Day seems to underachieve given his level of talent so the strategy is to increase the level of talent to the point where even those shortcomings are irrelevant. Apparently, if that requires buckets of $$ to pull off, so be it. Cardale Jones didn’t go to Columbus to “play school” and the mercenaries going there by taking the highest offer are unlikely to adopt an “I’ll do what it takes for the team” attitude as their eyes will always be on the next payday. Only time will tell if that’s a winning formula…
There is a life lesson here: the internet provides every idiot with a forum. Just look at RCMB or 11W and keep that in mind whatever media sources you happen to consume.
Again, the problem is not necessarily even Stalions’ transgressions. It is that the SP provides the Commissioner the ability to pretty much declare “unsportsmanlike” anything he wants to. Using stolen signs is not unsportsmanlike unless he’s decided that a line has been crossed as to how the stolen signs were obtained. The arguments are already pretty absurd on their face, except in the eyes of the Commissioner and other parties-in-interest.
Great points. It would be wonderful to somehow work in how Alan Haller is uniquely able to discern the point at which player safety becomes endangered from prohibited sign stealing activities while no such risk exists from allowed sign stealing activities — thus emphasizing the absurdity of the argument on its face. And supporting it with the discussion of why the NCAA, having concluded that no competitive advantage was gained, declined to address the issue of third party scouting.
I did read it and It did initially say he was “fired.”
It will be fascinating to see how this product evolves and I applaud your efforts. I fear, however, that this may well be a fool’s errand. Your prior work points out accurately that the SP is written so as to provide virtually “meaningless” restrictions as to that which the Commissioner can deem unsportsmanlike conduct or what penalties he can assess. Metaphorically, we are arguing the “fairness” of the referee’s call rather than his authority to have thrown the flag and make the call in the first place, having been thoroughly and effectively jaw-boned by those on the opposing bench…
Given what I think I know to be true, this is sloppy on its face. Michigan’s response to learning of Stalion’s activities was to suspend him with pay with Harbaugh immediately issuing a formal statement disavowing any knowledge of or participation in the so-called “scheme.” There has be zero evidence that has suggested otherwise and Stalions’ subsequent resignation was accompanied by statements supporting that disavowal.
The risk in a court proceeding may well be that the Sportsmanship Policy essentially places no limits either on what the Commissioner, with unlimited discretion, considers to be unsportsmanlike or against whom a disciplinary penalty may be assessed. He could, for instance, decide that the band has committed a violation and assess a penalty against the head coach — all essentially at his unfettered discretion as long as the penalty is within the $10,000/two “contest” parameter. I have no idea how a court would deal with the irreparable damage argument against the lack of any limits in the policy.
More powerful, perhaps, is the fact that the only alleged offensive actions are Stalions’ activities which are what engaged the NCAA, and the Rules preclude the conference from stepping into an ongoing NCAA investigation. Again, I have no idea whether there are arguments that could deem this not to be an ongoing investigation or somehow create a distinction that puts it under the unlimited jurisdiction of the Commissioner.
One final thought: the alleged Stalions’ CMU game attendance question seems akin to the discovery of cocaine at the White House this past summer — those that could easily provide an explanation of the facts are the least desirous of having the facts known — but that’s the conspiracy theorist in me…
These boards are phenomenal and leave careful readers knowing things rather than being left with guesses and opinions. In the grand scheme of things, we are dealing with the line where allowed sign stealing becomes prohibited sign stealing and, therefore “cheating.” Setting aside the CMU piece of the story (there is something very strange about Stalions showing up credentialed and in coach’s game livery where several people would know him and not being noticed) the third party, in person scouting violates the spirit if not the letter of the NCAA rule. The NCAA, following its ponderous enforcement procedures (think cheeseburgers) could use its look-through rule and mete out some punishment to its nemesis, Harbaugh. It would be justified but the punishment would need to reflect not only (what I think is) the prior Baylor precedent but also the fact that this is a rule prohibiting something which conferred no competitive advantage but no one cared enough about it to get rid of.
The B1G and Petitti have a multiplicity of problems. AFAIK, the only formal statement has been to issue the notice of potential disciplinary action. No other statements or attributed quotes other than crap “from sources.” The B1G can’t deal with the substance of Stalions’ transgressions because they’re the subject of an on-going NCAA investigation which, by rule, has to be completed before the conference can add penalties. We’re left, therefore with the amorphous “sportsmanship” violations which, given a complete lack of a single fact tying anything to anyone other than vacuum cleaner man, is highly suspect. Remember the only rule potentially broken was in-person scouting. Using stolen signs? No problem — everyone does it. And the B1G would have to employ the NCAA “look-through” rule and not a conference rule to attach culpability to Harbaugh to justify sanctioning him specifically.
