Harball sized HAIL

November 7th, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^

Maybe some of you younger whipper snappers wont remember but in the early 80's a guy named Dick Headlee ran for Michigan governor.  Signs all over the place.  Was comedy.

In San Diego here a guy named Dick Ryder ran for congress bunch of years ago.  Needless to say all his yard signs were stolen and put up in every dudes apartment windows with a Wanted sign to accompany it.

FB Dive

November 7th, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^

The documents show that the collusion dated back to at least 2020, and was ongoing as of last year.

If Stalions using unaffiliated third-parties to gather signs in-person violated the NCAA rules, I don't see how this possibly could not also be against the rules.

BlueTimesTwo

November 7th, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^

It is certainly in-person scouting (by proxy).  But what is more concerning is the fact that it is an approach that not everyone can apply.  If indeed the entire rest of the B1G is colluding against us, there is no way that Michigan can glean similar insights from other schools, because we are the target rather than co-conspirator.  So you have multiple schools sharing an advantage, with the explicit goal of damaging a single other school.  Having multiple (or possibly all) of the schools in the conference determine that they will undermine another member school to keep them out of the championship is the definition of collusion, and should give the incoming members some serious pause.

Ghost of Fritz…

November 7th, 2023 at 1:02 PM ^

Well...it depends.  Some all-22 does show sidelines at least on enough plays to matter, other all-22 does not.  Same with TV feeds. 

This is why Stalions system was a better mousetrap.   

But...as I have explained, 3rd party iPhone recordings are not the same thing as advanced scouting.  Recording is not scouting, so under the letter of NCAA rule 11.6, Stalions did not violate Rule 11.6.   

He built a better mousetrap. But neither mousetraps in general, nor even the type of mousetrap he built, violate any NCAA rule.