TWIS: BPONER edition
From yesterday’s game thread (a game we thoroughly dominated, mind you) -
Hey Jim, throw the fucking ball.
Typical terrible play calling on 3rd and short. Yay
I watch Michigan’s offense compared to these other schools and just say we are so fuckin boring ...Why can’t we have a explosive offense like these
Surprise. Kinnel gets torched again. We’re gibing up points on first drive again
Sigh. Why do we suck
Harbaugh and getting outcoahed by some no name guy at the schools that are made out to be jokes on this board
Name a more iconic duo
This program is so mediocre
Week after week and we fucking suck vs horrendous teams. Sick of this shit
These coaches are so overrated it hurts
All 3 facets of this team are overrated and underwhelming
these poor kids are constantly put in positions to lose
meanwhile, the vast majority of this board plugs their ears and shuts their eyes and screams to STFU and bans anyone who calls out the poor coaching and game plans, week after week, year and year.
Anyone who thinks we have a shot against Wiscy next week is delusional. We're going to get steam-rolled.
Not sure"? What more do u need to see? Our offense sucks ass
Honestly - Harbaugh has killed my Michigan fandom.
Empited a clip in it, ran it over with a bus, and then dig up the corpse and killed it again
Does Harbaugh have the balls to bench Patterson and bring in the spark that this team needs? D-Caff..
Probably not, because he's already being outcoached by an interim head coach
I feel some prison sex in store for us starting next week
Imagine believing that running this shit 1950’s offense is sufficient to win games in this day and age of college football
Watch any other top 25 team - especially those with young, dynamic head coaches - and see if they run even 1 of the shit plays that Harbaugh has in this frumpy ass playbook
How is it that our only competent hire in the last decade has been Don Brown?
No way this 1860 offense can go 95 yards for the TD. Expect a field position play here. (NARRATOR: They went 95 yards fir the TD.)
There's nothing this offfense does well. They'll struggle to score TDs on the rest of the schedule sans Indiana and Rutgers.
(Michigan takes the lead for good by this point.)
Does higdon have any vision at all? He's not that good
Patterson's going to the draft? Haha
WTF. I know we got a TD, but that is poor clock management
That was all from the first half. I didn’t bother going through the 2nd, although I’m sure there was wailing and gnashing of teeth during those two 4th quarter Maryland TD drives.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:16 AM ^
I misread the title and thought this was a riskier click. Oh well.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:18 AM ^
If only REM had written "Whiny Bitchy People" instead - that would describe our game threads perfectly.
The State Of Our Open Threads will come later to expound on this. I am supposed to be paying attention at a brunch right now.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
Brunch is the best
October 7th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
Brunch is breakfast where drinking isn't necessarily frowned upon.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
Brunch is breakfast for people who can't get their ass out of bed because they were drinking too much last night
October 7th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
Clipping comments from any game thread is like making jokes about tabloid headlines. Of course, they're ridiculous. "Why do we suck??!" = "Bigfoot and Elvis Sighting in Central Park! Together! Exclusive Photos!"
October 7th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
Yeah, the game and snowflake threads are awful. You just have to parse through the bullshit. The poster *** was one of the guys saying M's offense was shit and needs to be more dynamic and score more. Nothing but complaints that they didn't score enough. Yet, in the snowflake threads, he was praising them. Parse through the shit - everyone reacts differently during the game, and it's normally a poor reaction. And not always indicative of how people actually feel over time, rather than in the moment.
*** - isn't a bad poster, certainly not on the scale of the obvious trolls, but his posts stood out to me yesterday.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:00 AM ^
Maybe documenting inane emotional thoughts during a game is not the best Idea. At least there is better containment to snowflake and game threads now.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
Agreed. I consider myself a reasonable fan on that spectrum and I've sent plenty of texts to family and friends in the heat of the game that turned out looking stupid mere minutes later. Compound that by acknowledging that many of these people are a few beers deep at this point (especially when the game starts an hour late) and you get a lot of stupid comments that even those posters probably don't believe in hindsight.