With the OSU/Purdue/Rutgers revelations (Schiano’s non-denial deflections in his presser today said volumes) Petitti has found himself in a box from which it will be fascinating to see how he attempts to extricate himself and the Conference.
How likely is it that Day lives with the specter of John Cooper hanging over his head. He’s beaten Michigan once in 2019 with an Urban Meyer-curated team, and was thoroughly embarrassed the last two years to the point where his team quit at the end of last year’s game. Anyone that knows a damn thing about football knows that last years lame defensive schemes and not sign intelligence was the reason for his team’s failures. And being tough in the trenches. Why else would anyone go off half-cocked at Lou Holtz for pointing this out. It is not unthinkable that lighting the fuse on this whole shit storm was viewed as a way of fogging the lens that would reveal his shortcomings.
Interesting and I think you’re missing your most salient point. With clear and indisputable video evidence of wrongdoing, the B1G did not follow the NCAA bylaws and assign culpability to Mel Tucker for the players actions. In the current case, a total absence of involvement of anyone other than Stalions would require just that in order to attach any blame to Harbaugh — morphing a lone wolf activity into a lack of institutional control claim and laying the entirety of the blame on JH. And, again, this entire issue is in arbitrarily defining the point at which allowed sign stealing becomes disallowed sign stealing and becomes “cheating…”
AFAIK, there is not a lot of history, much less a “long” one of the NCAA enforcement of the 2012 “head coach is responsible” bylaw. And the text of the bylaw allows for mitigation by providing evidence of a rule compliance environment. That said, with all of the initial fuel for this firestorm having been leaked from the NCAA, it certainly appears that they’ve no love for Harbaugh.
Pettiti’s calculus has to include his career risk in a new job taking unprecedented steps at the behest of a bunch of highly interested parties none of whom know any/all of the actual facts. And Ono has telegraphed that legal action, with a high likelihood of an injunction, is Michigan’s likely response, opening up a whole can of subpoena, deposition and other testimonial worms. And all of this over drawing the line where allowed versus prohibited sign stealing activities becomes “cheating,” and where the CMU stunt (where is that CMU “investigation, BTW) is the only slam-dunk rule violation.
MSU: individual players suspended for assaults that could be ascertained from multiple video sources. No program-level implications or penalties,
M: allegations provided to and selectively leaked from the NCAA with the only named individual already suspended. Any or all involvement by anyone other that Stalions is pure speculation and conjecture.
For Haller to suggest a double standard exists by either not taking action against Harbaugh or the program as a whole is simply moronic, but then…
Amen!! It appears pretty clear that Stalions was a rogue actor. No way in hell that the CMU stunt, if true, was authorized (how could three CMU coaches that would have known him not noticed?) If he was Michigan’s designated sign stealing “guru” (remember, sign stealing, per se, is not violating any rule that AFAIK has been cited anywhere) how certain is it that anyone would know that his primary sources included data gathered through prohibited, advance scouting tapes versus “legal” TV or all 22 copies or just watching in-game. Isn’t that why players watch film?
Remember, all that we THINK we KNOW is coming from a bunch of selectively leaked information from anonymous sources, many/most/all of which are well served by the firestorm fed by media that values clicks and impressions over journalistic integrity, all of which has been precipitated by reports of an unknown third-party investigative firm with an unidentified “client.”
You can draw pretty precise parallels to the Russian Collusion scandal that tied up all FOUR YEARS of the Trump presidency down to the individual component players (BTW, not to defend Trump but to point out how these things have legs.). Anyone believe that the NCAA wouldn’t love to have Harbaugh out of its hair?
Best advice: relax. If you’re going to use the same clubs for YEARS, you can wait a few weeks to get them. Your fitting experience should have delivered the best head/shaft/grip consideration for you and nobody else’s configuration and/or experience is relevant. It probably would not have gone down well if you’d told your wife to hurry so you could celebrate Halloween…
Three turnovers, a stolen (indisputably) touchdown and a couple of instances of abandoned (inexplicably) year-long successful defensive philosophy. ‘Nuf said.
I would think it more useful to speculate as to the longevity of the GM that negotiated the Wilson deal before spilling ink on potential head coaches….
