Wisconsin chancellor supposedly negotiated the deal between M and BIG
Rumor has it the Chancelor of Wisconsin played a big role in both parties coming to terms.
Supposedly after a heated head of universities call yesterday.
She is apparently a major bad ass. Her background is in law, evidentiary law , athletics etc.
Apparently she made quite an impression on all involved.
That’s all I know.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:06 PM ^
Pubic perception it looks like we just bent the knee and if that ends up being what happened, we can expect NCAA/B1G to come after Harbaugh again next year since he likes to talk about sharing revenue.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Michigan gets the non-existent B1G investigation to go away (unless more is found by The NCAA so nothing really goes away) and The B1G gets their 3 game suspension of Jim, which just so happens to coincide with two of the hardest games on the schedule and a Maryland team that I refuse to overlook regardless of how they played against any other school. It's not a cakewalk when it's the week before OSU and focus is always gone while looking ahead.
If we assume that they didn't provide evidence of upper-staff knowing, the threat from the commissioner to ban them from the B1GCG has to have been there. Get banned from that and now the Playoff Committee can give an actual reason for leaving you out. Etc.
So they take the deal. That's the best case scenario for UM here. The alternative is that they have something bad and UM settled. Though, I'm not sure the wording supports that and they have to know it will still be used against them if that was the case so I think they knew they'd lose the TRO and the B1G threatening bans they'd 100% get the votes for is what UM is trying to avoid.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
Doesn't stop the ncaa either. This accomplishes nothing, imo.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:04 PM ^
No source info at all on this claim, nor are you claiming a standing/basis for 'knowing' that such a rumor holds any water. Message board malpractice.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:06 PM ^
It was Barzini all along.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
This whole situation has me sick to my stomach. I don't know what to believe in anymore.
I know I love our team and players. I just hope we can rally the troops and win out.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
UW Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin was the dean of UCLA Law when I was on the faculty for a couple of years. I can confirm that she is indeed a powerhouse.
How she convinced M to hand the Big Ten a complete victory before the hearing, I have no idea. Not what I would have advised (though of course I wasn't privy to those discussions, and I'm sure they had their reasons).
November 16th, 2023 at 10:54 PM ^
Wow, we are so fucking weak that UW’s chancellor can now dictate to us on how to run our football program? This is worse than I thought.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:08 PM ^
WTF did she negotiate? Unless P-Titty comes out Sunday morning and says, "Suspension over, Go Blue, FU OSU!" all she did was negotiating us to STFU while the B1G doesn't have to defend their overreach here.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
Frankly, if that's what she negotiated she excellent at it. Normally, both sides needs to get something.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:05 PM ^
No Conference Championship ban? That is all I got.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
We look soft…as hell right now. It’s go hard, or go home, and I like going hard.. more than going home. Unless all that’s coming from this BS is a three game Harbaugh suspension Michigan should run every bit of this through the court system like Kansas. This equals complete demolishing of UM football teams Image now about to be labeled cheaters by everyone.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:39 PM ^
By capitulating to Pettiti and settling this case and accepting the three game Harbaugh regular season suspension, Michigan has the appearance of admitting guilt by Connor Stallion's actions.
Yes, you are correct that the team could be labeled as cheaters. This is a lose/lose situation for the University as well as the football program.
What happened to this high priced law firm out of DC they hired? I thought that Michigan was going to fight this to the bitter end. So much for that.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
What I want to know is what did Michigan get in return to justify what appears on the surface to be a capitulation to the unjustified, immoral, and illogical punishment levied by the Big Ten. This result has strongly damaged Michigan's valuable reputation, both in sports, and the overall brand. Michigan would be stupid and weak to just "let this go" without some sort of strategy to repair the damage. Winning out would solve a lot. In the short term. But in the absence of that, I hope that President Ono has assembled a "War Cabinet" to solve this long term. I'm really pissed.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
So am I supposed to love her or hate her?
November 16th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
Michigan v. Everyone, and she isn't Michigan.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
The only negotiation I can see from this would be for the B1G to relent next week and let Harbaugh coach against Ohio Slappy University.
