Sam Webb: U-M Has "Slight Lead" for Otis Reese

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With one week until Signing Day (Feb. 7), Sam updated the recruitment of Otis Reese this morning on WTKA. He said Michigan has a "slight lead" for him thanks in large part to his relationship with Chris Partridge. It didn't help Georgia that his main recruiter left, but proximity to Georgia is in their favor.

He also said that unlike the Aubrey Solomon recruitment - everyone knew for weeks he was going to Michigan - this one is going to come right down to the wire.

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Lakeyale13

January 31st, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^

I Like Burgers, I agree with your premise regarding the core of this class / early recruiting cycle, but it is going 8-5 and not beating any team of value that has you miss out on guys like Friday and Patterson or not be able to flip a high value recruit from another quality program. If we were 10-2 this year I doubt we round out the class with some of the guys we have gotten. Not to say the recruits we have closed with aren't gonna be solid players, but the chances of them being difference makers are slim.

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His Dudeness

January 31st, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^

It's a bit like basketball recruiting now. We can't or won't *really* go after some of the kids in the top-25 because we don't pay. Every once in a while we will find a kid that has always wanted to play for us AND is willing to shake off the advances from those schools that have no problem paying, but that is happening less and less because of our last decade of mediocrity. It's going to be tough sailing in recruiting until either the rules have some teeth or the rules are thrown out. Both would serve Michigan better than the current environment.

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poseidon7902

January 31st, 2018 at 12:15 PM ^

A little research shows that Georgia had an 8 win regular season in 2016.  The only useful win they had was against Auburn which was a home game, but they lost to GT.  If a team regularly underachieves it's a different story, but 1 8 win season isn't going to throw your team into the gutter for all time.  

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Scarlatina

January 31st, 2018 at 11:16 AM ^

Georgia will likely end up with the #1 recruiting class. They are the favorite to land 5* CB Tyson Campbell, and OSU would have a hard time retaining the #1 247Composite class.

There's only 4-5 more big targets left OSU's recruiting board: 5* OT Nicholas Petit-Frere, 4* OT Rasheed Walker, 4* OLB Javontae Jean-Baptiste, 4* OLB Christopher Oats, and 3* RB Tavion Thomas.

OSU has been putting increased emphasis on landing 1-2 more OTs since losing Jackson Carman to Clemson. They seem to be solidly in 3rd or 4th place for OT NPF, but he is using his last official visit to come to Columbus this weekend. OT Rasheed Walker is essentially down to Ohio State or Penn State, and it'll probably comes down to who has the last face-to-face contact with him.

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MgoHillbilly

January 31st, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^

There's plenty of support for all the sec teams to be honest (exception-replace Vanderbilt with Clemson). It isn't surprising to know that a lot of talent leaves Georgia to play for other sec schools when you see how well those other schools are represented here.

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MRoseBowl89

January 31st, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

Georgia and Florida have so many talented athletes between them.  It's really amazing how many teams get athletes from both states.  Don't forget the ACC and non power 5 conferences too.

What I am curious to see over time is if in state schools like Georgia Sate, Kennesaw State or Ga. Southern, rise up.  Southern has had success, but the newer programs will be interesting to track.  

Traditionally, with Tech and UGA as the only big names, that meant a well worn path out of state for athletes looking to play ball in college.   Two schools can only take so much of the talent.  Plus Tech had admission standards that were higher than many neighbors.

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MRoseBowl89

January 31st, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

Georgia and Florida have so many talented athletes between them.  It's really amazing how many teams get athletes from both states.  Don't forget the ACC and non power 5 conferences too.

What I am curious to see over time is if in state schools like Georgia Sate, Kennesaw State or Ga. Southern, rise up.  Southern has had success, but the newer programs will be interesting to track.  

Traditionally, with Tech and UGA as the only big names, that meant a well worn path out of state for athletes looking to play ball in college.   Two schools can only take so much of the talent.  Plus Tech had admission standards that were higher than many neighbors.

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MRoseBowl89

January 31st, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^

Atlanta's population has grown from nearly 3 million since I moved here in 1989 to almost 5.8 million in 2016.  (Don't know current estimate).  What strikes me is that it is a steady growth from '90 til now.  

Gwinnett County, a north metro county, for instance was on fastsest growing county lists throughout the 90's and now boasts upward toward 150,000 school age children by itself.  But seeing it transform in real time on the ground has been remarkable.  Where did all those farms and country roads back in late 80's go? 

Cherokee, Forsythe, Cobb and other counties have also experienced growth as well.  Oh, and do they love football here or what?  

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DrMantisToboggan

January 31st, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^

Atlanta proper is still under 1 million, but the metro is well over 5 million. Projected to be over 9 million by 2040. Atlanta is a lot like Detroit in the sense that, the city limits population isn't crazy like NYC, but there's a few dozen towns within a 10 minute drive (well, theoretically) of downtown that all are very sizable.

 

The fastest growing states in the last few years have been GA, TX, NC, AZ and UT. You're not wrong that Texas is booming as well, but Atlanta has been one of the fastest growing cities for over a decade now.

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DrMantisToboggan

January 31st, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^

They have an amazing class. We have been recruiting better than at least 2 of this year's playoff teams since Jim has been here. In last 4 years:

Georgia: 3rd, 6th, 6th, 8th...Average: 6th

Oklahoma: 8th, 19th, 15th, 14th...Average: 14th

Clemson: 16th, 11th, 9th, 16th...Average: 13th

Alabama: 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st...Average: 1st

 

Total Average: 8.44

Michigan's Average (2016-2018): 8th

 

That's assuming we don't add anyone else to our 2018 class. We're fine. 

 

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ak47

January 31st, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^

Clemson's ranking is thrown off by the size of the class. Clemson might have finished 16th last year but their class average was 92.10. Michigan finished 6th but had an average ranking of 91.2.

A more accurae reflection for your time frame:

Georgia: 90.97, 89.74, 90.77, 92.27 Avg: 90.93

Oklahoma:87.30, 88.20, 88.49, 89.93 Avg: 88.48

Clemson: 88.69, 89.12, 90.30, 92.10 Avg: 90.05

Alabama: 93.65, 93.73, 92.54, 93.76 Avg: 93.42 (lol fuck Saban)

 

Michigan starting in 2015-2018: 87.81, 89.86, 91.20, 89.02 Avg: 89.47 (If you want to not just focus on next year but overall trends Harbaugh's full classes Avg to 90.02)

So no not the far off but it seems like either you need over an average of 90 multiple years running or the best qb in college football.  Just to make people bad OSU over the same time frame: 90.59, 90.31, 91.56, 94.59.

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ak47

January 31st, 2018 at 11:50 AM ^

Also the reality is we know stars matter, elite players change games, and 5 star players are more likely to turn into that than anyone else so 5 stars over that period.

Georgia: 3, 2, 3, 3 Total: 11

Oklahoma: 1, 0, 1, 0 Total: 2 (having the best qb in the nation seems like a good thing)

Clemson: 0, 3, 1, 2  Total: 6

Alabama: 6, 6, 3, 6 Total: 21 (seriously, just retire already)

Michigan 2015-2018: 0, 1, 2, 0 Total:3

People have complained about a lack of playmakers and its because Michigan has less top tier bullets in its chamber than other top recruiting teams.

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