Without a deep personnel analysis, TCU seems to have won a lot of close/very close, relatively high-score games against not-great defenses. Michigan will get its points and, if successful, on soul and stamina-crushing drives. Minter seems to like his “four point plays,” making opponents extend drives and getting increasingly stingy as the field compresses in the red zone, providing scoring margin. And who didn’t have problems with Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, Amp Lee and Roger Staubach (really?). Whenever you’re faced with a capable, multi-dimensional offense, the choices are to scheme to limit it or hope to out perform in a track meet. OSU’s self-limited running game (apparently low confidence in its’ RBs and Stroud’s refusal to run) was a gift.
As far as the MMB is concerned, seems as if the announcement is trying hard to “put lipstick on the pig.” In 50 years, I’ve never once given a thought or heard a reference to the orientation of the field vs. that of the Stadium’s field. It’s just a longer walk…
How cool. I wasn’t aware that being an alum gave anyone such plenary authority. Oh wait, that’s why inconvenient things like due process and a presumption of innocence exist.
Just remember, we live in an era where EVERY idiot has a forum (present company decidedly not excluded.) We are still probably two months removed from decisions being made as to whether the campuses will even be open for business. While it’s likely that Joel Klatt has sources to support his assertions, the information upon which the actual decision makers are going to make those decisions is subject to dramatic change between now and whenever a decision actually does get made. His opinion is about a valuable as those which I can extract from my two Portuguese Water Dogs.
It’s kind of hard to believe that anyone that calls him/herself a Wolverine wouldn’t know that the glee club has been performing this it its entirely for , oh, maybe a hundred years or so...
Homecoming October,1967 vs. Indiana. Their last Rose Bowl team featured John Isenbarger and Harry Gonzo and was dubbed the Cardiac Kids for the way they managed to pull out last minute victories. Michigan had a guy named Ron Johnson... Indiana jumped to a 20 point lead and Michigan came back and tied, then surrendered a late touchdown. First time I saw the Michigan Band which I later joined and was a four year member.
Great listen and a trip down memory lane. 1973 was my third year in the MMB as a junior. A couple of observations/corrections. Not too important: the glass structure connecting Haven, Mason and Angel Halls was called the “fishbowl”. Bladh referred to it as the “punchbowl” — either a cemetery in Hawaii or a frequently used golf hole design by CB MacDonald and Seth Raynor. More significantly, the last appearance of the “Marching Men of Michigan” was the 1972 Rose Bowl. George Cavender acted quickly after Title IV and the first women (around a dozen more or less) joined for the 1972 season. Also women cheerleaders, I believe, though IIRC, the men’s and women’s squads were separated and the women had all white uniforms and the men sported the traditional yellow “M” sweaters and blue pants.
The other, not fully explained perversity at the time which was the bowl participation’s rules, which meant that, regardless of whether Harry Banks had scored in the 1972 game, a “no repeat” rule would have precluded Michigan from going to the Rose Bowl after the 1972 season. That rule was done away with setting the stage for the 1973 vote debacle and enabling OSU to be voted in the the 1974 game as well as after Mike Lantry’s “missed” field goal in 1974. (I was standing right behind the goal posts in the tunnel on our way out of the stadium an it sure appeared good.). The “only Rose Bowl” agreement was done away with prior to the 1975 season leading to Michigan having a bowl participation string lasting from the 1975 season until Brady Hoke’s tenure. The travesty was that the graduating class of 1975, not having freshmen eligibility and having a three year record that included only the 1972 and 1974 losses to OSU and the 1973 tie, never attended a bowl game.
This readership is too young to have a long enough perspective to really develop such a list. Consider the story behind #33 on the wall at Ray Fisher Stadium: Don Lund. Nine letters, three each in football, baseball and basketball when freshmen weren't eligible. Baseball captain, football co-captain. Drafted by the Chicago Bears in first round, signed with Brooklyn Dodgers. After pro baseball career, coached Michigan's only NCAA championship in baseball. M family: son-in-law on '64 rose Bowl team. Nephew and great nephew both M golfers. After going back to Tigers to run farm organization, spent years in M athletic administration before retiring. Certainly but one example of a Michigan all-time great that most are just too young to recall. And, by the way, came up to the Dodgers the same day that Jackie Robinson did. Full disclosure: a first cousin of my father's.
If that's what Meyer has to resort to, Brady & company have won. In a head-to-head any athlete being recruited by both who has seen both will see through it as BS. He's playing to his base. Who cares?
