Sources: Resolution talks in NCAA's case vs. Michigan hit impasse over Jim Harbaugh's refusal to say he lied

Submitted by MGoOhNo on January 19th, 2023 at 1:41 AM

A potential negotiated resolution in the NCAA infractions case involving the Michigan football program broke down this week after the NCAA demanded head coach Jim Harbaugh state that he lied to investigators, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports.

It is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

If coaches on FBI wire taps openly talking about paying players (before NIL was a thing) isn’t “detailed contemporaneous evidence” Jim and UM need to tell NCAA to pound sand. Enough of this! Hang the banners!

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Harball sized HAIL

January 19th, 2023 at 2:13 AM ^

This is turning into to the silliest, stupidest, nothing to see here fucking joke the NCAA has ever decided to sic their fucking chihuahuas on.  Quit while your way, WAY, fucking behind.  Michigan is one of your biggest brands fuckholes.

Harbs seems like the guy who remembers the name of every guy who he recruited, played for him, played with him, played against him, but doesn't remember what he ate for lunch two hours ago.

bluebyyou

January 19th, 2023 at 6:46 AM ^

Wouldn't defamation be the claim?  I believe we have at least one attorney who posts here who handles defamation cases.  They are often difficult cases to win.  

Here, it sounds like the evidence against Harbaugh is scant at best.  I'm sure Tom Mars can come up with something that will make the NCAA cringe when he files a complaint.

What's Good Fo…

January 19th, 2023 at 7:48 AM ^

Defamation is hard to win (I am a law professor and, as luck would have it, I am in the middle of teaching defamation this week). He have the burden of proving that the things they said about him were false. And he would probably be treated as a "public figure," which means he would have the burden of proving "knowing or reckless falsity" (a.k.a. "malice") by the NCAA. And he would have to prove malice by clear and convincing evidence, which is a higher burden than the usual evidentiary standard in civil cases.

uferfan

January 19th, 2023 at 3:16 AM ^

The NCAA is Dark Helmet from Spaceballs; lots of alleged power and a mountain of stupidity. I’m certain that their luggage password is 1-2-3-4-5 as well.

Midukman

January 19th, 2023 at 5:15 AM ^

Ncaa needs to eat shit and be glad they can still cover expenses. They’re toothless at this point. To get Harbaugh means they better be dragging the national champions and every SEC team in along side of him. Warde obviously was nutless in this whole thing which I believe caused all this drama. I see Santa having Harbaughs back on this making Warde the odd man out. 

MGoOhNo

January 19th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

Manuel is auditioning for a job with the NCAA which is why he’s doing his best impression of a feckless, empty suit. It’s actually a match made in heaven. Die on wrong hill, make it all about you, to justify your existence, and try to retain some semblance of power. 

remdog

January 19th, 2023 at 5:44 AM ^

So the NCAA is demanding that he admit to lying even though they have no evidence that he lied. That's beyond ridiculous.  And all the infractions are violations of pointless and arbitrary rules.  The NCAA is a corrupt and evil institution. It doesn't adequately punish extremely serious infractions and then it does this nonsense.  UofM and Harbaugh should stand firm against this BS.

bdneely4

January 19th, 2023 at 6:37 AM ^

Good for Jim!  The NCAA has been one of the most corrupt and greedy organizations around for decades. Screw them and it sound like Jim is taking the UP YOURS approach. 

blueheron

January 19th, 2023 at 6:56 AM ^

I haven't looked into the details much, so this may sound silly, but what is the NCAA's motivation here? Do they think Michigan will be (stupidly) "ethical" here and play ball with them so that they can show the world that they sometimes punish the big guys?

For the authoritarians who might jump in and ask what the NCAA is supposed to do if someone breaks rules, please refer to the basketball programs of Arizona and Kansas. (I have other examples ready.) There effectively aren't any rules.

AWAS

January 19th, 2023 at 7:44 AM ^

All those cases have written the playbook for UM on how to respond.  The initial step was an offer to settle on picayune ground, admitting wrongdoing to some minor offense.  When the NCAA doesn't play ball, the next step is to withdraw all prior admissions of guilt, and begin fighting every last molecule of NCAA's oxygen in the allegation.  I guess, from the NCAA point of view, they will be hoping for a different result.

Romeo50

January 19th, 2023 at 7:19 AM ^

Never, ever admit this formally to said body especially if you don't believe you did. Why would you hand an unethical organization with a vendetta (apparently) a noose? Let them twist in the wind or play their hand for the weak sauce it is!