Wisconsin chancellor supposedly negotiated the deal between M and BIG
Rumor has it the Chancelor of Wisconsin played a big role in both parties coming to terms.
Supposedly after a heated head of universities call yesterday.
She is apparently a major bad ass. Her background is in law, evidentiary law , athletics etc.
Apparently she made quite an impression on all involved.
That’s all I know.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:04 PM ^
Agreed, highly unlikely that this is an attempt to keep known worse stuff from surfacing. The B1G has shown no inclination to cut Michigan slack. And I'd bet if there were something quite bad, it would surface anyway. Further, knowing Michigan they would likely take action themselves.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:31 PM ^
Seemingly every other school in the B1G and two-thirds of the media were screaming at Petitti and the B1G to DO SOMETHING, and the B1G felt it necessary to assert its authority sooner than later. the Ohio and Michigan States will whine that whatever punishment meted out was insufficient, but this gets Michigan and Petitti beyond this in the quickest way possible. It's done. It's survivable.
Just Beat Ohio, and it is all behind us, as far as the B1G is concerned.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^
Did our lawyers quit or something? How is that B1G statement part of a negotiated resolution?
November 17th, 2023 at 5:54 AM ^
Lawyers/law firm cannot quit without court permission on pending litigation. They must file a motion to withdraw and serve their client and other parties, other plaintiffs and defendants. The Court has a hearing and does not have to let the law firm withdraw. Or, the law firm, the client, and all the parties stipulate to the withdrawal and submit an order allowing it to the judge. Who still has discretion whether to sign the order, schedule a hearing to get more information, or just deny the request.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:33 PM ^
you forgot to include “end of transmission,” but great post!
November 16th, 2023 at 8:33 PM ^
I’m sure she is really impressive. But, how tough do you need to be to get Warde and, apparently, Santa to back down? Maybe she made a mean face?
November 17th, 2023 at 5:56 AM ^
Neither Warde nor Santo are parties and have no standing to move the needle.
The regents are in complete control. They can listen to whatever they want.
There is no one election shake up for a board of 8 with 2 elected every 2 years for 8 year terms.
(There is a bill introduced to have the UM, MSU and WSU regent/trustees appointed by the governor like the other public state universities.)
November 17th, 2023 at 7:27 AM ^
No, please! Don't want this clown governor being allowed to do anything, let alone more.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:37 PM ^
Inside sources close to the program have told me that the tooth fairy doesn't exist. Big if true
November 16th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
Pics or it didn't happen.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
Too bad the negotiation could not include reducing Harbaugh suspension from 3 games to 2 games. I think this has little effect and was mostly up to Harbaugh.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:14 PM ^
Don’t post a declarative headline and then say “rumor has it.”
November 16th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^
All the speculation on this board that Michigan has something to hide suggests that this is a horrible deal, unless the University is actively seeking opportunity to leave the conference.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:26 PM ^
All the speculation on this board that Michigan has something to hide suggests that this is a horrible deal, unless the University is actively seeking opportunity to leave the conference.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:59 PM ^
Bottom line, B1G has regulatory powers and the support of every other team in the conference.........and lawyers.
Michigan has.......lawyers.
The B1G is guaranteed to be capable of making life extremely difficult for Michigan in the near to medium term, most likely long term as well.
At best, Michigan thwarts some portion of that, but very much TBD how much and how quickly, the rest they will have to eat if there is no clear legal remedy to whatever bullshit the B1G decides to dish out.
Getting a cease fire for now is likely the smartest move.....coaching 1-2 more games this year, risking a place in the BTC game, and the potential for longer term problems are not worth it.
Not sure if there is a long game to be had here, but eating the penalty this year and working behind the scenes to figure out an exit strategy in the next few years to leave a conference that has turned on you seems like a better approach.
As it currently stands, going all scorched earth promises to burn Michigan more than anybody.
Perhaps 2-3-5 years from now we'll get an announcement that M has a better situation worked out elsewhere, but who knows?
November 16th, 2023 at 10:36 PM ^
I still don't see it. Dropping a 12-0 Michigan from the Big Ten Conference finals does what exactly for the Big Ten? Can the Big Ten sneak a 12-1 Ohio State into the CFP's? Still a lot of unknow factors with who wins and who loses but I think the Big Ten is on the outside looking in of the CFP, so the Big Ten is really going to screw themselves out of that money?