Not sure what was negotiated otherwise.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:36 PM ^
This is my hope. Michigan takes the L today and the big10 takes the L next week. Something like the big10 coming out and saying, in light of new information we are reducing the suspension to two games.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Let's hope.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:43 PM ^
It's a long shot but I wonder out loud here if Fox Sports can put any pressure on Petitti to agree to let Jim Harbaugh be on the sideline against OH State.
We live in world where stranger things can happen so it this point, anything is possible.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:17 PM ^
We must be told that the judge would not grant the TRO. No TRO then no coach on sideline. It isn’t worth spending money to fight this then. I was hoping he could be on the sideline for the game. We will need to be there for him.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:29 PM ^
Worse than that. No TRO and now the conference has the support to ban you from The B1GCG. Get banned from that and now the Playoff Committee has a reason to leave you out, even if just inference of guilt by way of media and B1G's stance toward you.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
How so? Commish already has dealt the punishment, coming back with additional suspension with no new evidence doesn't seem likely, especially if a deal was struck. Let's not get too conspiracy minded. B1g never even Saber rattled missing CCG. Reported specifically that didn't want the players to suffer.
Situation sucks all around, but this outcome seems super unlikely.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
Wasn’t worth the $$$? Serious?
November 16th, 2023 at 6:17 PM ^
She did all that from her kitchen?
hi oh! (I’ll see myself out)
November 16th, 2023 at 6:18 PM ^
As JUB keeps saying, "nobody knows anything". Maybe the B1G has evidence of coaches above Coor Stalllions being involved. Maybe M cut a deal to ensure postseason eligibility. Maybe M has a binder and maybe they don't. The thing is that the damage has been done and no one in the general public wants to hear anything about what the other schools are doing. The ohio/Buttgers/Purdoo-doo thing went over like a lead balloon even though it seems worse than what Cor Stallllions was doing. Maybe M has decided to accept the B1G punishment, win the B1G and national titles, and let everyone forget about all of this crap or at least let it fade a little. Then, they can unleash the full power of the binder, a little at a time, while continuing to replenish it with information from private investigators.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:26 PM ^
Maybe the B1G has evidence of coaches above Coor Stalllions being involved.
I know you're spitballing ideas in the absence of information, but seems highly unlikely that if the B1G has such evidence, they would have stopped where they did.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^
There is no binder with anything that amounts to shit. We know this because if there was, Michigan would I have used it.
The idea that there was ever some magic catalog with rock solid evidence of all the evils in which Michigans rivals have participated is fantastical thinking.
The idea that Michigan is “replenishing the binder” behind the scenes is just conspiracy theory shit. Bureaucrats did what they do, which is the least work possible. Hopefully Michigan decides to bail on the Big Ten as soon as they can, but there isn’t some secret plan in place to use the magic bullet.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
There wasn’t any deal. Michigan didn’t get anything.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:23 PM ^
What exactly were the terms, because from my vantage point B1G imposed its will, I'm trying to see an upside for M and Harbaugh and so far none is visible. Hard to laud anyone when there is little tangible evidence of any real accomplishment, at least as far as this situation.
My sister has a bunch of diplomas from some major institutions, doesn't make her a major bad ass (or even a minor one).
November 16th, 2023 at 7:23 PM ^
How about this for wild speculation:
UM figured they were not likely to win in court tomorrow.
In the negotiations with the B1G, UM says "drop this suspension or we are going scorched earth against the 6-9 teams that also did in-person scouting." The B1G retorts "do that and we'll levy further punishments into the postseason."
To avoid additional escalation that would drag the conference further through the mud in the eyes of the college football world, the UW Chancellor steps in to get everyone to stand down. B1G agrees to back off of the psycho punishments they were considering, and UM agrees to live with what has been dealt them so far.
