Schadenfreuede over May's hiring
Some juicy threads from:
Indiana Rivals board:
https://indiana.forums.rivals.com/threads/how-does-may-end-up-at-michigan.241041/
Louisville 247:
Enjoy!
Wow, that site is a time capsule back to 1997
It looks like the edge of OSU's internet.
1997 is about right. That website is a gold mine for email scrapping bots.
March 24th, 2024 at 11:57 PM ^
I visit that site every once in awhile and I believe it's one of the oldest - if not the oldest - fan sites out there. Does anyone know if there are any others that have been around longer than that O-Zone ?
The last time I saw "The Ozone" was several years ago, but it does still exist, I believe. I don't know if the forums even work anymore though. Even all those years ago, they were in a format that even 1997 might have found quaint.
March 25th, 2024 at 11:46 AM ^
The O-Zone is still an active board to this day. That's where the link above comes from.
Understandable (comment removed)
I think everyone would also agree this is the type of low brow crap that should stay elsewhere, even if you’re condemning it. This is the embarrassing/smarmy TLC-program version of board comments and leaving it on whatever board it came from is totally ok. The comment you’re referring to isn’t even schadenfreude, just idiotic and classless. Maybe provide some context?
Also when the phrasing comes across as “a” non-white, I cringe to the highest degree. I can’t even get into all the other stuff but at the very least use a PC race/cultural identifier.
I removed the racist quote from the idiotic Indiana message board fan for anyone wanting to read it follow the link from the OP.
I wasn’t trying to be a jerk btw.
No, I didn't take it that way. You brought up some good points and taught me something I was unaware of.
IU cope: May = Archie Miller (but mostly they just feel sad for themselves)
Louisville cope: May didn’t want the pressure of having an irrational and unreasonable fan base. I editorialized there a bit.
Perfect encapsulation, it's exactly what I got from reading the first 10-20 posts in each thread (except the O-Zone, that thing was, uhh...). LMAO!!! So much pressure that May can't handle at UL. The IU fans will be sad drunk for the next several weeks...
Damn. Those Cardinals really going through some things.
some reasonable IU comments:
Maybe. We'll see if May fails at Michigan the way that Miller failed at IU.
I think a fair argument could be made that May IS different from Miller, though. May coached FAU up from absolutely zero. FAU was terrible before May. Miller, on the other hand, inherited a Dayton program that was already doing well. In fact, Dayton is STILL doing well, even after Miller.
I feel like some IU fans are throwing shade at May at this point just to cope. Or, to defend CMW. LOL.
as the ohio board, ha. may there be crying, wailing, tearing of clothes and gnashing of teeth in columbus for decades to come
this exchange actually got me laughing out loud 
Indiana #15 Big Ten seed incoming!!
March 25th, 2024 at 12:06 PM ^
Only 14 teams make the B1G tourney next year, correct?
1-15 are in. 16-18 go pound sand.
Interesting the Cards fans are saying they offered Dusty 4.3 million but he chose less money to come to Michigan.
think about that for a minute. if true, he took $800K less to come to AA. that says all manner of very bad things about the cards' program.
Their fans were pushing the narrative that Dusty was only chasing the money and Michigan just has a money cannon. Now they've pivoted and are saying Dusty took less money because he just couldn't handle the pressure there. Insane amounts of coping and narrative pushing over there.
that's some serious mental gymnastics
I’m going to be very interested in the details of his contract. There’s GOTTA be a lot of incentives baked in, right?
I can’t believe that we underbid someone by that much. I CAN believe that we did a low guaranteed-high incentive contract. Warde did that with Harbaugh in 2020.
The comment about wanting upgrade sex twice made me laugh.
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The Cards' program says all manner of very bad things about the Cards' program.
The Louisville job is a whole 'nother level of rebuild from Michigan or FAU. Michigan was mismanaged and the roster is a complete rebuild, but it has resources few other programs can match. FAU, May started from basically nothing at all. No resources, but no expectations either.