I'm not sure we can glean anything from this.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^
Just reflects the old axiom: seldom is anything as good, or as bad, as it first appears. I also fall victim to overreacting often, sad to say. I'm already sorry I posted this comment. Never mind...
October 7th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
Thank you for posting. People need to chill out. Had you swapped Dantonio for Harbaugh you would be reading RCMB. They lost. At home.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
All the armchair idiots who’ve come up wayyy short in life...sad
October 7th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
I don’t think this is all “social media” age. So many people here are living in the BPONE zone and are incapable of processing the fact that you don’t need to succeed on every play and every drive to win a football game. Even OSU gave up 26 points to IU last week. When you get into conference play you’re just not going to dominate every game from start to finish.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
It's not a generational thing. You're crazy if you think people havent complained about coaches and players and teams and programs forever. The only different is their knee-jerk emotional complaints are being archived and documented, rather than just yelled at whatever eyerolling poor soul happens to be sitting next to them.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^
Yep. At the stadium I've witnessed plenty of "mature" fans venting their guts out.
October 7th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^
Yep. The mature lady in front of me every game is always full of the cringe worthy:
"Stop running up the middle"
"Why do they run sideways?"
"Oh my god, tackle him" (opponent gets 3 yards)
"Run faster"
Thankfully I don't think she can operate the internets.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:23 AM ^
I remember many of those from game thread. I only glance and not participate fully anymore. My BP is such high and these negative comments only aggravates it. Next two weeks will be worse
October 7th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
Exactly why I ignore most media during and after the game. Those comments and the comments on the Sparty blogs are largely interchangeable other than the names. Think about that for a few seconds.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
If the people posting this stuff whine in real life like that, they must be some of the most miserable and insufferable people ever.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
Man, that is such a disgusting image. Thanks a lot!
Going to need your gas mask to block out those fumes from east landfill you forced into my head.
Edit - response was meant for LB's post above. I love the fumes MGoHillbilly gives off!
October 7th, 2018 at 10:46 AM ^
Someone behind me WAS whining like that in real life yesterday. After Shea's tipped pass in the first quarter, he sarcastically yelled "nice call, Harbaugh!" And started bitching about the playcalling, as if that had anything to do with a pass getting tipped at the LOS. This guy next to me stood up and said "hey if you don't like the team why don't you go root for Michigan State" and then there was an exchange of "fuck yous" and middle fingers.
For the rest of the game, every time something happened the people around us would yell "nice pass Harbaugh!" Or "nice punt Harbaugh!" That was funny, but when we scored to go up 27-7 I looked back at him and he looked legitimately pissed that we were dominating the game. Being a negative Nancy is one thing, but when you get to the point where you're rooting against Michigan because your own pride or spite against Harbaugh is more important than seeing us win, you have serious mental issues.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^
And we see that here too. If you rant about how much we suck, people will turn your words back at you if we play well. If you then just say, "Hey, I was wrong and it's great to see, go Blue!" they'll let it go. But some posters are obsessed with in protecting their internet pride and "winning" a pointless argument, and just dig a deeper and deeper hole. (And then after finally being banned, they resurface under a different username and complain about "unfair treatment"...)
October 7th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Exactly. Had a guy complaining about everything yesterday. Every flag was going to be on us before the official made any announcement. Every formation meant that Michigan was going to run, and surprise, when we didn’t he just said “guess Harbaugh decided to coach this week”. Then when the Alabama score flashed he complained that we weren’t Alabama. Man, it’s annoying to be a Michigan fan sometimes, some people make us look bad.
