We really want a guy who won exactly zero tournament games in 6 years at Texas. No, thanks.
And if only we had a thread a few spots down the board to post coaching candidate ideas. But that was too good for this poster. He just had to have his idea seen.
Yes I am aware of the Brandon Miller situation. And I don’t blame coaches for what their players do outside of the court, it’s how they respond after it happens. And what he did is not suspend a guy who wasn’t charged with a crime when he did not have all the facts. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
And to answer your question, yes I think his culture would be way better than Howard’s. I’ll repeat myself, he wins and doesn’t punch people. So an emphatic yes to that question.
Yeah you’re right, they’re not a culture fit for the basketball program. They win and they don’t punch people. And their players haven’t completely quit on their team.
So yeah you’re right, our culture is so amazing we can’t dare and bring in a guy who doesn’t fit it.
I hate the high horse that people sit on around here
I don’t understand your argument. This is a Michigan sports blog and the main sport going on right now is experiencing its worst season in about 60 years. Not much positive you can say, so the only real discussion is probably going to be negative. Should we only post during seasons that are going well. Or should we just be blind to what’s going on.
Also, you know if you don’t like a topic you don’t have to click on it, read it, and comment on it several times.
It’s because some of us really don’t care about likability we care about wins. Twill maybe a great guy, but he’s not a good basketball player at this level that helps win games. Hope he goes on to have a great life in whatever he chooses, but I’m done watching him in a Michigan uniform.
I’m so sick of hearing about the timing in which JB left. NBA jobs aren’t open when the college season ends. If you take an NBA job you wouldn’t be doing it until late April or into May. Don’t see what else he could’ve done if that was the path he chose. And it’s been 5 years, we can stop putting even 1% of the blame on JB. This is all on Howard.
This is a bad argument. If you left out every team with 3 losses you wouldn’t have enough teams to make 14. Look at the polls, the #14 team always has at least 3 losses.
This is one of the poorest attempts at humor I’ve seen in a while.
Hey this guys name is one letter away from a guy we hate, isn’t that funny!!!! A ten year old wouldn’t find this funny.
The team is 5-20 in its last 25 games. That’s beyond horrendous. I assume you’re trying to say that we suck for being fair weather fans. But there’s a big difference between fair weather fan and simply not wasting time and money on a team that mailed it in a while ago. Your post sounds whiny and you come off seeming like you feel superior to everyone who didn’t attend. Have fun if that’s your thing. But don’t crap on people making rational decisions. Me, I’d personally rather watch the rose bowl for 50th time.
Why is Nate Oates a non starter? Cause of how he operates? What? He’s the best candidate if we could get him. If you’re going to say he’s a sleazy human being, I will respond with I don’t care. We’ve had a coach for 5 years who punches people and threatened another coaches life on the court and kept his job because at the time he was winning. We can get off our high horse. This morality complex with UM fans is ridiculous. College sports are incredibly dirty and always has been, especially basketball.
Unpopular opinion and people can neg me, but you’re absolutely right. It’s nice to have him for depth but people saying this raises our floor by 3 wins is crazy. This guy was 2nd string at Indiana. To think he’s gonna step in and be the guy is optimistic at best. And you can’t just say, well he'll be relying on the run game when we don’t know how that’s going to go either with 5 new starters. If this is who we’re going into the season with I think we’ll be in trouble. Hope I’m wrong. Go Blue.
Warde should be fired for his NIL stance alone. He’s crying about transformational over transactional, when I’m pretty sure he doesn’t work for free. How anybody can defend a person who refuses to join the modern era is beyond me. Yeah we just won a national title, but sometimes you win something despite a person, not because of them. And you’re actually defending a guy who uses the term pay for play. It’s pay for work. We can fall behind OSU and the other blue bloods very fast and sadly probably will if this is the university’s attitude.
So it’s ok to suck as long as we saw it coming. This isn’t his 1st year which is about the only reason your logic would make sense. You're either a contrarian or are just wearing blinders when it comes to Howard.
Man if you think calling someone a clown is below the belt, I would stay away from the game threads. And if you can watch this without thinking this is a clown show, you’re watching a different game than I am.
I hope during the month off they were practicing plays for Edwards in the passing game, just for the title game. Plays we maybe didn’t want to use against Alabamas athletic linebackers. Been waiting for Edwards in the passing game all season. But like most have said we just need to stick to what we do, it’d just be nice to see a few plays designed better for Edwards in the passing game
Nice to have it on New Year’s Day and not New Year’s Eve. Wonder if that helped with the ratings at all. But then again Washington-Texas did worse than the games last year, so who knows. Great to see that the largest audience in years got to see Michigan roll the tide!!! Go Blue!!!!
