Wisconsin Snowflakes - The Coaching

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 15th, 2020 at 4:00 PM

This will be the thread for takes regarding the overall coaching performance.

UMxWolverines

November 14th, 2020 at 11:07 PM ^

I have been watching since I was 8 in 2002 and this is without a doubt the worst team this program has ever put on the field even through Hoke and Rich Rod. What an absolute disaster. How anyone will still defend Harbaugh this week is beyond me, and you know there will be people on here doing it. 

 

lhglrkwg

November 15th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^

My only inkling to defend him (and I suspect others are the same) is that I haven't fully left the 'denial' stage of grief. Or maybe it's bargaining

Like no, this can't be reality, right? When Harbaugh was hired in 2015 we were all so sure this was our path back to being elite and beating OSU. Is this really where we are? It's tough to come to the acceptance that Harbaugh is failing

cactus

November 14th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^

I mean just what the fuck are we doing here?  Harbaugh can’t coach his fucking mask to stay on his face.  Can it get any worse on either side of the ball?

/looks at Rutgers

oh god.

SecretAgentMayne

November 14th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^

This is lower for me than 2014 vs Minnesota with the Shane Morris debacle. At least by that pint we knew Hoke was awful. This hurts so much worse because Harbaugh was supposed to come home and build Michigan into an elite machine. And it appeared that he was the first two seasons...and it came crashing the fuck down, of course.

Thanks for nothing Jim Hokebaugh

kehnonymous

November 15th, 2020 at 12:06 AM ^

Holistically speaking, the Shane Morris debacle was hands down worse, in my opinion.

That said, relative to expectations, you have a defensible point and the fact that you do is just so utterly damning.  I will be disappointed if Harbaugh is still the coach next year, but... I sadly won’t be surprised.  And it s fair to wonder if the weight of our hidebound tradition and Michigan Man culture is so oppressive that even Saban or Swinney wouldn’t be able to succeed here.

One Armed Bandit

November 14th, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^

I ask this question with all sincerity but I understand if I get negged.

 Is it legally possible, buyouts be damned, that Jim Harbaugh could hypothetically be the head coach of the New York Jets by Tuesday? If Harbaugh left tomorrow and Gase got fired on Monday, could this be possible?

 Just asking.

CMHCFB

November 15th, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^

Not saying there is a realistic chance of it happening, but buyouts are generally structured in a manner that If the coach takes a new position, his buyout would be reduced by the amount they are paid for the new position.   This a generalized, I don’t know how Harbaugh’s contract is structured. 

Absorbine Sr.

November 14th, 2020 at 11:31 PM ^

It’s all part of his wonderful “quirky” and “eccentric” personality that we’ve heard so much about. 
 

When you win big games and titles you can do these weird little things and your fans love you for it. See: Phil Jackson. When you preform like Harbaugh has over the past several seasons, you just look like a clown. 

4th phase

November 14th, 2020 at 11:11 PM ^

In general I think sports fans are way too quick to say “fire everyone”, I mean think back to the fire Beilein threads and fire Bakich threads. People even wanted to get rid of Juwan and get Beilein back at one point last season. So generally I try to stay more level headed and figure out ways to fix the issues without firing everyone, because a constant revolving door of coaches makes you the Cleveland Browns. But yeah, this is pathetic. I think we have to fire everyone. It’s just not working. Don Brown can’t call a game anymore. Gattis hasn’t grown sufficiently as a play caller and installed game plans that make it easy on the qb. The whole team lacks discipline and takes dumb penalties. The whole league bitches about What Zordich teaches and we’re getting burned by it right now. You have to fire him if you want to get the benefit of the doubt like other teams get. Nua hasn’t done enough. 

Greg McMurtry

November 14th, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^

Nua hasn’t done shit, I wanted Brown fired years ago. Not sure WTF Gattis is doing half the time. Zordich:hard to say. I mean the corners have been good until this year, so who knows. Warinner is good—I mean 4 new oline starters, then both tackles get injured. Can’t put that on coaching. LBs have looked completely lost—could be because they’re getting out of position due to shitty dline play IDK. Dax has been good Hawkins not good.

Receivers are open but can’t hit em. TEs look awful and IDK WTF they’re trying to do w/running game. Cade had that one drive. ??? I’m just rambling.

Absorbine Sr.

November 14th, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^

My coaching concerns:

Offense can’t run or pass. 

Defense can’t stop the run or pass.

Awful game/clock management.  

Players constantly making dumb mistakes and committing bad penalties. 

Can’t develop a quarterback to achieve even a moderate level of proficiency and consistency. 

Same with running back.

Stubborn staff that has no imagination or flexibility to adapt to in game changes and just keeps running the same plays even after it’s been shown they don’t work.

Players look totally demoralized and have little desire to play for this staff.

Constant inability in press conferences and other public statement to acknowledge that anything is wrong.

Anything I’m missing?

ThadMattasagoblin

November 14th, 2020 at 11:13 PM ^

Hockey has 4 first round players on its roster. Basketball has the top class in the country. The football team looks like they throw darts on a dart board with the players they have. Vincent Gray, Josh Ross, Taylor Upshaw, Julius Welshoff etc. aren't Michigan level players.

tigerd

November 14th, 2020 at 11:13 PM ^

Harbaugh should not live to see another day as the head coach at the University of Michigan. Sadly he will and will probably coach next year, and will probably get a contract extension because we have a weak athletic director who wants Jim to retire as the coach of this team. It's time for the big donors to step to the plate and demand change. This cant go on any longer. This team is worse than anything during the Richrod or Hoke eras. They are soft and coached poorly.