Rational Takes - Who do we get?
I'm a longer term season ticket holder (back when you could actually go to games and things like that). I'm upset with this outcome and you too are probably upset with this outcome.
Rational takes then: who do we get if the Harbaugh experiment hasn't worked? Looking back at RichRod, Hoke and now Harbaugh (and I acknowledge the this team is a lot better off than Hoke era) but not good enough.
So who do we get?
Do we sell our souls and get Urban. Honestly, on this day, I think I'm willing.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
Bill O’Brien
He did a great job with an undermanned Penn St team, knows the league well so good for recruiting.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
I just don’t think Manual is the person to turn up any heat on Harbaugh. I really think Harbaugh will have to willingly leave or some type of scandal situation. I hope neither happen but conversation needs to happen soon discussing how to get over the hump. MSU shouldn’t be the catalyst for it though.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:24 PM ^
I know hindsight is 20/20, but when they slapped the banner and didn’t form a huddle immediately, I knew something was off.
at this point, you are what your records says you are. Harbaugh has yet to pull off an upset, and Mel did in 2 games against his most important rival!? You have to win big games.
I am not in the fire harbaugh camp, yet. I want to see the rest of the season play out. But he needs a couple of big wins this year. If not, it’s time to move on.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:33 PM ^
Michigan played horrific. A Mel Tucker, 2nd game at MSU coach, with less talent than Rutgers just beat us. Harbaugh is inconsistent and can’t get over the hump. It’s a fact. Results support it. You can sit and live with mediocre football or look to the future and it’s not Harbaugh.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
Michigan couldn't cover a middling 3 star recruit just running go routes... this staff needs to go end of story im fucking done with this emvarassing bullshit.
Lombardi fucking sucks and he has over 300 yards on like 13 completions.
Utter trash..
Gattis abandoned run game as usual, what a fucking panicked idiot
October 31st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
No one because anyone outside of the bo family will get shit on from inside Schembechler Hall. This program will forever be stuck in the Bo Schembechler way of things making that guy a god of coaching despite the fact that he was just good in a really crappy League.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:31 PM ^
No one because anyone outside of the bo family will get shit on from inside Schembechler Hall. This program will forever be stuck in the Bo Schembechler way of things making that guy a god of coaching despite the fact that he was just good in a really crappy League.
People will support you if you win. But, they won't give a new person the chance to rebuild. A new "out of the family" guy has to be good enough to come right in and win 10 games in year one. They won't allow one step back to take two forward.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
There isn't anyone to "get". This is the program's ceiling.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^
Chris Klieman from K State.
3 years younger than Harbaugh. Won a ton at NDSU, and in his 2nd year at K State has them rolling.
He’s a realistic candidate to accept an offer, and would FINALLY let us move on from the Bo era forever.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
Urban? Hahahaha that’s a good one.
All Urban would do with a Michigan offer is call a press conference at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, invite every news outlet that would have him and listen to him, invite Day and the entire OSU football team onstage, wave the contract for all to see, proceed to wipe his ass with it, and then allow Day and OSU’s team to have a turn with wiping their asses with it as well.
Meyer would never, ever come here. And I honestly don’t know who Michigan could get who would change anything. I feel like who we are on the field is so far ingrained beyond just who the coach is.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:45 PM ^
Well maybe they’d all get Covid that way and we wouldn’t have to play them.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:31 PM ^
Brent Venables.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:32 PM ^
Mike Hart I know he wants to be the head coach someday. He can’t do worse than what I saw today.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^
Mike Hart would at least have some fire on the sidelines.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:38 PM ^
I like Mike Hart but I think this hire has to be from outside the program. Get a fresh perspective on what is holding it back.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:44 PM ^
Hire a running backs coach from Indiana.... big yikes. If Hart wasn’t a former Michigan back, he’d never even be mentioned here. That’s the problem.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:48 PM ^
He's also Associate head coach there.
October 31st, 2020 at 6:13 PM ^
Ah yes, that’s so much better *heavy eye roll* once again, an incredibly uninspiring candidate if it weren’t for the “former Michigan running back” bullet on his resume
October 31st, 2020 at 6:01 PM ^
No one could do worse than today. We just lost to a coach who’s career record is5-8 and who just lost to Rutgers. I year fucking 6.