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Day seems to underachieve given his level of talent so the strategy is to increase the level of talent to the point where even those shortcomings are irrelevant. Apparently, if that requires buckets of $$ to pull off, so be it. Cardale Jones didn’t go to Columbus to “play school” and the mercenaries going there by taking the highest offer are unlikely to adopt an “I’ll do what it takes for the team” attitude as their eyes will always be on the next payday. Only time will tell if that’s a winning formula…
There is a life lesson here: the internet provides every idiot with a forum. Just look at RCMB or 11W and keep that in mind whatever media sources you happen to consume.
Did they watch the games? 2021:Hassan Haskins. 2022: cover zero. That is all…
Again, the problem is not necessarily even Stalions’ transgressions. It is that the SP provides the Commissioner the ability to pretty much declare “unsportsmanlike” anything he wants to. Using stolen signs is not unsportsmanlike unless he’s decided that a line has been crossed as to how the stolen signs were obtained. The arguments are already pretty absurd on their face, except in the eyes of the Commissioner and other parties-in-interest.
Impressive…but College Station???
Great points. It would be wonderful to somehow work in how Alan Haller is uniquely able to discern the point at which player safety becomes endangered from prohibited sign stealing activities while no such risk exists from allowed sign stealing activities — thus emphasizing the absurdity of the argument on its face. And supporting it with the discussion of why the NCAA, having concluded that no competitive advantage was gained, declined to address the issue of third party scouting.
I did read it and It did initially say he was “fired.”
It will be fascinating to see how this product evolves and I applaud your efforts. I fear, however, that this may well be a fool’s errand. Your prior work points out accurately that the SP is written so as to provide virtually “meaningless” restrictions as to that which the Commissioner can deem unsportsmanlike conduct or what penalties he can assess. Metaphorically, we are arguing the “fairness” of the referee’s call rather than his authority to have thrown the flag and make the call in the first place, having been thoroughly and effectively jaw-boned by those on the opposing bench…
Given what I think I know to be true, this is sloppy on its face. Michigan’s response to learning of Stalion’s activities was to suspend him with pay with Harbaugh immediately issuing a formal statement disavowing any knowledge of or participation in the so-called “scheme.” There has be zero evidence that has suggested otherwise and Stalions’ subsequent resignation was accompanied by statements supporting that disavowal.
Rule 32. Pay attention.
The risk in a court proceeding may well be that the Sportsmanship Policy essentially places no limits either on what the Commissioner, with unlimited discretion, considers to be unsportsmanlike or against whom a disciplinary penalty may be assessed. He could, for instance, decide that the band has committed a violation and assess a penalty against the head coach — all essentially at his unfettered discretion as long as the penalty is within the $10,000/two “contest” parameter. I have no idea how a court would deal with the irreparable damage argument against the lack of any limits in the policy.
More powerful, perhaps, is the fact that the only alleged offensive actions are Stalions’ activities which are what engaged the NCAA, and the Rules preclude the conference from stepping into an ongoing NCAA investigation. Again, I have no idea whether there are arguments that could deem this not to be an ongoing investigation or somehow create a distinction that puts it under the unlimited jurisdiction of the Commissioner.
One final thought: the alleged Stalions’ CMU game attendance question seems akin to the discovery of cocaine at the White House this past summer — those that could easily provide an explanation of the facts are the least desirous of having the facts known — but that’s the conspiracy theorist in me…
Vacuums on the porch = toys in the attic…
These boards are phenomenal and leave careful readers knowing things rather than being left with guesses and opinions. In the grand scheme of things, we are dealing with the line where allowed sign stealing becomes prohibited sign stealing and, therefore “cheating.” Setting aside the CMU piece of the story (there is something very strange about Stalions showing up credentialed and in coach’s game livery where several people would know him and not being noticed) the third party, in person scouting violates the spirit if not the letter of the NCAA rule. The NCAA, following its ponderous enforcement procedures (think cheeseburgers) could use its look-through rule and mete out some punishment to its nemesis, Harbaugh. It would be justified but the punishment would need to reflect not only (what I think is) the prior Baylor precedent but also the fact that this is a rule prohibiting something which conferred no competitive advantage but no one cared enough about it to get rid of.
The B1G and Petitti have a multiplicity of problems. AFAIK, the only formal statement has been to issue the notice of potential disciplinary action. No other statements or attributed quotes other than crap “from sources.” The B1G can’t deal with the substance of Stalions’ transgressions because they’re the subject of an on-going NCAA investigation which, by rule, has to be completed before the conference can add penalties. We’re left, therefore with the amorphous “sportsmanship” violations which, given a complete lack of a single fact tying anything to anyone other than vacuum cleaner man, is highly suspect. Remember the only rule potentially broken was in-person scouting. Using stolen signs? No problem — everyone does it. And the B1G would have to employ the NCAA “look-through” rule and not a conference rule to attach culpability to Harbaugh to justify sanctioning him specifically.
