*Sigh* It's Finally Time, #FireWarde. (a wholly unoriginal take on why Michigan must move on from its AD)

Submitted by MaizeBlueA2 on February 6th, 2024 at 11:49 PM

[Diary-worthy. Bumped it to the top for a few days -S]

Another #FireWarde thread?  Yes.  Another post that should probably be a diary?  Yes, that too.  An early vote for the winner of TL;DR thread of the year?  Probably.  But these will probably be my last posts for awhile, so...fuck it, let it ride.  Hopefully it sticks.

My hope is that my unique perspective of college athletics administration and long history with this site, coupled with the fact that its OT season and this isn’t OT, will buy me some leeway. 

The idea for this thread was sparked by a few of my (really long posts) in THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread on Ben Herbert's departure.  With that in mind, I stopped adding to that thread because I wanted to sit with my thoughts for a little bit.  Like many of you, I was angry - more like, "fucking pissed" - and I didn't want this to be entirely a reaction of the moment.

In the eyes of many, there have been several reasons to fire Manuel over the years...so what makes this recent misstep any different?  I'll start by sharing a little about that unique perspective.

While still relatively young, I'd like to think of myself as a veteran college athletics administrator.  I have worked in college athletics my entire adult life, starting as a student intern...to this point where my title is now "Executive Associate Athletic Director" (which is just a fancy way of saying senior or executive level administrator).

I'm originally from Ann Arbor (no need to ask, Huron, but didn't graduate from there).  I do not work at Michigan, nor have I ever worked at Michigan.  I do have many friends and colleagues at Michigan.  I have also met Warde Manuel several times, going all the way back to his days at Buffalo. 

I've worked at 10(!) different colleges and universities over the years.  In THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread I talk about how college athletics administration is very linear.  Some people get lucky and they find a place they like and they're able to rise within that organization.  Others, like myself, have to move to get to the next rung on the career ladder (some of those were internships - I am intentionally not saying how many because someone in the Michigan athletic department is probably on LinkedIn trying to connect the dots, and that is not the point of this post).

In terms of conferences, my 10 can be broken down by 2 B1G, 2 ACC, 1 Big East, and 5 G5/Mid-Majors.  I've worked in departments just as big as Michigan's, and at public and private schools.

It's this experience which has allowed me to look past *some* of the frustrations that fans have had in the past.  The fact is, most people have no idea what ADs do or are supposed to do.  Some think they're GMs, others think they make every decision in an athletic department, and only few understand the climate around being an AD in 2024 (this NIL thing is wild and most aren't even close to figuring it out).

So many times Warde has been blamed for things that were:

  • A. Out of his control
  • B. Not part of his job responsibilities
  • C. The result of unreasonable expectations 

Other times when he's been blamed, it's been absolutely warranted, but no one is going to bat 1.000.  When Warde was originally hired, I said Michigan was getting a B-level AD.  Solid, nothing groundbreaking, but certainly nothing to be ashamed of.  In fact, I compared him to Harbaugh...who at time wasn't Saban, Swinney or Meyer.  Wasn't Riley or Kelly either.

Since then, I've called him a C+/B-.  He's a C+ AD (Michigan could do a lot worse), and if you grade on a curve due to the fact that there aren't many GREAT ADs right now...a B- is fair.  Emotional people will say F, but come on, he is not an "0-12" AD.  He's a consistently 7-5/8-4 AD who never beats Ohio St. - and too many of those at Michigan will get you fired.

If you don't read much further, here is the problem with Warde.  I said he is a B-level AD...if it was 2004.  He operates at an exceptional level for a 2004 AD, we'd be lucky to have him.  To this day, he's between solid and great at the traditional "AD stuff."  Small problem though, it's 2024.

Athletics administration is moving faster than ever, for reasons I don't have to explain.  It blew past Warde 3-4 years ago and hasn't looked back.  He's antiquated.  The job description for a 2024 AD is like 15% 2004 AD and 85% something completely new.

