Yahoo: Partridge Tried Getting Rid of Evidence and Booster Partially Funded Stalions

Partridge could have very well found out when the "scandal" first broke, and started deleting files. At that point everyone knew what Stallions was doing.

"Questionable tactics"

iPhoning football games and the sidelines.  Soooo questionable. What he should have been doing is using a network of coaches who break down the signals and pass them around as friends.  THAT'S the proper way. (As if we're all chummy with other members of the conference...which we're CLEARLY not).

What we're actually still truly tslking about regarding "offenses" is still so fucking insane.

Damn straight. Something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_AV0TGoow

which ya got ?

how many do you have and how much are you selling them for?

what section and row we talking about partner?

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/m-fan-m-fan-ticket-thread

I oscillate between “whatever enjoy the games” and “we gon die.”

The fundamental two facts that I keep coming back to when trying to reconcile all of the various takes are:

1) Stalions was standing beside the OC when Michigan's offense was on the field, and standing by the DC when Michigan's defense was on the field.  Based on what other coaches have said, it's almost unthinkable that someone with Stalions' position would make the list of the limited number of people you have on the field, and doing so risks someone questioning whether he should actually be counted among the numbered staff, in which case Michigan would have had more than the maximum allowed.  Why was he doing this?  Why was he allowed to do this?  I find it very difficult to reconcile any explanation that Michigan didn't gain any advantage, or only gained a trivial advantage, when he was in the OC's and DC's ear on numerous occasions caught on film.

2) Based on the commissioner's account, which has not been contradicted, all or almost all of the other Big10 coaches were very upset about this, with several of them getting quite emotional.  Then all or almost all of the ADs were upset as well, though (as one would expect) they voiced their concerns in more measured terms, with less emotion. The idea that this was because of some vast conspiracy seems to me to be utterly delusional and without any merit.  These are real, live, flesh and blood, successful people, with homes and families and friends.  They're competitive, yes, but to believe that all of them colluded to pretend to be upset over something they really thought was trivial, beggars belief.  And the motivation just doesn't make any sense.  OSU dominated the Big10 for 15+ years, and these schools never got together to try to take them down-- individual coaches did things (like Maryland waiting until the week OSU played them to report Chase Young for accepting a loan), but there was nothing coordinated.  What's more, Michigan has only been dominating for 2+ years; there's just no way other teams have built up resentment at Michigan's success.  If anything, some of them have to be secretly celebrating that OSU isn't steamrolling the whole league anymore.  Some of them may have a bit of an axe to grind with Harbaugh for consistently testing the boundaries of what's permissible, but I simply don't believe they would hate him enough to willfully lie and misrepresent themselves in order to get him into trouble.  So the fundamental question is: Why were all of these coaches and ADs so upset?  Again, I can't reconcile that level of reaction with the notion that Michigan didn't gain any advantage, or gained only minimal advantage, from Stalions' operation.  There's a limit to how upset you can be about another team breaking a rule, if they didn't gain anything from it.  Many of the Big10 coaches had been discussing how successful Michigan was at sign stealing over the last 2+ years, before they had any reason to believe Michigan was doing anything wrong; it's possible that Michigan gained so much of an advantage, that opposing coaches were calling each other and asking what the heck was going on. 

Any proposed explanation for what was going on needs to address both of these facts, and most of the explanations I've seen don't.  The explanations I've seen almost all focus on the mechanics of how the operation was alleged to have worked; I think it's way more significant to focus on the outcome first.  Before trying to solve a murder, you first need to be sure that a murder took place.  If this is a "no harm, no foul" situation, then I don't think it matters that much what the NCAA finds in terms of how the operation was run; there's just a hard limit on how bad any punishment could be.  But while a lot of people seem to be taking comfort in Coach Prime and other notable figures claiming that sign stealing has minimal benefit, I don't think any of those people understand what can be accomplished with 10 games' worth of film, broken down and fed into a database, and then analyzed using standard statistical methods, or maybe better yet, Machine Learning.  Ultimately, I think we can pretty well determine the answer to whether there was real harm or not by getting the answers to the two questions I posed above: why was Stalions in the coordinators' ears on gameday, and why were the other coaches and ADs in the Big10 so pissed off, to the point of demanding immediate action?

I think this is the point where I accept that something is indeed rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark and just brace for any future impact. 

Whatever, they can't retroactively take away how beating OSU felt even if those wins are wiped off the books. 

Still possible Partridge didnt know about the scouting but tried to destroy evidence once Stallions was busted.

Too bad we can't pick up some SEC bagmen in the portal. Like we scoop up Nolan and a bagman from A&M. 

This times a million. It's literally the most beneficial cheat you can use and no one seems to care about it. Stealing signs doesn't win national championships, paying all the best recruits to come to your school does (except for Texas A&M)

Yep I still don't understand how all the athletes at Bama drove brand new Dodge Chargers even though they come from families that can't afford it.   You go out to the football players parking lot and every one there had new cars.  Or how you can pay players $50000 to commit to a school. Or have athletes take fake classes and there schools haven't got any punishments.   I am not saying we don't deserve something but dam how do all these schools seem to get less trouble then we have gotten so far.  

Uncle T is probably a rich parent, so it still kind of tracks?

...to be replaced by the Rich Uncle theory.

No reason it can be both. 

Salient points that should not be forgotten. At its core, the "crimes" are barely that, if they even qualify. Congrats, schools and organizations, you have successfully allowed a political hit job to manufacture a scandal.

Yeah, I don't even think this changes much once you take a step back. 

Cool, Stalions got some funding from a non-staff member. Uncle T? A family member, by chance?

Partridge deleting files is dumb, but if he didn't know about it prior to that, then that's all it is. Gotta let him go if they have evidence of that. Also, it helps that he wasn't on staff for 2021 and 2022.