With the OSU/Purdue/Rutgers revelations (Schiano’s non-denial deflections in his presser today said volumes) Petitti has found himself in a box from which it will be fascinating to see how he attempts to extricate himself and the Conference.
How likely is it that Day lives with the specter of John Cooper hanging over his head. He’s beaten Michigan once in 2019 with an Urban Meyer-curated team, and was thoroughly embarrassed the last two years to the point where his team quit at the end of last year’s game. Anyone that knows a damn thing about football knows that last years lame defensive schemes and not sign intelligence was the reason for his team’s failures. And being tough in the trenches. Why else would anyone go off half-cocked at Lou Holtz for pointing this out. It is not unthinkable that lighting the fuse on this whole shit storm was viewed as a way of fogging the lens that would reveal his shortcomings.
Interesting and I think you’re missing your most salient point. With clear and indisputable video evidence of wrongdoing, the B1G did not follow the NCAA bylaws and assign culpability to Mel Tucker for the players actions. In the current case, a total absence of involvement of anyone other than Stalions would require just that in order to attach any blame to Harbaugh — morphing a lone wolf activity into a lack of institutional control claim and laying the entirety of the blame on JH. And, again, this entire issue is in arbitrarily defining the point at which allowed sign stealing becomes disallowed sign stealing and becomes “cheating…”
AFAIK, there is not a lot of history, much less a “long” one of the NCAA enforcement of the 2012 “head coach is responsible” bylaw. And the text of the bylaw allows for mitigation by providing evidence of a rule compliance environment. That said, with all of the initial fuel for this firestorm having been leaked from the NCAA, it certainly appears that they’ve no love for Harbaugh.
Pettiti’s calculus has to include his career risk in a new job taking unprecedented steps at the behest of a bunch of highly interested parties none of whom know any/all of the actual facts. And Ono has telegraphed that legal action, with a high likelihood of an injunction, is Michigan’s likely response, opening up a whole can of subpoena, deposition and other testimonial worms. And all of this over drawing the line where allowed versus prohibited sign stealing activities becomes “cheating,” and where the CMU stunt (where is that CMU “investigation, BTW) is the only slam-dunk rule violation.
MSU: individual players suspended for assaults that could be ascertained from multiple video sources. No program-level implications or penalties,
M: allegations provided to and selectively leaked from the NCAA with the only named individual already suspended. Any or all involvement by anyone other that Stalions is pure speculation and conjecture.
For Haller to suggest a double standard exists by either not taking action against Harbaugh or the program as a whole is simply moronic, but then…
Amen!! It appears pretty clear that Stalions was a rogue actor. No way in hell that the CMU stunt, if true, was authorized (how could three CMU coaches that would have known him not noticed?) If he was Michigan’s designated sign stealing “guru” (remember, sign stealing, per se, is not violating any rule that AFAIK has been cited anywhere) how certain is it that anyone would know that his primary sources included data gathered through prohibited, advance scouting tapes versus “legal” TV or all 22 copies or just watching in-game. Isn’t that why players watch film?
Remember, all that we THINK we KNOW is coming from a bunch of selectively leaked information from anonymous sources, many/most/all of which are well served by the firestorm fed by media that values clicks and impressions over journalistic integrity, all of which has been precipitated by reports of an unknown third-party investigative firm with an unidentified “client.”
You can draw pretty precise parallels to the Russian Collusion scandal that tied up all FOUR YEARS of the Trump presidency down to the individual component players (BTW, not to defend Trump but to point out how these things have legs.). Anyone believe that the NCAA wouldn’t love to have Harbaugh out of its hair?
No love for the V-Bell? I’m a bit surprised….
Best advice: relax. If you’re going to use the same clubs for YEARS, you can wait a few weeks to get them. Your fitting experience should have delivered the best head/shaft/grip consideration for you and nobody else’s configuration and/or experience is relevant. It probably would not have gone down well if you’d told your wife to hurry so you could celebrate Halloween…
Best advice: don’t look for advice from a bunch of people that you don’t know on some web site!
Three turnovers, a stolen (indisputably) touchdown and a couple of instances of abandoned (inexplicably) year-long successful defensive philosophy. ‘Nuf said.
