Revisiting the AP Preseason Top 25

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on December 12th, 2022 at 12:47 PM

As long as we’re spending some time today looking back at preseason picks, here’s a look at the AP preseason top 25. You can see for yourself who was overrated and who was underrated.

1. Alabama

2. Ohio State

3. Georgia

4. Clemson

5. Notre Dame

6. Texas A&M

7. Utah

8. Michigan

9. Oklahoma

10. Baylor

11. Oregon

12. Oklahoma State

13. NC State

14. USC

15. Michigan State

16. Miami

17. Pittsburgh

18. Wisconsin

19. Arkansas

20. Kentucky

21. Ole Miss

22. Wake Forest

23. Cincinnati

24. Houston

25. BYU

Others receiving votes: Tennessee 180, Texas 164, Iowa 163, Penn State 160, LSU 55, Fresno State 32, Minnesota 31, UCF 27, Purdue 17, Mississippi State 15, Auburn 15, Kansas State 14, Florida 14, North Carolina 9, Boise State 5, Appalachian State 4, Air Force 4, South Carolina 2, Utah State 2, UCLA 2, San Diego State 2, Nebraska 1

vanarbor

December 12th, 2022 at 2:06 PM ^

Crazy observation:

22 out of the 25 teams ranked in the AP Preseason Top-25 have worse rankings in comparison to their position in the final CFP Top-25. The only three teams that have risen are UGA, UM, and USC.

15 out of the 25 have dropped entirely out of the rankings.

McSomething

December 12th, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^

Of the top 10, 8 of them fell from their starting spot. The movement of the top 10 is -4, -2, +1, -3, -16, -20+, -1, +6, -17+, -16+. So the top 4 was fine, but 5-10 had a lot of misses. That's 3 teams falling completely out of the rankings, with 1 being outside the top 20. Having 3 top 10 teams finish unranked is glaring. A 60-70% rate is not great, in my mind. 

Buy Bushwood

December 12th, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^

He's a true sophomore.  Imagine where Lincoln Riley would be if had had UM's QB's of the last decade.  Maybe it's luck, maybe it's great recruiting and development, but, other than perhaps Miami of 1980's, I can't think of a coach who's had more talented QB's over a decade.  

BuddhaBlue

December 12th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^

I believe someone on the board posted a great analysis of this recently, along with some striking visualizations.

There were some shocking findings (or not so shocking) of very few of the preseason top 25 teams actually finishing in the top 25, certain usual suspect teams being overrated yet again for no particular reason, some Nelson Muntz "ha-ha" moments, and so on.

Worth checking out if you can find it

tybert

December 12th, 2022 at 2:09 PM ^

Some of these made sense with USC getting a new coach and QB - I didn't see them going 11-1 and another loss to Utah but more like 9-4 maybe 10-3. UCLA was extremely underrated given what seemed like a 5-year starter at QB and Zach back at RB. 

Tenn just outside the T25 made sense too given how they have barely sniffed success since Phil got forced out. A lot of hoopla but it didn't materialize until this year.

I can understand as well the TCU getting zero love. New coach, combined 23-22 over previous 4 seasons, etc. I think we had a period early 2015 under JH where we didn't even get a vote in one of the polls, but finished 10-3.

Was happy to see MSU, Miami, and Pitt all fall off. Pitt is MSU east under 60 minutes of roughness guy (who probably still hates UM). Miami found out that Josh isn't the greatest after all.

Probably the bigger pre-season surprise was why PSU wasn't even ranked in the T25. They had talent coming back and lost about every way possible to end 7-6, but Franklin usually ends up in the T25 by YE. 

 

Amazinblu

December 12th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^

So, which conference(s) were the most over-rated, from a preseason to “end of regular season” perspective?

It seems like the Big 12 and ACC are vying for that honor.

rice4114

December 12th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

When you take this into account:

The ACC and Big12 are no better than the BIG TEN West. Once you clean that trash out of the top 25 its an entirely different top 25.

Clemson's entire world is based on a season (several seasons actually) of one score wins over Syracuse State Forest College. 

Wake, Pitt, Miami, Oklahoma, Okie St, Baylor, NC state all nothing better than what is in the Big Ten West.