The question is, then what do you do with Michigan? If the Big Ten were to hold them out of the Championship game, how an earth can you send them to a New Years Day 6 bowl?
All of this for a conference which doesn't even have an investigative arm? Maybe this makes a little bit more sense if the NCAA had already dropped an NOA on the university, but they haven't!
This just feels like a total surrender on Michigan's part. By accepting this deal, the university might as well just come out and say, 'We cheated.' because you can't scrub that stain off of the program.
November 17th, 2023 at 12:51 AM ^
I'm not saying I'm happy about it or that it's right, it sucks.
What they probably threatened to do with Michigan is hold them out of any postseason..... And then probably threaten to scrutinize and penalize them as much as humanly possible upon the completion of the investigation, and for whatever else they can get their hands on. I mean they got us for cheeseburgers earlier this year, what are they going to do over the next 2 3 4 or 5 years?
If we don't make the media strum go away it's going to take the program a lot more than if we shut this aspect of it down. When the NCAA investigation concludes that this is a big nothing Burger, that's when we hopefully are cleansed.
In the near term the B1G holds all the cards, and that's just a sad fact. We can't just ditch the conference overnight, as much as I would love to, akin to biting off your nose to spite your face.
The Big ten could continue to penalize us to its heart's content, we could spend a trillion dollars on lawyers and only block some portion of that, probably not for years to come.
With all the cards on the table at the moment, at least for this hand, the B1G is not who you want to bet against.
I do sincerely hope there's a long game here and that postseason or sometime next year Michigan announces they found a lucrative way to exit the conference, but again I think that's unfortunately unlikely. Unless you could take two to three top teams out of the Big ten with you to the ACC you're doing more harm to yourself than you are the Big ten by making that move.
November 17th, 2023 at 10:00 AM ^
I think you hit the nail on the head here - Pettiti was certain to continue to try to fuck Michigan's season no matter what the judge said today, and there was no guarantee that court was going to go favorably.
Now, M is eating the suspension that they'd have been likely to eat anyways, and they've rendered TP irrelevant for the rest of the football season/post-season. I choose to look at that as a win.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:19 PM ^
Michigan doesn't need a B1G championship to get into the playoffs, so who cares about that. An undefeated team with a win against the #2 team in the country is making it in. It's also in the best interest of the conference to have Michigan get into the playoffs.
You're arguing that Michigan should just accept any and all penalties and say thank you. What is to stop this conference from trying to fuck Michigan in the future? They've bent over backwards for OSU constantly and undermined Michigan this year with their bullshit. Michigan should make this fight as painful as possible, not even to win, but to give the B1G pause for next time. Do they really want to fight a bitter, painful, bloody fight or would they rather play nice with Michigan? Now they know they can do whatever the fuck they want.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
Arguably (depending on what happens elsewhere) this agreement actually gives 11-1 Michigan a slightly greater chance to get into the playoffs with a close loss to OSU ("after all, they looked like one of the best teams in the country, even without their head coach for half their games, including the two biggest ones - imagine what they can be at full strength!").
Win and we're in. Already punished for whatever transgressions may have occurred, moving on.
November 17th, 2023 at 8:49 AM ^
No way. People have already been screaming about Michigan's strength of schedule and at 11-1, the only notable win is against Penn State who can only hang their hat on beating West Virginia.
November 17th, 2023 at 10:03 AM ^
what I think you're overlooking here is that the CFP has hinted at the notion that they'd be unlikely to consider a team eligible for ranking if the team had been ruled ineligible for post-season play by its conference or the NCAA...if TP would have found a way to keep M out of the B1GCG, it's possible the CFP would have refused to put Michigan in the playoff even if they had a perfect record. M's acceptance of the deal has removed that possibility from consideration.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
Know how?
November 16th, 2023 at 10:27 PM ^
Cheddar
November 16th, 2023 at 11:03 PM ^
Good on her, but the fact remains that he's not coaching against OSU.
Not good enough. And I want Petitti to be living in a trashcan.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:59 AM ^
That would be too good for him.