October 8th, 2018 at 9:52 AM ^
nice post Brutus.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:54 PM ^
I work with some people like that. No matter what, it's always boo this or that, and "look at OSU" or some shit.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:30 AM ^
The first one was me, I apologize, send me to Bolivia if you must.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:36 AM ^
At least you manned up and took responsibility. Let's see if the other chicken little babies join suit.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^
Meh, looks like he followed your advice.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
Pretty sure that guy was sitting behind me at the game yesterday.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:50 AM ^
To defend those posts, game threads, in any sport, but especially football, are usually emotionally charged places where people post comments without fully thinking them through.
Now, if those same people are posting those things in the post game, after they've had time to calm down and rationalize, that's a problem. But I don't see it as a big deal during the game.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:00 AM ^
Basketball in-game threads are similarly toxic. You'd never know why we haven't fired that Beilein bum by now, judging from their scorching hot takes. If only his team would play two big men, stop shooting those newfangled three-point field goals, and post up every possession. That formula worked in the '70s and it'll work now!
October 7th, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
This one made me laugh:
"Watch any other top 25 team - especially those with young, dynamic head coaches - and see if they run even 1 of the shit plays that Harbaugh has in this frumpy ass playbook"
October 7th, 2018 at 11:36 AM ^
He must be referring to Nick Saban.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:19 PM ^
Yeah, our playbook wears a mumu and a hat with a flower on it. Next up: “oh yeah, well your playbook clutches its pearls”
October 7th, 2018 at 12:27 PM ^
I laughed at this one: "Honestly - Harbaugh has killed my Michigan fandom.
Empited a clip in it, ran it over with a bus, and then dig up the corpse and killed it again"
And I hope whichever "fan" wrote it doesn't injure himself when he tries to jump back on the bandwagon.
October 7th, 2018 at 5:15 PM ^
Both of those were me - I explained myself in a comment that’s on the second page now
I don’t consider the game thread an environment where serious discussion is cultivated, like some of you, and that’s okay.
I get why it angers some of you too.
I can tone down the sarcasm, anger based humor, and BPONE self loathing.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
All of the above, is crap... Michigan has been FORGED... they crushed a good Maryland team.
Regarding Kinnel, he is the best we have, but in my opinion, is a below average safety.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
I actually thought he had a couple good stops yesterday.
October 7th, 2018 at 1:17 PM ^
I’m pretty sure no one on a top 5 defense is “below average”.
October 7th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
I don’t understand all of the whining about a supposed slow start. Michigan dominated the first quarter.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:25 AM ^
This. I wasn’t even a tad worried when it was 7-3 MD.
Michigan was clearly dominating and the score would eventually bear that out. Should have had 10-14 points after the first but no way was MD gonna hang for that long when getting outplayed that badly.
Maybe I was watching a different M-MD game
October 7th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
It's interesting that you say that. I missed a good chunk of the game because I was watching my son play football and I walked in when the score was 7-3 and thought "What's wrong?". After a couple of minutes of watching, it was obvious that it was going to be a long day for the Maryland offense and defense.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
In the first quarter and first half, the offense rolled up a lot of yardage and first downs. And they did it with some nice runs, and with a nice variety of receiver targets. Patterson was pretty good.
OTOH, the offense did not score any points in the 1st quarter, and only 10 points until 16 seconds left in the 2nd.
Now, if someone points out that there was good (first downs yardage) and bad (geez no scoring in the 1st at all), is that not allowed? Only allowed to focus on the good, or else you are BPONE?
What about if a poster says that the TD to Ronnie Bell with 16 second left in the 1st half was an amazing play, but also points out that the clock management on that drive was...uh, not good at all.
Is that BPONE too?
We also have some reverse BPONE going on where only optimistic take are allowed following a win.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:54 AM ^
These discussions are evolving in to being like political arguments.
Everyone is moving to the extreme poles and also interpreting each other's comments in the way they want to interpret them...rather than based on what the person is actually saying.
I'm not saying you can't point out what could be improved; there is always room for constructive, politely-worded criticism. What I am saying is that the whining about the "slow start" and/or the "doom and gloom" attitude that many had at the end of the first quarter was unwarranted and an overreaction to what was really happening on the playing field.