If it was so rigged then why did the refs call offsides on the second attempt. Seems to me if they’re “rigging” the game they would’ve let that go. Maybe it’s just the refs are incompetent and bad at their jobs at times. But to say they’re rigging the game is just ridiculous.
Yeah, going for two after the penalty is nuts. They got lucky to get an offsides penalty on Dallas, but they definitely should’ve just kicked the EP on the 2nd attempt. Though on the 3rd attempt the play is there if Goff just throws a better pass.
Nobody is opting out of playoff games. People keep saying this and it has yet to happen, and it won’t. Players want to play in playoff games, they opt out of the other bowl games because they’re NOT playoff games. The playoffs will be fine. It’s the other games that are absolute jokes.
Crable didn’t get a penalty for late hit, his penalty was for hitting Smith too high. I believe he made a joke after the game about Troy Smith being 5 foot nothing.
You make fun of peoples lack of basketball knowledge in one sentence, and in the next sentence say they have the makings of a good team. What are you watching, cause I have to question your basketball knowledge saying that. What about this team screams “we’ve got something brewing here.”
Also, someone seeing a poorly coached team for 3 straight seasons now and making an observation of that on a message board isn’t a hater or out for blood. They're simply stating what they, and many of us without blinders on can see. We all hope it turns around and everything works out, but it clearly looks like that’s not what’s happening. And to say otherwise is ignoring the facts of what’s going on.
I was definitely broken from football at that time. At least we had basketball for a lot of those down years. Imagine if the football team hadn’t turned it around, how down in the dumps we would be having nothing to look forward to outside of hockey. Which I really don’t follow. Truly appreciate the last 3 seasons, they we desperately needed. Go Blue!!!
Well, everyone said this was the least interesting Final Four ever, but that was a hell of a game. I don’t care who’s playing, I just want a competitive hard fought close game, and that’s what we got.
I only have two left. Texas and UCONN. I actually enjoy that my bracket has been pathetic, means a lot of chaos and mayhem. And that’s what the tournaments all about. I always root for the madness.
Purdue did hang two banners this season. This is as embarrassing a loss as it gets. But they did hang two banners this year. Not that I actually wanna trade spots with them right now, as I would be deviated as a fan. But Purdue had a better season than Michigan.
I’m definitely rooting for the Harbaugh ending over the Hoke ending. But Harbaugh at least had a track record before Michigan. Juwan doesn’t. I sincerely hope it works out and he figures it out next season. I’m just becoming increasingly concerned that he will not, especially if his top three players leave. Hopefully I’m wrong. Go Blue.
I really hope you’re wrong about the Hoke vibes. But if Jett, Kobe, and Hunter leave, I fear this is correct. I love Michigan basketball and it sickens me we won’t be playing in the tournament. I hope we get everyone we need back. I hope they figure out a lot in this off-season, cause something never seemed right about this team. Go Blue
Well that meme was a failure. Apparently copy and paste isn’t good enough. I guess I’m mgoblog meme illiterate. Never had a problem anywhere else. Oh well, Go Blue!!!
The only thing you can really say is this team couldn’t win in crunch time. Seems all we do in last second chances is high ball screen and go from there. That’s what we should be doing after the play that’s drawn up breaks down. Especially with 20 some seconds left on the clock to start. They definitely gave us some exciting games down the stretch, they just didn’t end well. Oh well. I guess you never know, they could make a run in the BTT. Go Blue!!!
I agree with you mostly. I just hate watching 3 straight weeks of games that have no intrigue. Games that can only be mundane or annoying. But yeah, if that’s our new scheduling and the rest of college football schedules their non-conference this way, then that’s what we have to do. Still, it’s a lot more exciting playing Oklahoma or Texas than East Carolina.
Well I complain about weak non-conference scheduling so I guess I can’t complain about this. In a 12 team playoff, losses won’t be so damaging. Especially tough losses to good teams. And on the other hand a win will look massive. Excited for the match-up and Go Blue!!!
Music to my ears. Though I don’t think he would’ve beaten out Bryce Young two seasons ago. I’m glad he gets to have nightmares about Michigan. First OSU QB in quite a long time.
Fox is already drooling over all the extra commercials they can run. I hate changes to speed up the game. That’s fine for all the other sports. But football is an event that we only get a limited number of per season.
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One of the greatest announcers of all time in my opinion. R.I.P.
We really want a guy who won exactly zero tournament games in 6 years at Texas. No, thanks.
And if only we had a thread a few spots down the board to post coaching candidate ideas. But that was too good for this poster. He just had to have his idea seen.
Totally agree with you. If Warde doesn’t fire Howard and then Santa doesn’t fire Warde, then Santa needs to be thought of in the same light as Warde.
Yes I am aware of the Brandon Miller situation. And I don’t blame coaches for what their players do outside of the court, it’s how they respond after it happens. And what he did is not suspend a guy who wasn’t charged with a crime when he did not have all the facts. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
And to answer your question, yes I think his culture would be way better than Howard’s. I’ll repeat myself, he wins and doesn’t punch people. So an emphatic yes to that question.