Sidenote, this is why you are seeing a HUGE trend in college athletics with big time college ADs hiring sitting G5 ADs and making them their "#2."  Ole Miss just did it last week, hired LA Tech's AD to be the #2 at Ole Miss.  In today's world, the #2 is like your classic 2004 AD, while the 2024 AD is doing something almost entirely different.  Iowa's new AD was the AD at Ball St., she left to be the deputy at Iowa, the AD eventually retired, and now she has the top job.

Anyway, now I obviously no longer compare Warde to Harbaugh, I compare him to Brady Hoke.  Who if we're being honest, is probably a C+.  Remember no headset or long-sleeves Brady Hoke?  The guy who couldn't stop clapping and did everything as if he was replacing Gary Moeller in the 90s?  That's Warde Manuel.  Maybe not to that extreme, but it certainly paints the picture I want to paint without further explanation. 

So, why now?  Well, the past two weeks have displayed something you never want to see from ANY AD.  Regardless of the era, the last couple of weeks have been completely inexcusable.  I can look past missteps, some coaching changes, and mismanagement of "unwinnable" situations (e.g., Jim Harbaugh's constant flirting with the NFL during the best 3-year period of our lifetime), but one thing I can't overlook is...a lack of preparation.

Warde, I'm speaking directly to you.  Being prepared for outcomes is literally part of your JOB.  Preparing your staff and coaches for all possible outcomes is literally part of your JOB!  Yes, you have to lead and manage a department, and yes, you have to manage and grow a budget, and sure, you have to fundraise, build facilities, and hire/fire coaches.  But preparation is the key to success and Michigan has been unprepared for this coaching transition except for the obvious part of actually hiring Sherrone Moore.

There was always a chance that Harbaugh was going to leave.  With DeBoer and Fisch off the board, Moore was always the coach if Harbaugh left for the NFL (and probably even if they were on the board).  So why is Michigan so unprepared?

In my current role, I am the sport administrator to our Volleyball and Baseball programs.  In my career I've led the hiring process for 7 active head coaches across 4 different sports.  In my desk right now is a list of 25 volleyball coaches that I would interview tomorrow if I needed to...same for baseball.

On my computer is a checklist of exactly how I would handle the coaching transition with our student-athletes, alums, and donors.  I have already-written boilerplate press releases if we have to make a change AND more for when we hire a new coach.  I know exactly what I'm going to do every step of the way, including how I'm onboarding and setting a new coach up for success.

Why?  Because as a sport administrator, it's my damn job!  How the hell do I know when a coach is going to do something stupid and get fired or if they're going get a dream offer and leave?  I have to be ready for every situation, even if that's an impossible ask (but I can tell you from experience, it's a lot easier when you're prepared!)

Not too long ago I hired a first time head baseball coach.  Here are some things I did to set him up for success (beyond the obvious).

1. Contacted University Communications and made him go through TWO mock opening press conferences with our executive administration team acting as reporters.  Win the first impression!

2. Scheduled a series of meetings with three of our veteran coaches, so he could begin to learn what it takes to have success at our institution. 

3. Before we even offered, I made him share a list of assistant coaches he was interested in bringing on and I strongly recommended he find at least one assistant with D1 head coaching experience (kind of the Martelli thing, even though that hasn't worked out).  I vetted the list and made sure he could execute and move quicky if we offered. 

4. Got him in front of our social media team, it was important to engage and bring a new energy to the program...but I also know a first time head coach doesn't have time for all of that stuff when they're trying to move a family, build a staff, learn the roster, learn their JOB, etc. - so we got 3 weeks worth of content before we ever announced him as the next head coach.  Saves him time and keeps the positive momentum going in the background.

5. Helped him vet and hire coaches for his staff, with the goal of eliminating bias and a first time head coach's natural instinct to just go with what they know and rebuild the things that have worked for them up to this point.

...and so much more.  The point is, I was prepared, and it was a baseball search, and oh, I'm not the athletic director. 

Once again, Warde is not a GM...he can't just start hiring/retaining assistant coaches while Harbaugh is the head coach.  That is not his role, and would never happen.  However, it IS his job to set his new head coach up for success - and I believe he's failed miserably.  As soon as Sherrone was hired, there should have been a detailed plan on how to move the program forward.

