What happened to fumbles?

Submitted by Gameboy on November 18th, 2019 at 11:13 AM

To say that this team had some fumble problems early in the season would be an under-statment. Most on this board were going apocalyptic over those fumbles, and were calling for many firings/changes. I did not worry about it, since they are mostly random, figured we would regress to norms.

What do those who thought fumbles were systematic, think about it now? Do you still believe it? Then what changed to reduce fumbles? I really don't see anything they are doing differently.

LKLIII

November 18th, 2019 at 11:26 AM ^

OP as a kid:

 

Scene: *End of class bell rings on a Friday. Teacher has forgotten to collect essay homework assignment due that day. As students begin to pack up their books, OP waives his essay in the air & loudly exclaims:

“Teacher, teacher!!! Aren’t you going to collect our essays?!?!?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

LJ

November 18th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^

They're mostly random.  But it's also pretty lame to start a thread couched with a question when your real intent was to say, "I made this (really obvious) observation about something before, and it turns out I was RIGHT!"

Sten Carlson

November 18th, 2019 at 11:20 AM ^

What’s interesting is when the fumbles were happening it was UNACCEPTABLE COACHING MALFEASANCE FIRE JAY HARBAUGH!  But, when they’ve stopped, there’s no comment about the coaches doing a good job of correcting the issues.  

lostwages

November 18th, 2019 at 1:12 PM ^

I'll comment...

Jackson was a better coach, always will be! I don't think our RB showing this week was anything but lackluster (other team's D actually showed up to stop the run).

I'll take Jackson any day of the week over nepotism. Running game was UNIMPRESSIVE to say the least! So thank you for making my point for me!

taistreetsmyhero

November 18th, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^

I don't know that the opening fumble "decided" the game against Wisconsin. But it drastically decreased our win percentage and intangibly deflated the entire team to the point where the game was all but over.

The fumbles also contributed to a lot of the offense's lack of confidence and definitely slowed the transition to fully integrating the new offense.

jmblue

November 18th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^

A turnover in the middle of the first quarter shouldn't decrease your chance of winning all that much.  It cost us 3-7 points, yes, but also pinned UW inside its own 5-yard line.

I actually thought the momentum-changer was on the next possession, when Bell's big catch got overturned on replay.  We then punted and UW scored to go up 14-0. 

 

lostwages

November 18th, 2019 at 1:16 PM ^

Why don't you give me one of your paychecks once per quarter, and lets see if that substantially decreases your ability to pay bills and save for retirement.

I'd be happy to do any documentation that's necessary and speak with you about your "emotions" on the matter as we progress.

Thanks,

Mr. Ocean Front Property in Nevada

cbutter

November 18th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^

I was speaking with my dad on the phone last night, and it seemed like Shea has had some problems under center this year a few times early, and I wonder if that is part of the reason they are moving to the wildcat on the goal line. Since they are almost exclusively in shotgun now, I am sure they don't practice as much under center.

I never thought it was systematic, just wondered if maybe that was the reason for the wildcat recently on the goal line.

Drew Henson's Backup

November 18th, 2019 at 11:32 AM ^

My opinion hasn't changed.

Not all fumbles are created equal. Some are caused by bad technique and some are caused by good defense. The only "bad luck" ones are caused by weather.

Fumble recoveries are more about bounces and luck.

To more directly answer the OP, Shea looks like he's less careless when he runs with it.

Also he's not getting hit on the blindside.

Also we've had fumbles that we've recovered plus the one DPJ lost on Saturday.

bronxblue

November 18th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^

I think it's a combination of some issues on offense with guys not always being on the same page and also dumb luck.  Everyone who rants about ball security being taught and, I guess, forgotten at times never really see how weird an argument that is.  Michigan will likely finish the year about even in turnovers, and the fumbles are down because guys tend not to fumble the ball.  Last year they were unsustainably good at holding onto it; this year early on they were historically bad at it.  Somewhere in the middle feels right 

I'mTheStig

November 18th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^

 Most on this board were going apocalyptic over those fumbles, and were calling for many firings/changes. I did not worry about it,

College football has virtue signaling now?

TruBluMich

November 18th, 2019 at 11:38 AM ^

They are no longer being recovered by the other team at an alarming rate.  They are still fumbling the ball way too much.  Think there were 2 fumbles Saturday, putting them at well over 20 fumbles this season.

Fumbles by Game this Season - Total/Lost

MTSU - 4/2
Army - 4/3
@Wisconsin - 3/2
Rutgers - 1/0
Iowa - 2/0
@Illinois - 3/2
@Penn State - 0/0
Notre Dame - 3/0
@Maryland - 0/0
MSU - 2/1

JamieH

November 18th, 2019 at 11:41 AM ^

Fumbles are a bad trend when a specific running back is fumbling over and over.  We haven't had that.  Our fumbles have been rather random except for Shea.  Shea has limited his fumbling by not taking hits at the end of his runs (sliding or going out of bounds) and by our protection preventing the blind-side hits he was taking earlier in the year.