Yeah you’re right, they’re not a culture fit for the basketball program. They win and they don’t punch people. And their players haven’t completely quit on their team.
So yeah you’re right, our culture is so amazing we can’t dare and bring in a guy who doesn’t fit it.
I hate the high horse that people sit on around here
I think we need that 7’0+ center to be the starter. I don’t think Reed is ever gonna be a quality starter level player.
I don’t understand your argument. This is a Michigan sports blog and the main sport going on right now is experiencing its worst season in about 60 years. Not much positive you can say, so the only real discussion is probably going to be negative. Should we only post during seasons that are going well. Or should we just be blind to what’s going on.
Also, you know if you don’t like a topic you don’t have to click on it, read it, and comment on it several times.
It’s because some of us really don’t care about likability we care about wins. Twill maybe a great guy, but he’s not a good basketball player at this level that helps win games. Hope he goes on to have a great life in whatever he chooses, but I’m done watching him in a Michigan uniform.
We didn’t make the final four with Dickinson. We lost in the elite eight.
Agreed. Twill is not a starter on a real power 5 team and I’m sick of watching him try to be.
I’m so sick of hearing about the timing in which JB left. NBA jobs aren’t open when the college season ends. If you take an NBA job you wouldn’t be doing it until late April or into May. Don’t see what else he could’ve done if that was the path he chose. And it’s been 5 years, we can stop putting even 1% of the blame on JB. This is all on Howard.
This is a bad argument. If you left out every team with 3 losses you wouldn’t have enough teams to make 14. Look at the polls, the #14 team always has at least 3 losses.
This is one of the poorest attempts at humor I’ve seen in a while.
Hey this guys name is one letter away from a guy we hate, isn’t that funny!!!! A ten year old wouldn’t find this funny.
The team is 5-20 in its last 25 games. That’s beyond horrendous. I assume you’re trying to say that we suck for being fair weather fans. But there’s a big difference between fair weather fan and simply not wasting time and money on a team that mailed it in a while ago. Your post sounds whiny and you come off seeming like you feel superior to everyone who didn’t attend. Have fun if that’s your thing. But don’t crap on people making rational decisions. Me, I’d personally rather watch the rose bowl for 50th time.
Why is Nate Oates a non starter? Cause of how he operates? What? He’s the best candidate if we could get him. If you’re going to say he’s a sleazy human being, I will respond with I don’t care. We’ve had a coach for 5 years who punches people and threatened another coaches life on the court and kept his job because at the time he was winning. We can get off our high horse. This morality complex with UM fans is ridiculous. College sports are incredibly dirty and always has been, especially basketball.
Unpopular opinion and people can neg me, but you’re absolutely right. It’s nice to have him for depth but people saying this raises our floor by 3 wins is crazy. This guy was 2nd string at Indiana. To think he’s gonna step in and be the guy is optimistic at best. And you can’t just say, well he'll be relying on the run game when we don’t know how that’s going to go either with 5 new starters. If this is who we’re going into the season with I think we’ll be in trouble. Hope I’m wrong. Go Blue.
Agreed. The college way is much better. Would love to see the NFL do that but just start the possession at midfield instead of the 25.
Your post hasn’t aged well
Warde should be fired for his NIL stance alone. He’s crying about transformational over transactional, when I’m pretty sure he doesn’t work for free. How anybody can defend a person who refuses to join the modern era is beyond me. Yeah we just won a national title, but sometimes you win something despite a person, not because of them. And you’re actually defending a guy who uses the term pay for play. It’s pay for work. We can fall behind OSU and the other blue bloods very fast and sadly probably will if this is the university’s attitude.
So it’s ok to suck as long as we saw it coming. This isn’t his 1st year which is about the only reason your logic would make sense. You're either a contrarian or are just wearing blinders when it comes to Howard.
Man if you think calling someone a clown is below the belt, I would stay away from the game threads. And if you can watch this without thinking this is a clown show, you’re watching a different game than I am.
I almost feel like starting a new account just so I can downvote this twice. This is a Michigan blog. WTF.
I hope during the month off they were practicing plays for Edwards in the passing game, just for the title game. Plays we maybe didn’t want to use against Alabamas athletic linebackers. Been waiting for Edwards in the passing game all season. But like most have said we just need to stick to what we do, it’d just be nice to see a few plays designed better for Edwards in the passing game
Nice to have it on New Year’s Day and not New Year’s Eve. Wonder if that helped with the ratings at all. But then again Washington-Texas did worse than the games last year, so who knows. Great to see that the largest audience in years got to see Michigan roll the tide!!! Go Blue!!!!