Also, with Moore, money can't be an issue, not when you're saving $5M on a head coach.  But here is the thing I said earlier, Warde is antiquated.  He's clearly failed to grasp the notion of value.  Value isn't solely determined by success or merit, value in large part is determined by demand.

I'll give you an example, Erik Bakich is not the best college baseball coach in the country.  He's not.  He also hasn't had the success to warrant being the highest paid coach in college baseball. 

HOWEVER, Bakich's value to Michigan, a northern school in the B1G, with no prestigious history in baseball...is far greater than his value to say, Texas.

So unfortunately, this means you have to pay the man.  If he is the highest paid college baseball coach, so be it!  Get off the "principle" of things and make the best decision for your department.  Of course there is a limit (to salaries), but it's not "he's one of the best in the B1G, so I'm going to give him one of the best in the B1G money."

Ben Herbert was the exact same thing.  Unless he just absolutely wanted to go or unless they're paying him $4M/year...Herbert should still be at Michigan. 

Now, is it true people are leaving college sports at an alarming rate?  Absolutely.  Who knows, I might be next.  The NIL stuff and the money has gotten out of control.  Also, college athletics is a GRIND.  In many ways, much more than pro sports.  Post-COVID, people want their nights and weekends back, they want remote working opportunities, they want to see their families, and they don't want to always be working and tired.  It's only going to get worse.  We are not exempt from what the rest of the world is feeling just because we work in sports.

But again, preparedness.  This shift in society isn't a new phenomenon.  Where is your retention plan, Warde?  What are you doing to keep people at Michigan?  Not just these coaches...everyone, what are you doing that you have never done to keep people at Michigan?  Or are you just saying, "THIS IS MICHIGAN"?  How are you being proactive, considering the current climate?  Or are you just making excuses like almost every other AD out there?  What is your PLAN?

I have had multiple people at Michigan tell me that right now Warde is unprepared, reactive, and making excuses.  It's time to go.

Now Warde isn't all bad, he truly does love Michigan.  It's just time.  The same way it was time for Lloyd to step down because he couldn't stop hiring his friends while the game was passing them by, the same way Hoke had to go because he was too subborn to change or evolve.

I've shared the story many times, I was in the room when Warde told the B1G office, "fine us" when the B1G wouldn't let Michigan wear special #42 jersey patches honoring a fallen member of their community during the B1G Championship game when we played Iowa.  Saw it with my own eyes.

I know that Warde had to smooth over A LOT of damage that Dave Brandon left behind, especially with the conference office.  I know that Warde intentionally didn't go scorched earth in 2016 to defend Harbaugh because he was finally close to winning everyone over and getting things back to "The Big 2" where Michigan had say about some things (understand, at the time it was Gene Smith and everyone else...OSU ran EVERYTHING).  That was a big test to gain trust and he handled everything behind closed doors.  I know he was applauded by the most well-respected ADs on how he handled the Harbaugh post-COVID season contract situation (most ADs fold to the mob in that situation).

Warde has raised money and built buildings...and Michigan, admit it or not, is better/healthier today than it was when he arrived. 

But this nonsense post-hiring Moore was avoidable.  It has nothing to do with "era" and everything to do with doing your job and being prepared.  THAT is why this is the last straw for me.  Michigan could've had all of this ironed out with the remaining staff in 48 hours.  It's understandable that Moore hasn't filled the vacant positions (LB coach, Minter, and JayBaugh were always gone).  You have to interview new candidates for those roles, but Herbert, Elston, (maybe Clink)...these guys were already on the team!!  There could've been a whole "Those Who Stay" social media campaign for the returning coaches (celebrating their return to Michigan), we lost the moment and the momentum. 

So, the time has come, the industry came and went, and quite frankly, Warde is lucky he got a championship out of it.  It is clear, Warde was a solid AD for the past, but he is *NOT* the person that is going to lead Michigan into the future.  The thing he signed up for is not the the thing is oversees today, and we aren't going back - and for all of these reasons, #FireWarde.

 

Go Blue!

