Who gets to go to football games if crowds are limited?
Since the Governor made the statement yesterday that she didn’t expect to see full stadiums for football games this fall, how would the university determine who gets in. I’ve been a season ticket holder for 26 years and I’m not expecting to get into any games. I’m curious if the board thinks admission will be based on points, lottery, first come first serve (which I think is totally improbable) or some other method. Just looking for your thoughts.
The Supreme Court has no say over whether or not the university chooses to allow fans into the stadium, and no say over the fans who may choose not to go even if permitted.
This is... not true.
It would become considerably more likely if the Court did invalidate the SAH order. It certainly would not guarantee anything but the likelihood of football would drastically increase.
Depends on what you mean. The post I'm responding to suggests that if the Michigan SC invalidates Whitmer's executive orders, the games will go on with fans. My response is that the SC is not going to order Michigan to allow fans into the games.
On a larger level, there are few scenarios where the SC could take the opposite position and ban Michigan from hosting fans, but those scenarios are at least theoretically possible. But that's not what I was talking about.
When fans come back it will be less capacity than normal...but I think families will be the first “fans” allowed in stadiums. Doesn’t make since to say let 20,000 ppl in the Big House, because the price gouging would be ridiculous.
Empty stadiums isn't going to happen. As more months go by and people see that the infection deaths are still limited to the 65+ nursing home crowd, the money will talk and people will walk into stadiums.
Tickets will be cheapest in a long time as many people won't get their jobs back and will look to unload.
Riiiiight -- no one under 65 has died.
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I think I see what you're getting at. For most people the odds of surviving an infection are excellent. Young, healthy people seem to get in trouble only with huge viral loads.
That's no reason to be simple-minded about it.
Question for doctors -
Is this accurate? That people who literally “take in” more of the virus have worse outcomes? Does this not defy logic and medical reality? Never once have I heard of medical outcomes being dependent on “how much” of a virus is physically ingested. Like, does somebody get MOAR AIDS if they are exposed to it in greater “quantity”. This is one of the things that makes me highly suspect of a lot of the info being provided the public. This would seem to make this a magic bug.
There was some thought initially about this happening - people who were sicker seemed to have higher levels of virus in their system, but that has been shown to be incorrect. What is known is that if you are exposed to a higher viral load (like 1,000,000 particles) is that you are more likely to get sick than if you are exposed to just a few particles. This is why people who work with oropharyngeal aerosols (people doing intubations or respiratory therapy, for example) are at higher risk of exposure and illness.
Not a doctor. However, viral load is a thing (think parts per million of the virus).
If you are initially exposed to a low viral load of a new virus, that is good news b/c there are fewer virus particles (for lack of a better word) so the exponential growth is a bit slower thus giving your immune system a bit of time to develop antibody resistence.
If you're initially exposed to a huge viral load of a new virus, that's not great- the virus will grow so much faster that you're immune system doesn't have time to fight back as effectively. Also the odds that you are infected at all are way higher.
So if you're expoesed to a large viral load you have a MUCH greater chance of inflection taking hold AND a higher chance of more severe infection.
Just like everything else in this country I expect the wealthiest individuals to get the first seats
Don't be surprised if there's no college football this season. College administrators are preparing for no football this season. If there is, I do not expect to see fans in the stadium especially at the Big House. No way that there will be 100K+ fans next season IMO
No way they could spin that the 100k is still intact like they did Hokes last year. Haha
“You are part of the biggest crowd watching a football game in the country today. Today’s attendance is 20,052”
College football isn’t happening. All of this (the virus and the corresponding political warfare) got away from us. There are much bigger mechanisms that must get corrected and addressed before sports will become a thing again. I don’t think there will be a 2020-21 college football season at all.
...What if they paid the players?
In covid19?
The elites
The home schedule's dogshit this year anyway. Already planning on just getting my refund for this year.
Who gets to go?
Anyone with a signed legal release, a living will, an updated organ donor card and 4 dollars.
How many people have even paid for tickets already? I haven't. Waiting until the current June deadline to see what's going on.
Same here
Me too. Something makes me uncomfortable about giving the AD my money and then hoping they’ll do the right thing. If the season gets pushed into January/February, I’m out for attending games in-person. Would they refund my money, or just say “thanks for the money, here are your tickets?”
