Rumors swirling that the B1G is adding Oregon, Washington, FSU and Clemson this week

Submitted by Blue in Paradise on July 31st, 2023 at 1:01 PM

Jack McGuire of Barstool Sports is reporting this...

https://twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/1685756108613226502?s=20

 

This would be nuts and groundbreaking if true - adding Clemson seems like a stretch as they are not close to a fit outside of athletics.  He says "this week" so we will find out soon.

My wife is a Seminole so it would make our household rooting dynamics much more interesting!!!

Angry-Dad

July 31st, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^

Georgia Tech and the Atlanta TV market is where it's at.  Great academic school.  Clemson and the middle of no where SC can kick rocks. 

If true and ND misses this boat do they end up in the SEC or the Big 12?  Or is it just independence or death for them?

NittanyFan

July 31st, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^

Yep.  There are many reasons not to take Clemson --- but the Upstate "being in the middle of nowhere" is not one of them.  Greenville-Sparatanburg is a fairly booming area.

1.5MM people live there, it's a region that's 10% larger than the Memphis MSA and equal to the New Orleans & OKC MSAs.

MgoBlueprint

July 31st, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^

UNC, UVA, and Ga Tech make a ton more sense than fsu and Clemson.

I’d love to see Cal and Stanford join the B1G to give us a west coast/ California pod

RadOWon

July 31st, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^

I could see, OU, UW and Cal, Stanford.

Thats a better fit to provide a regional presence.

But I know NOTHING, anything can happen.

BornInA2

July 31st, 2023 at 3:13 PM ^

adding Clemson seems like a stretch as they are not close to a fit outside of athletics

I have pretty much forgotten that P5 schools are about anything else.

Amazinblu

July 31st, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^

I also heard a serious rumor… Barstool Sports is the most worthless blog site that attempts to cover sports.

Could this serious rumor actually be true?

Michfan777

July 31st, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^

It was never amazing, but was usually pretty good for some sports content and occasional laughs and/or college humor.

Obviously, I have aged out of their demographic over the past 7-8 years and they have expanded their portfolio of podcasts and offerings, but when I look at their social media accounts, its not even remotely sports these days. Its:

  • 50%: #Influencer / OnlyFans / TikTok Star News
  • 20%: Taylor Swift Coverage
  • 10%: Weird Current Events
  • 10%: Dave's Pizza Reviews
  • 5%: Cross-Promotion Of Women's Barstool Podcast Content
  • 4%: A Guy Named Glenn Trying To Fuck Gross Pornstars
  • 1%: Actual Sports Coverage

Even the dedicated sports podcasts they have are just cross-promoting other podcasts it feels. They have really fallen apart. Not sure its because of new ownership as of a few years ago or what, but I keep meaning to delete their stuff and unfollow them but always forget.

Perkis-Size Me

July 31st, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^

FSU and Clemson are going nowhere for the next ten to twelve years. At least not without six other members of the ACC saying they all want out, too. And to be honest, I'm not 100% confident the ACC is going to get that. 

BC, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Georgia Tech....I can't say with any degree of certainty that those schools are going to want to leave the ACC, because they can't be sure anyone's going to want them in return. Maybe Georgia Tech could attract the Big Ten's attention with being an elite academic institution and gaining a foothold in new territory, but who's going to want BC, Wake, or Syracuse? Why in the hell would they vote to leave the ACC? They know their number is up when this grant of rights expires in 2037 anyway, so why let their money well dry up before it has to?

I'm sure Clemson and FSU will eventually want out and they'll have suitors, but I don't know that they're going to get the votes from the other members that they'd need. 

Michfan777

July 31st, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^

Lol JackMack.

Dude is probably one of the biggest jokes in D-List sports media. Half the fun of his posts comes from reading the comments just roasting him for looking sticky.

Soulfire21

July 31st, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^

I can't imagine Clemson and Florida State are coming. How will they get around the grant-of-rights they signed with the ACC until 2036-2037? If they break it, as far as I understand (which isn't very far), they wouldn't have any televised home games in any sports until after that year.

Ecky Pting

July 31st, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^

Being members of the AAU, Oregon and Washington would both get a green light based on their academic pedigree. Neither Clemson nor FSU are members of the AAU, trailer-trash that they are. The only current or future B1G team that is not an AAU member is Nebraska, and that's only because they lost their membership almost immediately after joining the B1G.

