Who should be SM hires for the coordinator jobs?
Since Moore is the HC who should be his hires for the open positions? From what is being said Newsome is going to be the OL Coach and others probably stay where they are except for some responsibilities becoming different. Anyone have ideas about who is a good OC and DC? Heard the Ravens LB coach is another guy in the MM and JM realm.
I might get negged for this because people still don't think Moore should be the HC but he is so let's talk about some good hires from him to bring along.
January 25th, 2024 at 9:23 PM ^
Wasn’t Mike the one who destroyed RGIII? We don’t want him anywhere near Orji.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:08 PM ^
I really would love it if Jay Harbaugh wanted to stay in college coaching. Dude seems to be the most inter-changeable position coach ever - safeties were terrific this year, awesome at special teams, he just really gives a head coach some leeway in their other hires.
I wonder if he'd make a fine DC? I bet he has Minter's stuff down cold.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^
perfect DC since he did come from the ravens tree working for Uncle!
January 25th, 2024 at 2:12 PM ^
We're dreaming, right?
OC: Joe Brady
DC: Wink Martindale
Give all the remaining assistants a significant bump in salary to stay because Wink and Joe would be in A2 for a year or two at the most. That's worked out okay on the DC side recently.
January 25th, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^
Wink was great on Tic-Tac-Dough.... but the man is 90 years old, he's probably not interested in learning a new career.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:12 PM ^
Campbell OC and clinkscale DC
January 25th, 2024 at 6:46 PM ^
And an instant downvote? Seriously he cant even be in the discussion on this board? Bumped you back up Owosso. Crazy the guy is in the system for 3 years and was the National Champs (co) DC and most are "Nah hard pass". What is the thinking?
January 25th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^
Back of the money truck to Larry Foote to be LB/DC. (either co-DC with Clink or full and give Clink a different title/raise)
Rehire Partridge as S/Special Teams Coach.
Newsome to OL Coach.
Joe Moorehead to OC (I have no opinions on this as of now)
TE coach...I guess Nick Sheridan?
January 25th, 2024 at 3:28 PM ^
This would be good. We need to give Moore the best of the best and every resource to succeed. Yes Michigan, that means pony the fuck up on staff and PLAYERS
January 25th, 2024 at 3:54 PM ^
Yes on the Larry Foote idea..yes yes yes.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:30 PM ^
I was afraid that Ohio State would get Joe Moorhead as their OC. But they did not.
Joe Moorhead > BOB. We've seen it with our own two eyes.
January 25th, 2024 at 6:48 PM ^
Yep I would pay whatever. Put him with the Midas touch Oline GURU -Moore and we are back in business.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:31 PM ^
Greg Roman for OC. Long-term ties to Harbaugh, and he went to the same high school as me.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:53 PM ^
Lol, just asked about Greg Roman without seeing the post above me...which is getting negged.
Would love to know why it's totally off the table.
January 25th, 2024 at 3:01 PM ^
Because he sucks as an OC that is why he was fired by the Ravens. Or they gave him the option to resign. If you can't have an offense that is successful with Lamar Jackson then you need to go. He isn't innovative enough and is old and hates recruiting. Which is a major no no for any hire at Michigan.
January 25th, 2024 at 3:15 PM ^
He's 51. He's not too old to be an OC at all.
I'll accept the rest of your response.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:00 PM ^
If 51 is old then call me Miles Davis.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:12 PM ^
Wow. It's true Miles.
That means he was only like 35 when he was Jim's OC at Stanford. I don't know if I should be mortified or impressed.
I'll be both!
BTW - no thank you to any Greg Roman ideas. I'm curious if Jim staffs him up somewhere on his Chargers crew tho.
January 25th, 2024 at 9:31 PM ^
With Jackson hurt everyone other game . He built that O and even John Harbaugh himself gave him credit
January 25th, 2024 at 2:53 PM ^
They need to fight hard to retain Minter. Michigan brings back a ton of talent on the defensive side; they could easily have a top 5 defense or better again next year if they find a way to bring Minter back. You would have to get pretty creative to fight off Harbaugh and the Chargers -- he obviously wants to be a head coach sooner rather than later so you would have to convice him the staying in college will benefit him long term. I'm not conviced that Warde is the guy who can make that sale.
On the offensive side, it feels like you need to find some experience. With Harbaugh gone, there's approximately 1 year of OC/offensive play calling experience on the entire coaching staff.
I know the prevailing sentiment appears to be that retaining the "culture" is more than enough to make up for any lack of coaching experience, recruiting, NIL, etc, but I'm at little apprehensive to throw 100% our our eggs into the "culture" basket.
January 25th, 2024 at 2:56 PM ^
There is no path to keeping Minter unless everyone is wrong about Minter and Harbaugh wanting to stay as a pair.
January 25th, 2024 at 6:52 PM ^
To be fair they all said Harbaugh was a cheater but now he is going to the NFL nobody uses that label or says a word about it anymore. Nobody writes an article about Chargers hiring such a shameful cheater and the head of the biggest football scandal ever. Strange I wonder what happened that once he put a Chargers cap on he wasnt that guy anymore? Hmm curious.
January 25th, 2024 at 7:27 PM ^
I've seen both suspensions referenced in articles about him, his legacy, etc. The narrative has softened significantly, but it's almost always mentioned that he was suspended this year.
January 25th, 2024 at 3:05 PM ^
Is there something out there saying Minter wants to be a HC in the next couple of years?
I think as of now he truly likes being a great DC and is great with the Xand Os and game planning. But those don't always make a good HC. Maybe Minter is a great HC in the future I have no idea but if Minter is wanting to go to the NFL then it would take a hell of a lot of money to keep him at Michigan. Money Michigan won't pay to keep him as he can get 2-3 mill in the NFL and I can't see Michigan paying him 4 mill or more
January 25th, 2024 at 3:17 PM ^
Assuming Harbaugh wants Minter in LA, how fast would his head explode because Spanos wouldn't pay enough for his preferred DC?