UMChick77

February 7th, 2024 at 10:49 AM ^

This is a very well constructed post with very valid and articulated reasons. Thank you for that insight. It's always welcoming to hear from people who are in the industry or privy to such things. 

I have a friend who is a SC coach an a SEC school who said some very similar things to which you did, but definitely in more in generalities. For me, hearing similarities between what they have said in the general college landscape and what you said makes so much sense. 

While I couldn't put my finger on it, the vibe I got from the AD since Harbaugh left has been all reactionary and passive defense (don't react until you have to react). The athletic department has acted like a deer in headlights and that feeling didn't sit right with me. With the amount of prep you described for all of the "what ifs", it's a travesty that he has inadvertently created an uphill battle for Sherrone Moore. In my job, I always prep for the worst case scenario and always have a back up plan. Why this doesn't seem like there were any contingencies other than SM for an organization like Michigan AD seems baffling and gross neglect.

You don't make things harder for your athletic programs, especially for your biggest cash cow. 

Amaizing Blue

February 7th, 2024 at 11:10 AM ^

In a long, long career in public education and coaching, I've learned that very few people, including myself, are visionaries.  Visionaries see what could be rather than what is, and they are able to articulate that vision in a way that gets everyone else to buy in and work toward that "Could be" with great energy.  

Most people, by contrast, see what is, and execute that plan.  If they are really good, they constantly come up with ways to improve the process and make it run as well as it possibly can.  However, they don't offer radical changes, and they don't have the ability to see how an entirely different way could work exponentially better.  

I think Warde is in that second group.  We need someone in the first group. Of course that's a risk in itself-some visionaries are charismatic people who others will follow, but their vision of what could be turns out to be a disaster.  I like the OP's analogy of Warde being a 7-5 or 8-4 coach.  We need someone who might go 3-9, or might go 12-0. 

ehatch

February 7th, 2024 at 11:43 AM ^

I know that Warde intentionally didn't go scorched earth in 2016 to defend Harbaugh because he was finally close to winning everyone over and getting things back to "The Big 2" where Michigan had say about some things (understand, at the time it was Gene Smith and everyone else...OSU ran EVERYTHING).  That was a big test to gain trust and he handled everything behind closed doors.  

How did that work out for us this year? It still seems like OSU runs everything. 

umgoblue11

February 7th, 2024 at 12:32 PM ^

It worked out that Warde was on the CFP Committee. You can blame him for some things, but he got enough clout from that example a few others to get the respect of other AD's and others. He doesn't get that role if he didn't have some level of pull.

TheBlueAbides

February 7th, 2024 at 11:46 AM ^

Best post on the topic yet and if anybody asks me what I think I’ll simply send them this post. Thanks for the insightful input, I’m not sure many on this board or in other walks of life have a better grasp of the topic. 

Blue Ninja

February 7th, 2024 at 12:00 PM ^

Great and informative post. Gives a lot more insight into how an AD position and office should work that I honestly wouldn't have a clue about. Its good to hear your insight OP and others that have replied who work in this field, because as most of us know, whatever work field you are in you know those who are stars and those who are not.

I have been hesitant as well to jump on the fire Warde bandwagon, but when adding up all the shortcomings I too am on board. If I were to summarize, its the entire never seeming to be ahead on anything at all and always seeming to react to any given situation rather than have something ready. Another side of this issue that has not set well with me is what transpired with in part the NCAA but more so the Big Ten and the suspension of JH. He just didn't seem to have the fire needed or outrage fitting the situation.

ShawarmaChameleon

February 7th, 2024 at 12:11 PM ^

This is all great. But still unclear how we hire a mostly new football staff, fire Juwan and hire an entirely new basketball staff and conduct a new AD search simultaneously...unless Jimmy Hackett has some free time. 

Creedence Tapes

February 7th, 2024 at 12:12 PM ^

I think you did a great job explaining your qualifications and experience, so I don't doubt that you understand how college athletic departments operate. This all sounds very impressive, especially to average people on the blog that have no idea what an AD does. But what makes you think that Warde does not also know how an athletic department should operate as well or better than you do? And what evidence do you have that he is was not prepared? We all know that some key assistant coaches left, but how do you know that Warde doesn't have a plan in place for that much like you did, or that coach Moore doesn't either?

