019 at 1:24 PM ^
That’s the problem. I big playbook doesn’t automatically translate into a big/good offense. Give me one or two dozen good plays, with some options/variations, that we can execute and that’s really all you need
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gruden
January 6th, 2019 at 1:56 PM ^
It's creativity not complexity. It's also recognizing what kind of talent you have and utilizing them properly. The bowl game was absolutely astounding to me how they made zero effort to do anything different or gameplan for Florida. It's a one-size-fits-all offense and that needs to change.
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Princetonwolverine
January 6th, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^
Agree, the same was true of the OSU game. I kept wondering if our coaches had reviewed any tapes.
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Honk if Ufer M…
January 6th, 2019 at 2:40 PM ^
Not only did they think they could do the same old shit because, hey, it's been working all year since ND dubuh dubuh badoo, but they seemed surprised that OSU had actually STUDIED THEM and knew what we do on both sides of the ball!
You think I'm kidding or just being snarky? NO! Straight from a big name players mouth to me!!! To be fair he didn't SAY they were surprised that OSU was so well prepared, but that when he was commenting on and complimenting them for watching film, the way he said it made it sound to me like it was at least somewhat of a surprise and and a contrast to our prep!
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DeepBlueC
January 6th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Not just creativity, but not being utterly predictable and telegraphing plays.
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M-Dog
January 6th, 2019 at 11:30 AM ^
The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one.
So, we're making at least some kind of progress.
Even if they are stretching the truth to appease recruits, at least they recognize that their current approach is not something to be proud of (and obstinate) about.
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East German Judge
January 6th, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^
....are we sure that the coach(es) understand it, haven't heard that from anyone on staff.
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Honk if Ufer M…
January 6th, 2019 at 3:00 PM ^
That's just not true, they can know that other people including recruits think it's true and that they needed to bullshit recruits in order to snare them while still being obstinate and still planning to do it their way regardless.
It's possible in the abstract obviously, but also since promising radical changes and modernizations but not implementing them is what they've done in the past, and since they are obviously stubborn in general, and proud of it, and believe that beating your head against a wall will eventually start to work as long as you stick with it for as long as the Afghanistan war, (remember the Drevno story about pumping the well?) then it might not be such a wild idea. Either that or it's just like Spath said.
However maybe a miracle will happen and the wolf will actually make an appearance this time, without all the crying!
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michMADE
January 6th, 2019 at 10:26 AM ^
This.
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Ger Sauden
January 6th, 2019 at 10:34 AM ^
I'm thinking the same.
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blueday
January 6th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^
Agreee. Show me the money!
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StirredNotShaken
January 6th, 2019 at 1:58 PM ^
Kevbo1, my sentiments exactly. I'm not buying into anything coming out of the program this off-season until I see change executed on the field and in big games (doing it against cupcakes doesn't count). The biggest obstacle we have to change in offensive philosophy is the head man himself. JH is the one who tells the story of Bo making sure he was going to use TEs and FBs in his offenses when he told him he was getting into coaching years ago. Until JH evolves past that approach we're going to be behind the curve.
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