January 25th, 2024 at 3:21 PM ^
This was probably something that was already discussed as a part of Harbaugh agreeing to take the job.
January 25th, 2024 at 3:27 PM ^
How about getting negged for using initials. Posters who are too lazy to spell a name are a big pet peeve. And not wanting Sherrone as the head coach is enough of a reason to neg you. Wanting to throw away the culture they’ve built over the last 3-4 years is mind boggling to me.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^
Spank me harder daddy
January 25th, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^
Throw the bank at Minter. If he still leaves, Clink is up.
On offense, get a coach who can run a balanced attack that combined aspects of the existing ball-control power running offense with a bit more dynamic passing. By doing so, the offense should be able to be a bit more productive while also (in time) making the offense harder to stop since defenses won’t be able to stack the box as much.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:18 PM ^
I'd reach out to Brian Griese for OC. He's done a great job in SF as QB coach.
January 25th, 2024 at 4:28 PM ^
DC Mattison or English
OC Borges or Debord
January 25th, 2024 at 4:31 PM ^
You from Ohio State?
January 25th, 2024 at 6:54 PM ^
Hey at least investigations from PI's would drop to somewhere around 0 percent.
January 25th, 2024 at 5:04 PM ^
Wonder if Brian Griese will be interested in coming back as the OC/QB coach. He is interviewing for Saints' OC, may not like recruiting.
January 25th, 2024 at 5:27 PM ^
He’s a pretty affable guy I could see him doing well in recruiting, coordinators don’t have as many recruiting responsibilities as the position coaches do, also hire Courtney Morgan as TE Coach
January 25th, 2024 at 6:21 PM ^
But we have a QB coach. One that was loved by JJ, Jadyn Davis and his family, and Carter Smith as well. Seems like letting him go would have some negative repercussions
January 25th, 2024 at 5:32 PM ^
I just got my NATIONAL CHAMPIONS hat from MDen today! I still can’t believe it
what are we talking about again?
January 25th, 2024 at 5:42 PM ^
Moore is going to have to balance out what is best for continuity with what is best for the long term success of the team.
From the defensive side of the ball, I would love for Minter to return but I believe he will go with Jim. With that being said, it sounds like the logical thing would be to either promote Clink or Elston. Something tells me they may promote both to Co-DC but with Clink as the main guy (go with the youth movement)
As for the OC, I honest don't think it's Hart. The cold reality is that he has never been more than a RB coach and the move to OC is a BIG jump. He has to get a handle on the passing game, play design, play creation, and feel for the game. I think moving to an OC role is too big a jump especially when you have a first time HC as well. What I see happening is that if Moore doesn't go outside to find an OC, that Campbell moves into that roll (as he was an OC before at ODU) and that Hart may get a promotion as Co-OC and continue to be the RB Coach and coordinator.
From a defensive stand point, nothing really has to change, as we have a ton of talent coming back. They just need to find depth and have some of the guys coming of redshirts to step up.
As for the offense, my gut tells me that it's a toss up between Orji and Denegal. I wouldn't be shocked if they split time in the Fresno State Game to see who the "starter" is and it also would NOT shock me if they deploy the 2 QB system that was popular back in the 90's and early 2000's. Denegal and Orji are so different that the offense has to change depending on who is in the game.
With Denegal, the offense can stay somewhat similar to what it is today, since he is more of a prototype drop back passer with some mobility. As for Orji, I would love to see them watch a ton of film on the the JT Barrett offense at Ohio State and the Tim Tebow/Alex Smith Offense from Urban Meyer. I think Orji, in that kind of offense could be devastating for opposing defenses. Make him a 1 to 2 read QB and then take off. However, in that offense, they are going to have to scheme guys open, which is something we haven't seen a lot of over the years BUT, we actually saw quiet a bit of in the Alabama game.
It's also important to note that Moore also gets a bit more leeway now as well with the expanded playoffs. He doesn't have to go undefeated and frankly a 2 loss Michigan time is probably in the playoff most years.
January 25th, 2024 at 9:41 PM ^
As for Orji, I would love to see them watch a ton of film on the the JT Barrett offense at Ohio State and the Tim Tebow/Alex Smith Offense from Urban Meyer. I think Orji, in that kind of offense could be devastating for opposing defenses. Make him a 1 to 2 read QB and then take off. However, in that offense, they are going to have to scheme guys open, which is something we haven't seen a lot of over the years BUT, we actually saw quiet a bit of in the Alabama game.
100% behind this offensive philosophy next year.
January 25th, 2024 at 6:18 PM ^
Joe Moorhead and D’Anton Lynn would be home runs in my opinion.
Moorhead is at a dead end job right now (4-20 through two seasons at Akron and is only making $620k). So seems he might be intrigued by an OC job at Michigan making north of $1 million.
D’Anton Lynn is a Ravens guy, coached UCLAs defense last year and was just hired by USC. Probably a much tougher pull, and USC is paying him $2 million per year so getting him would be costly.
January 25th, 2024 at 6:21 PM ^
Moore deserves and will more than likely get the job, but currently it is not official. I read on WolverineWire that it will be announced in the next 7-10 days.
January 25th, 2024 at 9:09 PM ^
I literally created this thread yesterday.
January 25th, 2024 at 9:21 PM ^
Brian Ferrentz is available …
January 27th, 2024 at 7:30 AM ^
He was really good at low scoring, might be better at DC than OC.
January 27th, 2024 at 7:29 AM ^
OC is going to be Hart. DC, we'll have to see.