This is worse than RR losing to Toledo.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^
Joe Brady
October 31st, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Joe Brady and Luke Fickell would be my short list. Would also give a ring to Fleck and Mullen but wouldn’t invest too much in that. Maybe a Hail Mary gauge of interest to Urban but wouldn’t even try unless he is interested.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^
I don't think Fickel would come. Maybe Jeff Hafley.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^
Brent Venables, Matt Campbell, Luke Fickel, would have to be the top 3 choices.
also see if throwing money at Gary Patterson to see if he would ever leave TCU if he was made top 3 highest paid coach in NCAA.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^
Brent might leave once his kid is gone, Campbell is an awesome choice and Fickel has a higher rater team and is trending up. I doubt he comes to MIchigan to get beat every year by OSU.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^
Pretty sure Patterson has some racial slur issues that would be tough to get over and personally I would stay far as fuck away from.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:36 PM ^
Nick Sheridan.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:37 PM ^
Belichick obviously. Meyer as OC and Saban as DC.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
I would take anyone right now. Harbaugh will NEVER win at Michigan it was obvious last year and the year before that and the year before that
October 31st, 2020 at 6:28 PM ^
Not True! He has always won the gimme games against teams with lesser talent... until today....
October 31st, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
1. It doesn't matter what we offered Urban, he isn't coming north. Period... so let's stop kidding ourselves.
2. Matt Campbell I think is a real option, give an up and comer a chance.
3. Didn't Chris Peterson step down in Washington? I would wait until he's ready to coach and make him an offer for sure.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
Matt Campbell
Luke Fickle
PJ Fleck
Bill O’Brien
Geoff Brohm
guy at K State
Brent Venables
I mean, anyone know what the fuck Bob Stoops and Chris Peterson are up to?
There are options.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Luke Fickle? Like the only guy we’ve beaten at OSU in the last 20 years? Take him and BOB, whose players hated him, off your list and the rest are legit.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
Mike Hart Associate Head Coach at Indiana actually looks like he fires his players up there. I know people don't want Michigan ties anymore but I honestly don't think there are legitimate coaches out there would coach Michigan.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
No more Michigan men stop with this bullshit narrative. Hire the best man available. If he happens to be a Michigan man ...fine hire him. But don’t use that as the hiring requirement.
October 31st, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
This. If we want to win, a Michigan Man is the last thing we need.
October 31st, 2020 at 6:05 PM ^
It doesn’t have to be the last thing. Just hire the best person for the job. To be fair in 2015 harbaugh was that man. He wasn’t hired just because he’s a Michigan man
October 31st, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
fire don brown for the love of god
October 31st, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^
What about Brian Kelly?
October 31st, 2020 at 4:47 PM ^
We would be more likely to get Chip Kelly.....
October 31st, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^
Not sure how this can be called the “Harbaugh Experiment.” That generally refers to an attempt that was off the wall or had no evidence to support an expectation for success. Harbaugh was a pretty much a sure bet when he came here, was Harbaugh for 1-2 seasons, then for some reason mellowed out and turned into something else, and we are now seeing a gradual decline in quality of play. Rather than an experiment I would call it a long Harbaugh kick in the nuts.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^
Anybody not named Jim Harbaugh. MSU is won a rivalry in its first year with a 5-7 coach. Hire somebody less expensive. Save some money and if it works some great.
October 31st, 2020 at 6:25 PM ^
Save some money for what? The program is swimming in cash. We could double Harbaugh’s salary and not be hurting. Really don’t see why his salary is such a major talking point. Results are results. Do you honestly feel any better about Harbaugh’s results if he was paid $4 million instead of $8 million?
October 31st, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^
You guys are nuts if you think Fickell would coach Michigan. Dude was born in Cbus + played and coached there. There's just no way.
October 31st, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^
Not like he’s getting the OSU job anytime soon...hell most though he would leave for MSU! I have no doubt he would leap to get the Wolverines job.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
Don’t laugh..
Brady Hoke? He recruited better than Harbaugh and did better against our rivals than Harbaugh, including giving us the only win against OSU in recent memory.
I always felt like he should have got another year.
being a head coach these days is almost more about making good administrative decisions as it is about actually coaching the team.
October 31st, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
So glad to see how rational everyone is after a loss
October 31st, 2020 at 5:20 PM ^
That was a bad loss though. There’s a better than 50% chance we lose to Indiana next week.
I’m getting negged pretty hard for mentioning Hoke but IMO he had far more heart than Harbaugh does at the moment.
October 31st, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^
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October 31st, 2020 at 6:06 PM ^
I really hope this is from alcohol or drugs or both...