I'm sorry, but anyone who was taking an objective look at what was happening on the playing field should have been able to see that Michigan was dominating on both sides of the ball and, assuming that would continue (which it did), would pull away and enjoy a comfortable victory.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
On the substance I agree 100%.
In the first half M offense rolled up lots of yards and first downs, and looked good doing it (mostly not based on manufactured yardage from non-repeatable one off gadget plays, etc.). Anyone who can't see that is willfully blind.
At the same time, it does remain a fact that M has scored just 3 total points in first quarters against it three best opponents, scored 0 1st quarter points against Maryland, and had scored just 10 points until 16 seconds left in the first half against Maryland. That is a legit problem and something that has to be remedied against Wisc, MSU, PSU, OSU...
Pointing out this latter fact draws charges that the poster must be made to parade around the town square with the red BPONE painted on his/her forehead.
October 7th, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^
"That is a legit problem and something that has to be remedied against Wisc, MSU, PSU, OSU..."
Why?
Do points in the first quarter count double now?
Did they institute a mercy rule in college football that I missed somewhere?
This is the issue, and this is why people get negged. Not because you're pointing out potential issues, but because of the rending of garments that comes with it.
If you had written, "this could be a problem" or "this might come back to bite Michigan," I wouldn't have responded, because you'd be right. But the black-and-white nature of comments like this one elicit negative reactions.
The truth is, Michigan can absolutely win games despite not scoring a lot of points in the first quarter. In fact, they're going to have to do that, because, with the exception of weak defenses like Nebraska's, Michigan isn't likely to score a ton of first quarter points, as the offense is designed to wear down an opponent, not to score quickly. The play calls that drive people nuts in the first quarter are the ones that make the opponent too tired to make stops in the fourth quarter: the exact same thing that happened to Michigan last year.
Now, would I rather see Michigan score on every possession? Sure, absolutely. I was thrilled when the Nebraska game was on pace for 112-0. :) But I understand that's not a realistic expectation.
There are absolutely some legitimate complaints. I think that Harbaugh punts too often -- I was disappointed to see a punt from inside Maryland territory on the first drive, although I was heartened to see him go for it on the second drive -- and it doesn't seem that Michigan is particularly adept at pacing in the two-minute offense.
But most of these complaints are ill-reasoned and yet presented as fact. That's what draws the disdain.
October 7th, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
Just so we are clear, your argument is the following: A post described as "a legit problem" that M scored 0 against Maryland in the 1st quarter (and in fact has scored a total of 3 points in the first quarters combined against ND, NW, and Maryland), instead of saying that "this could be a problem."
Your words: "If you had written, "this could be a problem" or "this might come back to bite Michigan," I wouldn't have responded, because you'd be right. But the black-and-white nature of comments like this one elicit negative reactions."
Thanks for being the 'legit problem' (terrible post!) versus 'that could be a problem' (post meets J's approval) police.
Hey everyone, an alert has gone out: Saying: "Nice TD but the clock management at the end of the half was terrible" is rending of garments. Instead the approved verbiage: "the clock management at the end of the half could be a problem if repeated."
Seems like reverse BPONE.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^
The offense is on an upward trend. Sure, there were some bumps in the first half, but pass proetection was good. It looked to me like the plan was to put some emphasis on the passing game this week in preparation for the next 3 games. Shea and the offense passed the test from what I can tell.
October 7th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^
If I heard correctly yesterday. M score 40+ points exactly zero times in 2017, they’ve done it four times already this year. Please don’t argue that’ll change against good defenses. Of course it will, that’s why they are considered good defenses. Difference is that we couldn’t score 40 against bad defenses last year.
October 7th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^
That's the main reason I first stopped posting and eventually stopped reading the game open threads. Just so much negatvity & nonsense. People need to chill. We have a great team, players & coaches. This season still has a chance to be very special. Go Blue!