Louisville has a culture, and that culture is, win at all costs. That's not something the HC can rebuild; it's something he'd have to deal with. I don't think a high-character guy who develops who-dats wants that kind of bullshit in his life.
Michigan was just bad this year. Louisville was both bad and dysfunctional.
I think there might be something to say about college sports’ inevitable death march toward a P2. Michigan is easily in that works. You think Louisville makes the cut? No
You think makes the cut? No
Did you mean to ask if L'ville makes the cut? Actually they are insecure about the state of the ACC and also believe that was a factor for Dusty; no way to make assurances about the school's future in athletics. But really, the P2 (if/when we get there) will be about football and basketball will have its own structure. I mean, even now you can be at schools like Marquette, Villanova, or even FAU and have great success.
Yes, too much typing - not enough proofreading
Basketball might have a different structure, but a possible P2 is gonna have a ton more money than other programs. I am sure lots of basketball powers will continue, but it's gonna be harder for non-P2 schools
March 24th, 2024 at 10:05 PM ^
The payout gap will be widened and that leaves those schools outside P2 vulnerable.
March 24th, 2024 at 10:28 PM ^
True enough, but the magic of basketball compared to football is that smaller rosters and coaching staffs dilute the impact of a money advantage. It's at least conceivable to have national success in CBB at a mid major. In football, only about 30 distinct teams (and that may be generous) will win all future national championships.
March 24th, 2024 at 11:58 PM ^
In football, it's less. ~13 programs have won close to 80% of all AP national championships, not in the past 10, 20 or 30 years -- all time. The AP began naming national champions in the 1930s.
Let that sink in. College football is the furthest thing from a level playing field in all of American major sports.
Thank you. I was too lazy to actually look. And what's worse is that if you're going back to the 30s, at least some of those champions are service academies during WW2 who will never sniff the Natty again.
The only "good" thing about the inevitable P2 (and kind of my point in all this) is that it won't really change anything at the macro level. Football will continue to be the rich eating the poor year in and year out, and basketball can still be a bit more random due to the lower relative value of a resource imbalance.
wow. People really wanted this guy!
How does Louisville think their program better than UM? WTF.
It's not like they officially beat us and won a National Championship. If it wasn't apparent the key word is officially (or vacated) and then of course there's this.
Louisville was dominate in the 80's but it took hookers and blow to get them back to that level, which resulted in them vacating 4 entire seasons (2012-2015) and over 120 wins and leading to where they are now. Which is they haven't advanced past the second round of the tournament in almost ten years.
As for history, not really sure where the myth comes from that Louisville is a better job. Listening to Louisville fans is like listening to Nebraska fans.
...And their (Louisville) in the ACC. And certainly not at the top of the pecking order when the Big 3 conferences select ACC schools, very soon.
March 25th, 2024 at 12:04 PM ^
they're not their....the sentence will make more cents.
How an official fucks up one of the greatest pressure packed defensive play in NCAA history is Jim Joyce stuff…or worse.
How does Louisville think their program better than UM? WTF.
Here's one man's thinking:
Objectively we’ve been by far the most discussed and the big experts bring us up a lot in this cycle.
Sounds like the Orphans telling the Warriors they have a real heavy rep and get written up in the papers.
Yeah, they were definitely the most discussed. That's because their train-wreck program was screaming "head coach vacancy" all the way back in November.
Historically they are a better basketball program than Michigan and is a basketball school. Louisville is probably a top ten basketball job, Michigan is probably top 20 - 25.
Dusty May might disagree
March 25th, 2024 at 11:00 AM ^
Michigan top 20 to 25?
Michigan has the 6th most championship game appearances.
Michigan has the 10th most Final Four appearances.
Who are these 20 to 25 schools above Michigan?
March 25th, 2024 at 11:01 AM ^
Do you have data to back this up?