I think without providing actual evidence to support your claims, your post is just speculation, regardless of what your experience and qualifications may be. 

 

umgoblue11

February 7th, 2024 at 12:35 PM ^

Look at my post above, but here's an example of how he's not prepared. He speaks in front a large group of donors/VIP's/industry execs and doesn't once bring up how they can help support Michigan/NIL. He's allergic to interacting with people who would BLEED for the University. I have friends in the industry that help support their collectives because they are organized and well-run. They get to that point by clear support from a leader in charge at the AD that helps clear the path for them to operate. Warde doesn't have to do anything else but clear the path, and he acts like it's inconveneint to him.

Zoltanrules

February 7th, 2024 at 12:26 PM ^

Not a big fan of Warde but let's have this conversation next week.

My hope is that our football coaching roster will be settled soon after the Super Bowl  ( Joe Cullen) and then we go to work. Moore needs NFL experienced help and we haven't had any of our current stars/key recruits poached yet. 

I have full confidence in Moore succeeding in this messed up CFB world. Ask Alabama now how things can change quickly if not prepared.

Zoltanrules

February 7th, 2024 at 1:04 PM ^

DeBoer is a good coach but not sure about the "fit" with his staff and that unique SEC program. With that program $upport comes expectations/pressures not known at Washington ( speaking of a team getting blind sided).  DeBoer was a deer in the headlights with no answers in a rather easy victory for UM in Houston.

The quickest decision isn't always the best one. Time will tell.

bighouseinmate

February 7th, 2024 at 1:17 PM ^

True, but at least he’ll have the support network in place to be able to succeed. I’m not really seeing that at Michigan. 
 

OSU, when Meyer left, also had that support network in place for Day. And despite his losses to Michigan he has still consistently had OSU competing for b1g titles and cfp appearances. 

Zoltanrules

February 7th, 2024 at 1:37 PM ^

The lack of support for UM football is overplayed right now. Other sports may be a different story. With all the sanctions I think Santa Ono and the athletic department were very supportive.

Harbaugh is a "unique guy" and we are now paying the price for enjoying this recent success with lead by him. JH and some of his loyal to him staff want the NFL and there isn't anything we could do to stop it.

Wait until next week (NFL coach moves) and then the first UM portal deadline (Feb 23?) before we think the sky is falling.

 

Zoltanrules

February 7th, 2024 at 2:36 PM ^

It looks like many ( not you) think the football sky is falling and I'm saying take a deep breath. Really the Warde long term conversation is a different discussion.

Cullen seems to be a good very good choice as we are selling development to the NFL for new recruits and transfers, and while it would be great if Clinksdale could get a big raise and stay as co-defensive coordinator, and eventually take over - the lure of the NFL and not having to deal with NIL, recruiting, etc. may be too much to overcome -that's life.

I think with if we keep our current players our entire D line will be scary and Jaishawn Barham and Ernest Hausmann will give us a very athletic LB group, in front of a secondary led by All American Will Johnson. Now if we aren't NIL paying keeping our stars I'd be very surprised/ disappointed.

Again stay tuned we'll know in two weeks how it all plays out.

Humen

February 7th, 2024 at 1:38 PM ^

I agree with OP. I believe OP’s reasoning applies to other members of the athletic department too. Why is there no transition plan for football? Where are the associate ADs? It seems like they need to clean house or, at minimum, check to see that Warde’s desk is full of coaching staff bios that he is ignoring. OP makes a case that the problem goes deeper than the AD. Athletes and students deal with spiraling costs while admins can do nothing and face no consequences. 

lmgoblue1

February 7th, 2024 at 1:53 PM ^

I hope he reads this and fires himself. He's got to recognize he just doesn't have the talent, desire or drive to LEAD.  I heard his interview on WTKA and he sounded half in the bag and making excuses. He had that chip that someone else spoke of on another thread. We are being driven into oblivion AGAIN by an inept AD in a long line of inept AD's. Exception being our "interim" AD Jim Hackett, a LEADER.  Which is what we need to move forward. Success is 90% preparation, and as the OP so poignantly noted, that is what is completely lacking. And I am disgusted such an opportunity has come and gone. 43 year season ticket holder here. If that carries any weight.