She meant no fans.
somewhat related but not worthy of its own post, is the 76 yr old WVU president, gordon gee, saying as follows:
“We are going to play football in the fall, I really do believe that,” Gee said. “Even if I have to suit up.”
Gee, 76, will likely not have to don helmet and cleats. Though it’s reassuring that he believes actual athletes will be doing so.
“We’re going to do it based on what is safe, what is healthy for our fans, what is healthy for our student-athletes,” Gee asserted. “But I do believe that we will play football.”
Much of what will determine whether college football goes on, will come down to fall classes. If classes are in session, then the games should resume. If not, then the NCAA further opens themselves up to the accurate charge that their Division I student-athletes are much more athlete, than student.
This is likely accurate as to what is going to happen. For some, albeit surely not all schools there will be football this fall. I would absolutely expect some universities to choose to sit this season out, though.
Gordon Gee has already signaled he believes football is the tail that wags the dog from his days as OSU president. At least he didn't say something along the lines of scheduling the Little Sisters of the Poor if necessary to play the games... not that I would put it past him.
To think that people like him and Tressel are put in charge of institutes of higher education... It really calls into question where people place their priorities.
Gee is only saying that because his boss, Neal Brown, told him to.
Ask again next month.
Seriously though, I don’t think anyone truly knows what going to happen yet.
"Since when did 'we have to flatten the curve' become... 'we have to find a cure'
Dave Portnoy rant earlier today.
He is correct. This over reach by mostly Democrat Politicians is nothing more than a Power Grab.
Go ahead Libs...neg me. You know I am right.
Not a lib, but here's a neg nonetheless.
WOW!! You really owned those libs!! Look at you go
Go easy boomer. Turn your Faux news off, take your geritol and snuggle into your MAGA blankie. Dont forget to clap off! Nightie night!
You had me laughing at dave portnoy.. it wasnt with you. It was at you.
Enjoy your -1..
State your position on freedom to marry. Freedom to choose. Freedom to immigrate.
One just has to have a basic intelligence to see that your response is narrow minded.
this has been my biggest issue for weeks/months. The moving of the goal posts all over the place has reduced a lot of credibility the politicians may have once had.
Have things not changed? Of course “goalposts” are going to move. This is an evolving situation.
You are correct, but their overreach has been very successful short term. Democrats are going to get obliterated at the polls in November, but they have won in terms of creating financial mayhem and getting school/fall sports/etc. scratched for the fall. They are banking that doing so will cost Trump. They have miscalculated (again) and are (again) going to lose their mind on November 4.
I spoke with my contact at the AD yesterday. They are planning for every contingency. (no football, football but no fans, football with only 25%-33% of fans due to social distancing rules, football that starts at big 10 season, and the season moving to the spring)
If we have a season with social distancing fans.. There are plans for everyone to still keep their tickets for 2021 and use a lottery system (probably based on points) for the 25-33% that they sell for each home game for 2020.
Anyone who wants to die. This is America!
If they are going to have students on campus, I see no reason not to have a football season. They are all going to be intermingling anyways. If this covid thing isn't long gone by then, I think students and family members/guests of the team seems like a reasonable place to start.
NEWSFLASH: This Covid thing will definitely not be long gone by the fall. This coming fall and winter are going to be rough. Really rough.
Rough? How do you know? Every model has been wrong.
But every model has not been wrong? 80,000 deaths in 7 weeks and that's with an extreme decrease in overall human interaction around the country. The virus isn't going anywhere, it's far too widespread and contagious. We're heading into the warm months and still averaging nearly 2,000 deaths a day from this.
How about these tough sob’s. They can take anything!
It’s true they are underarmed and underarmored. Thankfully, the Whitmers of the ruling class puppets and billionaires’ slaves are driving the greatest arms buildup in U.S. history now as acquired by my fellow stock of straight, Christian European ethnics.
Even better though, we have recently acquired the means to build our own customized short and long barrels, with bonded and hardcast ammunition, and without identifying markings, so we can throw the weapon away and just build another one. Or three. Or one thousand.
And your sort cannot hope to put the genii back in that bottle EVAH. Cheers and goodnight, sweetheart.
Tiny prick, eh. Relax, I’m sure you can compensate by other means. Just lie and tell everyone how incredible you are. Seems to work for others of your ilk.
Each village selects a tribute to send outside their wall. If the tribute survives their journey to Ann Arbor, they are granted admittance.