Still not sure I'm happy with the result, but the scenario is possible. Or not.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
So the B1G won and Michigan lost? Escalation would have been better for Michigan. The only person losing here is Michigan. If Michigan went down swinging, they would have made everyone look bad instead of just themselves.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
If Michigan brought forth evidence of other teams doing advanced scouting and the response from the B1G was to punish Michigan further, the B1G would have huge problems.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
In the negotiations with the B1G, UM says "drop this suspension or we are going scorched earth against the 6-9 teams that also did in-person scouting." The B1G retorts "do that and we'll levy further punishments into the postseason."
I don’t get that. So if osu snitched they get off Scot free, but Michigan snitches to ‘ preserve the integrity of the sport’ they get punished for that?
November 16th, 2023 at 6:32 PM ^
Wait - so maybe 🤔 We have figured out a way for Jim to be back on the sidelines for OSU. They punished Michigan because he is the head coach but after a win this weekend Moore will have been the head coach for 3 games this year - so they can bring Harbaugh back as an temporary HC while Moore takes the University’s punishment as the acting HC. And we will announce this - 5 minutes before the game…
November 16th, 2023 at 6:53 PM ^
lmao now this is some next level thinking, I like it
November 16th, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
People have been saying "clever work around" since Jim first got suspended
November 16th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^
Nice. How about they make John Harbaugh or Jack Harbaugh Coach for a game?
November 16th, 2023 at 8:36 PM ^
Jack would be the shit!
November 16th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Drop news of a massive Harbaugh extension tomorrow, and I feel completely different about this (and the headlines shift to a power move by Michigan, instead of bending over).
November 16th, 2023 at 6:47 PM ^
This will cause more media shit show. The only saving grace is announcing that we are leaving the BIG10. That is the direct fuck you to BIG10 who we “were” fighting against.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
It will cause people in the media to flip out. But instead of looking weak and guilty after bending the knee, it changes to "we closed the book on that ridiculous shit so we could get moving on bigger things -- like this $100M extension that's just been agreed to".
November 16th, 2023 at 6:46 PM ^
"MSU's a pimp. They never could've out-fought Santa Ono. But I didn't know until this day that it was Wisconsin all along..."
November 16th, 2023 at 6:48 PM ^
This is my best-case take on the situation. Jim made the calculation that this team can beat Maryland and Ohio State without him on the sidelines on game day. This deal assures that if that happens, he'll be on the sidelines for the Big Ten championship game and the playoff games after that.
He has confidence in Sherrone, the staff, and the team to take care of business and get through these next 9 days and 2 games, and believes that this decision is the one that gives us the best chance to win it all.
No smoking gun, no new evidence, just a clear calculation by a great football coach not ruled by emotion or appearances. Trust Harbaugh, trust the team, Go Blue!
November 16th, 2023 at 7:12 PM ^
That’s my take as well, but I think Pettiti and the B1G should be punished for their skeazy gamesmanship and disingenuous narrative. So, fingers crossed. 🤞
November 16th, 2023 at 7:40 PM ^
Nothing will happen to them, they won. The B1G conceded they won't fuck us over anymore than they already have on this particular issue. That sounds great until you look behind and you see your reputation and ability to compete has been compromised.
OSU dodges Harbaugh during the game and we should be grateful? No.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^
Sadly, I agree that nothing will happen. I don't have a lot of confidence that the B1G won't fuck us again. There's a lack of both sound judgment and integrity on their end.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:36 PM ^
Their word is shit. They leaked information, timed things to maximize Michigan's pain. They were shady and petty. Fuck them, they're worthless. They couldn't even walk back any of their bullshit claims about player safety or anything.
When you win, you're more likely to keep doing what you're doing. So the B1G will do this again and they will have no shame about it.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
You don’t get terrorist to stop attacking by giving into there demands.
You don’t get kidnappers to stop kidnapping by paying the ransom
You don’t get bullies to stop bullying by giving them your fruit cup
This is a pretty universal rule threw all aspects of life. The only thing the Big10 and media learned is that Michigan can be bullied and will give into whatever demands are made if it thinks it will get them out of there current predicament with zero thought towards future encounters or damage done.