SEC + Ohio State announce they'll bring athletes back on campus by June 8th

Submitted by throw it deep on May 22nd, 2020 at 7:02 PM

https://www.secsports.com/article/29209803/sec-permit-voluntary-person-athletics-activities

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29201315/ohio-state-athletes-start-voluntary-campus-workouts-june-8

 

This should go without saying, but we need to get our guys back in the gym by June 8th at the latest or we will fall even farther behind. Let's play football.

ijohnb

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^

The primary issue is that what she is doing is really, really fucking with children right now.  Kids are regressing educationally, developmentally, god forbid you have a child with special needs or you are completely screwed.  There are certain parents of kids with autism and other developmental and cognitive disabilities that won’t get their kids back from this.  There isn’t treatment available, occupational therapy, cognitive therapy.  It is starting to become pretty cruel.

Stringer Bell

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:48 PM ^

Well if there's data out there showing that kids are being irreparably damaged from a development standpoint then I'm all for looking at it.  But it's 3 months off of school and kids have been getting homeschooling and tutoring.

 

This whole thing sucks, I get it.  But really extending the stay at home order is just their way of easing the restrictions bit by bit.

LewisBullox

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:50 PM ^

Your point is absurd.

Sure kids took bullshit AP exams and there's a good chance colleges won't count them. That's about the worst that's happened with a couple months of closed schools. Trivial in the grand scheme of things.

ijohnb

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:57 PM ^

It my opinion, based on observation of family and extended family, and significant anecdotal evidence from discussion with other parents and teachers, that a certain age of children are really suffering emotionally and developmentally from these continued actions.  If you don’t agree, that is fine.  

wolverinestuckinEL

May 22nd, 2020 at 9:07 PM ^

I agree with you that the last two months of school were a disaster but they were a disaster for everyone.  Its summer now, so its not like the extension makes any difference towards the education of kids.  If schools is really two days a week in the fall ill be in your camp.

LewisBullox

May 22nd, 2020 at 9:09 PM ^

Extremely hyperbolic for you to suggest a couple months of this is significantly impacting child development, and there's no evidence to suggest it, and it's not in line with my own anecdotal evidence, so no I don't agree.

Furthermore, everyone is being impacted to some degree. You need to rework your angle. You'll have a much better chance making your case pointing to Michigan case data and economic impacts especially on lower income families rather than child development and mentions of communism.

Michigan Arrogance

May 23rd, 2020 at 11:13 AM ^

Well, that's what you were told by the AP, so a bit of a biased source.

However colleges have taken amended AP test scores before from events like Katrina, etc.

The biggest issue is with younger kids social/emotional development. from a pure learning standpoint, 1/3 of a school year isn't that huge of a deal except for those with learning challenges who are even more behind the 8 ball as it were. 

BlockM

May 22nd, 2020 at 9:05 PM ^

Get the fuck out of here with this shit. I work with middle schoolers, zooming with them once a week. They hate not being able to see their friends more, but they're not chained to radiators or regressing developmentally. I have siblings that work with special needs students, and yeah, it's tough but they're not "never going to get their kids back from this."

I have coworkers, in Michigan, that are getting PT and OT treatments. You're acting like Gov. Whitmer is forcing you to drink your own piss or something. You're embarrassing yourself.

ijohnb

May 22nd, 2020 at 9:14 PM ^

I won’t “get the fuck out of here with this shit.”  I don’t care if you think I’m embarrassing myself.  We are telling children to sit down and stare at a screen for 10 hours per day and they aren’t even at risk from this thing.  Treating them like little Petrie dishes.  People like you are the fucking embarrassment, virtue signaling like you give a shit but ignoring what is mass societal neglect.

Fuck you.

BlockM

May 22nd, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^

Ninety. Five. Thousand. People. Have. Died. In our country. Already.

It's almost a full big house already.

And you're bitching about having to stay at home (except for getting takeout, golfing, grocery shopping, some retail shopping, state parks, hiking, running, biking, etc etc etc etc etc) for another couple weeks.

Michigan Arrogance

May 23rd, 2020 at 11:51 AM ^

We are telling children to sit down and stare at a screen for 10 hours per day

No YOU are doing that.

Look, everyone with kids who has to balance WFH and kids and all this other shit has had a tough time. But you're coming off as just wanting to do anything so as to not spend time with your own kid.

bluebyyou

May 23rd, 2020 at 5:27 AM ^

Who is going to pay for this continuing state intervention which makes even less sense when you have surrounding states that are now open and their citizens are traveling through Michigan by plane or by car?  The idea was to flatten the curve so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.  We past that point weeks ago.  

Even if we and other states that are running in the red (most if not all ot them) get federal money, it's either coming out of taxpayer pockets or it is another major piece of deficit spending.  As it is, Michigan has huge infrastructure needs, roads, dams, etc.  The longer this goes on, the worse things will get.  

I'm not averse to wearing masks and social distancing, but there are ways to do those things that reduce spread and start opening things up or the economic costs and the ramifications of that in terms of disease from loss/delay of healthcare are going to ramp up.  The cure will be worse than the disease.

Perkis-Size Me

May 22nd, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^

I must be really ignorant to ask, but for her to keep extending this, I really have to ask “to what end?” If everyone else around you is opening up but you’re not, what is her endgame? Does she know something everyone else doesn’t? Is she doing it solely to give a big “FUCK YOU” to the armed protestors? 

Im not criticizing your post, WD. I really am curious, for those who still live in MI, what are you hearing as to why she keeps extending the dates? I haven’t lived in MI since 2012 so I don’t keep my ear to the ground on MI news like I used to.

ThePonyConquerer

May 22nd, 2020 at 7:12 PM ^

Some girl: So, what do you do as a living?

 

Me: I uh... I farm. I farm for a living.

blueday

May 22nd, 2020 at 7:39 PM ^

Problem is our Governor is a Communist... and that's ok with the robots which is really pitiful this Memorial Weekend.

LewisBullox

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^

Please enlighten us to how the goal of a classless society is relevant to social distancing policies attempting to limit the spread of a virus.

There's room for debate, but you're not in that room.

NittanyFan

May 22nd, 2020 at 8:07 PM ^

This seems like the sort of spot where a Conference commissioner --- a commissioner that theoretically is looking out for every school equally --- would come in. 

If I were the commissioner (I'm not), I wouldn't allow any team to practice until all 14 teams are allowed to (per their state rules).

Doesn't look like that's going to happen, however.