It's arguable whether any of these schools draw sufficient additional television revenue to compensate the B1G for what their shares of the payout from the current TV contract would be, which would mean all of current schools would get smaller payouts as a result of the expansion (unless the new schools are admitted at a lower payout rate?). Also, the grant-of-rights agreements in the ACC are pretty much bullet-proof, which means the ACC retains those school's TV broadcasts (for home games) regardless of where they're associated or who they're playing, so probably not going to happen.

M-Dog

July 31st, 2023 at 10:01 PM ^

USC and UCLA will need some playmates in their own time zone, or their entry into the Big Ten will be a failed experiment.  Especially for sports that have to play multiple games a week. 

I have been to just about every large and medium-sized city in the US and I can tell you what gets you when traveling is the time zone change.  It's not the distance you travel that matters, it's the time zone change that matters.  North-South travel over long distances is not nearly as arduous as East-West travel over long distances.

USC and UCLA won't survive being on a time zone island away from every other school.  They will need schools like Oregon / Washington / Cal / Stanford to be there with them so they can have some "local" North-South travel. 

Consider it part of the cost of bringing USC and UCLA into the Big Ten.

 

b618

August 1st, 2023 at 1:57 AM ^

People talk about cultural fit.  I think Michigan, USC, UCLA, Washington, are good cultural fits.  But I think Clemson and FSU are maybe as good or better cultural fits with OSU, Purdue, Iowa, Indiana than is Michigan.

Academically, if folks want to talk about rankings, Times Higher Education or QS are good.  US News and World Report is the McDonald's hamburger of college ranking.

According to THE, worldwide university rankings are:

UCLA, 21
Michigan, 23
Northwestern, 26
Washington, 26 <------------
Illinois, 48
USC, 65
Wisconsin, 81
Minnesota, 101
Maryland, 104
Michigan State, 106
Ohio State, 112
Purdue, 127
Penn State, 151
Indiana, 170
Notre Dame, 201
Rutgers, 201
Florida State, 301 <-------------
Iowa, 301
Nebraska, 401
Clemson, 801 <--------------
Oregon, not ranked in THE, #731 in QS worldwide <-------------

I don't think adding to the Big10 is done for academic or cultural fits, but for sports money reasons.  I also think that's a good way to decide whether or not to add to a sports conference.

Out of curiosity, here is the SEC:

Texas, 50
Vanderbilt, 98
Florida, 151
Texas A&M, 181
Tennessee, 301
South Carolina, 501
Kentucky, 501
Georgia, 601
Auburn, 601
LSU, 601
Missouri, 601
Arkansas, 601
Alabama, 801
Miss State, 801
Oklahoma, not ranked in THE, 641 in QS
Ole Miss, not ranked in THE, 1001 in QS

In case you are interested in what are the top 10 in THE:

Oxford, 1
Harvard, 2
Cambridge, 3
Stanford, 3
MIT, 5
Caltech, 6
Princeton, 7
Berkeley, 8
Yale, 9
Imperial College London, 10
 

Romeo50

August 1st, 2023 at 9:21 AM ^

Breaking news Paul Finebaum reports Jim Harbaugh poops!

 

He also mentions rumors that Harbaugh illegally removes trees and has even done so co-opting local law enforcement and that there's video.

The NCAA is looking into both allegations seriously and it may lead to his termination...

...or just a slowing of the building brand that is Michigan. 

In other news, reports of negative recruiting have been found by the NCAA to be misinformation.

Amazinblu

August 1st, 2023 at 1:02 PM ^

I really don’t know if I should say this in a public forum - since the NCAA might find out - and, the ramifications could be SO far reaching - and impact Michigan athletics for generations - perhaps - even, the reputation of our beloved university.

So, what’s the serious rumor.  It seems that someone actually jaywalked across the East U / South U intersection recently - just over a block from The Brown Jug.    

A Public Safety officer was in the area and noticed this.   The individual identified themself as a Harbaugh.   The officer gave them a warning - no citation was issued.

The NCAA supposedly is looking into this and determining what type of sanctions will be imposed.