I would think it more useful to speculate as to the longevity of the GM that negotiated the Wilson deal before spilling ink on potential head coaches….
1. 1967. Indiana’s Cardiac Kids. First time in Michigan Stadium. The Marching Band!!
2. 1971. 5-4-3-2-1 Touchdown! Billy Taylor! Rain, Snow and Hail to the Victors.
3. 1991. Helloo Heisman!
4. 1997. Woodson’s punt return — same sideline/same end zone. Best atmosphere with the old seating — electric with the NC in sight.
5. 2021. Best atmosphere ever. Nuf said.
Sophomoric behavior is clearly not limited to sophomores. Go with grace Cade and Erik. Move on.
Without a deep personnel analysis, TCU seems to have won a lot of close/very close, relatively high-score games against not-great defenses. Michigan will get its points and, if successful, on soul and stamina-crushing drives. Minter seems to like his “four point plays,” making opponents extend drives and getting increasingly stingy as the field compresses in the red zone, providing scoring margin. And who didn’t have problems with Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, Amp Lee and Roger Staubach (really?). Whenever you’re faced with a capable, multi-dimensional offense, the choices are to scheme to limit it or hope to out perform in a track meet. OSU’s self-limited running game (apparently low confidence in its’ RBs and Stroud’s refusal to run) was a gift.
As far as the MMB is concerned, seems as if the announcement is trying hard to “put lipstick on the pig.” In 50 years, I’ve never once given a thought or heard a reference to the orientation of the field vs. that of the Stadium’s field. It’s just a longer walk…
Beat Purdue!
Add mine to the best wishes. Name self-explanatory…
Tuition as a 1971 freshman: $660. 40 miles from home. Applied nowhere else. Got accepted (phew!)
Talk to me in December….
1974. I was a senior in that band.
How cool. I wasn’t aware that being an alum gave anyone such plenary authority. Oh wait, that’s why inconvenient things like due process and a presumption of innocence exist.
Just remember, we live in an era where EVERY idiot has a forum (present company decidedly not excluded.) We are still probably two months removed from decisions being made as to whether the campuses will even be open for business. While it’s likely that Joel Klatt has sources to support his assertions, the information upon which the actual decision makers are going to make those decisions is subject to dramatic change between now and whenever a decision actually does get made. His opinion is about a valuable as those which I can extract from my two Portuguese Water Dogs.
It’s kind of hard to believe that anyone that calls him/herself a Wolverine wouldn’t know that the glee club has been performing this it its entirely for , oh, maybe a hundred years or so...
Oops, slow ‘net.
impatient
Homecoming October,1967 vs. Indiana. Their last Rose Bowl team featured John Isenbarger and Harry Gonzo and was dubbed the Cardiac Kids for the way they managed to pull out last minute victories. Michigan had a guy named Ron Johnson... Indiana jumped to a 20 point lead and Michigan came back and tied, then surrendered a late touchdown. First time I saw the Michigan Band which I later joined and was a four year member.
Great listen and a trip down memory lane. 1973 was my third year in the MMB as a junior. A couple of observations/corrections. Not too important: the glass structure connecting Haven, Mason and Angel Halls was called the “fishbowl”. Bladh referred to it as the “punchbowl” — either a cemetery in Hawaii or a frequently used golf hole design by CB MacDonald and Seth Raynor. More significantly, the last appearance of the “Marching Men of Michigan” was the 1972 Rose Bowl. George Cavender acted quickly after Title IV and the first women (around a dozen more or less) joined for the 1972 season. Also women cheerleaders, I believe, though IIRC, the men’s and women’s squads were separated and the women had all white uniforms and the men sported the traditional yellow “M” sweaters and blue pants.
The other, not fully explained perversity at the time which was the bowl participation’s rules, which meant that, regardless of whether Harry Banks had scored in the 1972 game, a “no repeat” rule would have precluded Michigan from going to the Rose Bowl after the 1972 season. That rule was done away with setting the stage for the 1973 vote debacle and enabling OSU to be voted in the the 1974 game as well as after Mike Lantry’s “missed” field goal in 1974. (I was standing right behind the goal posts in the tunnel on our way out of the stadium an it sure appeared good.). The “only Rose Bowl” agreement was done away with prior to the 1975 season leading to Michigan having a bowl participation string lasting from the 1975 season until Brady Hoke’s tenure. The travesty was that the graduating class of 1975, not having freshmen eligibility and having a three year record that included only the 1972 and 1974 losses to OSU and the 1973 tie, never attended a bowl game.