If it was so rigged then why did the refs call offsides on the second attempt. Seems to me if they’re “rigging” the game they would’ve let that go. Maybe it’s just the refs are incompetent and bad at their jobs at times. But to say they’re rigging the game is just ridiculous.
Yeah, going for two after the penalty is nuts. They got lucky to get an offsides penalty on Dallas, but they definitely should’ve just kicked the EP on the 2nd attempt. Though on the 3rd attempt the play is there if Goff just throws a better pass.
Nobody is opting out of playoff games. People keep saying this and it has yet to happen, and it won’t. Players want to play in playoff games, they opt out of the other bowl games because they’re NOT playoff games. The playoffs will be fine. It’s the other games that are absolute jokes.
Crable didn’t get a penalty for late hit, his penalty was for hitting Smith too high. I believe he made a joke after the game about Troy Smith being 5 foot nothing.
You make fun of peoples lack of basketball knowledge in one sentence, and in the next sentence say they have the makings of a good team. What are you watching, cause I have to question your basketball knowledge saying that. What about this team screams “we’ve got something brewing here.”
Also, someone seeing a poorly coached team for 3 straight seasons now and making an observation of that on a message board isn’t a hater or out for blood. They're simply stating what they, and many of us without blinders on can see. We all hope it turns around and everything works out, but it clearly looks like that’s not what’s happening. And to say otherwise is ignoring the facts of what’s going on.
I was definitely broken from football at that time. At least we had basketball for a lot of those down years. Imagine if the football team hadn’t turned it around, how down in the dumps we would be having nothing to look forward to outside of hockey. Which I really don’t follow. Truly appreciate the last 3 seasons, they we desperately needed. Go Blue!!!
Well, everyone said this was the least interesting Final Four ever, but that was a hell of a game. I don’t care who’s playing, I just want a competitive hard fought close game, and that’s what we got.
ESPN is the worst
I only have two left. Texas and UCONN. I actually enjoy that my bracket has been pathetic, means a lot of chaos and mayhem. And that’s what the tournaments all about. I always root for the madness.
If Twill is the starter at the 4 next year. We’re in trouble.
Perfect analogy. The timeout is still infamous to this day. I wouldn’t trade the fab five to not have that memory.
Purdue did hang two banners this season. This is as embarrassing a loss as it gets. But they did hang two banners this year. Not that I actually wanna trade spots with them right now, as I would be deviated as a fan. But Purdue had a better season than Michigan.
I’m not busting out subs for this. Or the water gun.
Completely agree. When the tourney starts I will be fully amped and ready. But today will just feel like a sad dog meme watching the selections.
I’m with ya. I won’t be watching us in the NIT, but I will be consuming 12+ hours of madness all weekend.
I’m definitely rooting for the Harbaugh ending over the Hoke ending. But Harbaugh at least had a track record before Michigan. Juwan doesn’t. I sincerely hope it works out and he figures it out next season. I’m just becoming increasingly concerned that he will not, especially if his top three players leave. Hopefully I’m wrong. Go Blue.
I really hope you’re wrong about the Hoke vibes. But if Jett, Kobe, and Hunter leave, I fear this is correct. I love Michigan basketball and it sickens me we won’t be playing in the tournament. I hope we get everyone we need back. I hope they figure out a lot in this off-season, cause something never seemed right about this team. Go Blue
Nobody could take a charge like Jordan Morgan
Well that meme was a failure. Apparently copy and paste isn’t good enough. I guess I’m mgoblog meme illiterate. Never had a problem anywhere else. Oh well, Go Blue!!!
The only thing you can really say is this team couldn’t win in crunch time. Seems all we do in last second chances is high ball screen and go from there. That’s what we should be doing after the play that’s drawn up breaks down. Especially with 20 some seconds left on the clock to start. They definitely gave us some exciting games down the stretch, they just didn’t end well. Oh well. I guess you never know, they could make a run in the BTT. Go Blue!!!
Yeah frustrating game. The Auburn game isn’t going any better.
I agree with you mostly. I just hate watching 3 straight weeks of games that have no intrigue. Games that can only be mundane or annoying. But yeah, if that’s our new scheduling and the rest of college football schedules their non-conference this way, then that’s what we have to do. Still, it’s a lot more exciting playing Oklahoma or Texas than East Carolina.
Well I complain about weak non-conference scheduling so I guess I can’t complain about this. In a 12 team playoff, losses won’t be so damaging. Especially tough losses to good teams. And on the other hand a win will look massive. Excited for the match-up and Go Blue!!!
Music to my ears. Though I don’t think he would’ve beaten out Bryce Young two seasons ago. I’m glad he gets to have nightmares about Michigan. First OSU QB in quite a long time.
Fox is already drooling over all the extra commercials they can run. I hate changes to speed up the game. That’s fine for all the other sports. But football is an event that we only get a limited number of per season.