 

#FireWarde

 

wavintheflag

February 7th, 2024 at 7:01 PM ^

You sure love you some you. And not afraid to tell everyone about it. However I will give your post a C+ since quite frankly it is not dramatic or insufferable enough.

I give this response an A since I had already workshopped over 100 cut and paste responses to various message board posts including long winded arrogant self- aggrandizing diatribes.

JacquesStrappe

February 7th, 2024 at 7:27 PM ^

Two words: succession planning.

I mentioned this before and I am glad that MaizeBlueA2 corroborated it from an AD’s perspective. At Warde’s level you should always have a business continuity plan in place, which in this case means having hiring contingency plans for attrition events. Especially when your head football coach has been interviewing the last three offseasons. That should be a clue. 

With all of that said, I have never believed that you can fire your way to success. Everywhere that I have been that approach has backfired, killed morale, and made it much harder to attract and retain talent. I just don’t know if Warde can right the ship. He seems like a good person with a genuine commitment to upholding the values that Michigan stands for.  And I think the NIL problems are more of an indictment of the NCAA and the culture of college football than of Warde. But the coaching retention and succession mayhem is largely on him.

matty blue

February 7th, 2024 at 7:29 PM ^

momentarily unblocked mgoboard from my ipad to say that every fucking one of you is really fucking boring, and i don’t miss a single one of your posts.

WichitanWolverine

February 7th, 2024 at 7:55 PM ^

The post was ok; had portions of nothingburger but overall enjoyable.

However, Harbaugh was an A/A+ hire. Show me 3 better résumés when Michigan hired him (aside from Meyer to OSU) and I will be impressed. 

UMgradMSUdad

February 8th, 2024 at 1:54 AM ^

I've not read through all the comments and don't know enough to say whether or not Michigan needs a new AD, but I do have a few possibilities that are making the football situation tricky for Warde and are not things he can control.

1. Looming NCAA sanctions may be scaring off prospective coaches. Who the hell knows what the NCAA will do and how that will complicate the job Michigan coaches will need to do?

2.  It's not a great time to be hiring college football coaches. Many have just signed new contracts or moved to new jobs.

3.  The head coach doesn't have much of a track record to go on nor the networking experience to entice a lot of coaches. Tie that to number one above and that makes the prospects that much trickier.

 

maquih

February 8th, 2024 at 7:26 PM ^

Glad you were able to get through to people, because I've been beating this drum for a few weeks now and lots of people argue with me about it.

IDK shit about athletics administration but just from the news you could tell exactly that, Manuel wasn't prepared.  Why was he still updating the offer with Harbaugh a week after the championship? That should have all been done, Harbaugh should have had a finalized best offer on his desk months ago and then leave it up to him to take it or go to the NFL.  Why are we still looking for a DC when we all knew since even before the season it was likely Minter was leaving to the NFL with or without Harbaugh?

When Saban retired, Alabama had a comprehensive plan to fly in Deboer and complete the whole transition ready to go and Deboer was named HC within 24 hours of Saban announcing his retirement and the entire coaching staff has been set.

Manuel is not doing his job, notwithstanding the fact that Harbaugh dreams of winning the Super Bowl.

(Then again, Harbaugh hating Manuel certainly did not help anything.  And based on what little I know about Harbaugh from a fan perspective, I'm guessing he's the type of person who hates incompetent coworkers.)

 

 

 

meeashagin

February 8th, 2024 at 7:38 PM ^

Not until he completely runs the football program into the ground will he be removed.

See the basketball program for reference.

Warde and the Michigan suits all want us to believe that their greedy approach, pocketing the money for themselves, is a recipe for winning...its not.

There's a long list of players that helped us win the natty that we no longer recruit because we no longer recruit top 100 players. I can't imagine anyone wanting to play were you know no matter what they wont share any of the proceeds. But thats what our fearless leader is telling recruits with his cheap ass message.