Mpfnfu Ford

November 14th, 2021 at 7:53 PM ^

When you've single handedly dismantled a conference title contending squad with breathtaking speed AND insulted the academic reputation of conference foes that kick your ass & whose president is friends with your school president, you should not do anything to give them an excuse to cut your sorry ass loose.

There's not a single coach of championship caliber who would have done what he did, but that besides the point. Jimmy Lake is an idiot. His defense he coached hands on was shit, the OC he hired was shit, his recruiting was shit and his reactions in the moment to issues in front of him were shit. I wouldn't hire him to coach my nephew's pop warner team.

I know people love old school shit like that, but it should give you pause that one of the single most idiotic failures who ever coached a game against Michigan did shit like that instead of like, say, Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. Even if you think this is pearl clutching, just notice that it's an independently verified moron who did this and maybe the scales shall fall from thine eyes.

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XM - Mt 1822

November 14th, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^

I’m not text savvy enough to embed the link, but it was about a week ago and you could get it from that thread. The kid was nonstop jawing as the paper sheaf hits his helmet and the kid keeps jawing. Nothing in his head moved because the paper bouncing off of it.

I never had a coach do that to me, and it would never occur to me to treat a player like that, other than possibly shoving them away from further contact. That said, it’s division one football, not children’s badminton.

 

 

 

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blue in dc

November 14th, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^

If he hadn’t shoved the ref out of the way to get to his player, he would probably get a bit more of the benefit of the doubt.   When you shove someone else out of the way so you can smack one of your own players in the head, most people are likely to assume that you have some issues controlling your emotions that might not make you an ideal person to put in a position of authority.

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Grampy

November 14th, 2021 at 7:13 PM ^

This is more the point than the trumped up player 'beating' he administered.  The guy simply wasn't good at his job.  The Washington team I saw at the beginning of the year was poorly prepared for the national stage, incompentely coached in-game, and headed for rocky shoals in Game 2!  Ain't nobody's fault but his own.  

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Ezekiels Creatures

November 14th, 2021 at 5:16 PM ^

Lake was terminated without cause, meaning UW will owe his full buyout of $9.9 million — paid in monthly installments through January 2025 when his contract expires —

They're paying him $9.9 million over the next 4 years. No, it wouldn't have gotten worse, or they would have had enough evidence to get out of that money.

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TheDirtyD

November 14th, 2021 at 5:25 PM ^

I don't care about the money but people here wanting a break from Harbuagh (myself at one point included) should see all the struggling programs. Texas, Florida, Texas A&M, USC, Washington, LSU, Tenn, Auburn, Penn State, Florida State, Miami and more but those programs were historically good and they're not. It makes the pressure higher when OSU is routinely elite and in the playoffs almost every year so trust me I get it. But it can go south in a hurry. 

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Don

November 14th, 2021 at 5:57 PM ^

So who's your sure-fire replacement for Harbaugh? Wunderkind Matt Campbell? Dan Mullen? Tom Herman? Every one of the alleged superstar improvements on Harbaugh that has been the MGoBlog favorite at one time or another over the last few years has been revealed to not actually be the reincarnation of Bear Bryant.

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Vote_Crisler_1937

November 14th, 2021 at 7:09 PM ^

preface: I’m currently in favor of keeping Harbaugh. BUT the “who would you hire” is a non-starter to me. 

Was Tressell OSU’s “sure fire hire” for Cooper? Was Mel Tucker a “sure fire hire”? Was even Ryan Day? 
 

how many tries would it take Michigan to find a coach who could beat OSU and win the conference as often as Mark Dantonio did? 
 

what could Jeff Brohm do with Michigan’s resources? 

If you need a “sure fire hire” would you have hired Bo? Or Crisler? Or Beilein???

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jimmyshi03

November 14th, 2021 at 7:21 PM ^

Look at yesterday, Steve Sarkisian, former HC at two PAC 12 programs and OF for a record breaking offense at Alabama, was outcoached by a guy hired well after spring ball from Buffalo, and who’d been in D3 before that. But I’d venture to guess that nobody in Texas even thought of Lance Leipold’s name and n their own very short search. There’s a difference in who you could hire and who’d be acceptable to a large portion of the fan base. Tressel was well down the list in part because a bunch of folks didn’t want that job.

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Don

November 14th, 2021 at 8:02 PM ^

Not to mention that Tressel already had established ethical issues with how he ran his program at Youngstown St. that would have kept him from being considered by Michigan. Those ethical issues weren't an impediment to his hiring by OSU.

It's just unfortunate for Michigan that Tressel was a great football coach on top of being a bit sleazy.

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Vote_Crisler_1937

November 14th, 2021 at 9:38 PM ^

My point is certainly not that Michigan should have hired Tressell. My point is that there are programs who enjoyed far more success without making a “sure fire” hire that the fan base instantly loves. If we are unhappy with Harbaugh’s results as they pertain to winning the conference, beating OSU, or even beating MSU, then we should go find someone who can do those things and it does not have to be Nick Saban. 
 

it pains me to remind that Mel Tucker might accomplish all of those things this year. There was nothing inspiring about his hire and he wasn’t leading anyone’s list that I ever heard of. 

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PeteM

November 14th, 2021 at 9:36 PM ^

The question "what could Jeff Brohm do with Michigan's resources?" is interesting, but one might also have asked what Rich Rodriguez could do with Michigan's resources, Tom Herman with Texas' resources, or Dan Mullen with Florida's resources etc.  

I used to think that if a coach could succeed in a smaller or more challenging environment then moving up the food chain would automatically bring more success.  And certainly Meyer and Saban are examples where that can work, and to a lesser extent Kelly at Notre Dame.  My observation is that every single coaching job has its own set of benefits and challenges. Smaller schools have fewer resources but also have typically less demanding fanbases or agressive media markets. Storied programs also tend to have entitled boosters and alumni bases, and a distinct recruiting environment.

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