December 18th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^
Yep, this. Except I'm a couple weeks out from nose surgery and there's still "stuff" going on in there that screams out for my fingers to enter and try to pry it all out.
December 19th, 2019 at 1:08 AM ^
“Doctor said i wouldnt so many nose bleeds if i kept my finger put of there” -RW
December 18th, 2019 at 5:51 PM ^
Or wash your hands AND get the flu shot
December 18th, 2019 at 6:42 PM ^
I'll wash my hands. But deprive myself of one of the few solitary pleasures that remain to me? Not on your life!
EDIT: Which reminds me of a story. My daughter goes to a great school where there are some autistic kids, as is now more common in some places, integrated as much as possible into school life--I am all for it. She was in the lunchroom the other day when one very sweet-natured kid of her acquaintance sneezed profusely into a white hanky and then proceeded. . . to each the contents. She was proud of the fact that all of the kids handled the incident so well but confessed to pushing her pizza to the side.
December 18th, 2019 at 7:48 PM ^
Exactly. Fuck flu shots.
Last time I got a flu shot I got the flu. Never again.
But if u want to get a flu shot, go for it. No problema
December 18th, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^
Never have got it and probably never will. If millions of people start dying and there is a proven vaccine then yes, I’d get it. Usually the flu vaccine is just a best guess.
December 18th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^
I have never the shot either and I have only had the flu 3 times at best in the last 10 years or so.
Read up on journal articles if you can handle/understand the scientific jargon. It is absolutely a “best guess” since the virus can mutate substantially faster than a vaccine can be created. A highly educated guess but still a best guess scenario. It is usually between 50-85% effective, depending on how lucky the scientists and their computer models got.
I am 100% pro-vaccine, to the point that I believe parents should be held criminally and legally responsible for the end result of their decisions regarding vaccines, but the flu vaccine is nowhere near as effective as the typical vaccines we all get (or SHOULD) get.
Caveat: I HIGHLY recommend getting the flu shot if you are immune compromised or elderly.
Signed,
drjaws, PhD, VP of Toxicology
December 18th, 2019 at 9:46 PM ^
I’m immunocompromised and I still am not getting it. There’s not enough research on the downsides, and it’s a product of big pharma to make money. I don’t trust the research. In some vaccines, double blind studies haven’t been performed. Look up what’s Dr. Shiva has to say, who has researched it extensively.
I’ve had the flu about 4-5 times in my life, the best defense for me has been diet, exercise, etc. I’m willing to take the risk.
December 19th, 2019 at 8:40 AM ^
Don't be a dolt.
The immunosuppressed, elderly and exceedingly ill CAN'T RECEIVE THE VACCINATION!
It is one of the very important reasons why those of us who can need to get vaccinated, to help protect those who can't. Herd immunity is about limiting the spread of a disease and therefore the risk to those already at risk.....not to mention the benefits to the person actually being inoculated, specifically the elimination of the chance they will contract the disease, or in the case of the flu a greatly reduced chance of getting it AND the proven likelihood that if by chance you do get it out will be significantly less severe in terms of symptoms.
Take the "me/mine" out of your vaccination decision and think more "we/us" with a focus on the most vulnerable among us you are helping to protect, v those mentioned above and infants too young to be vaccinated.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^
Inject this into your body ASAP for health:
- Aluminum
- Antibiotics
- Egg protein
- Formaldehyde
- Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
- Squalene
- Gelatin
- Polysorbate 80
- Aborted human fetal tissue
December 18th, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^
Not to stereotype but people with this argument usually smoke camels and weed, drink white claws by the case and eat McDonald's 12 times a week.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^
Mmmmmm....gelatin.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:58 PM ^
I’m pro health. People shouldn’t be downvoting a pro vaccine post.
December 18th, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^
Some more things in vaccines. Come at me anti vaxxers. Why are these good for you?
- formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, lactalbumin hydrolysate, polysorbate 80, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, yeast protein, calf serum, Fenton medium (containing bovine extract), modified Latham medium (derived from bovine casein), modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium, Vero (monkey kidney) cells, aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, bovine serum albumin, 2-phenoxyethanol, neomycin, polymyxin B sulfate, Mueller’s growth medium, Mueller-Miller casamino acid medium (without beef heart infusion), Stainer-Scholte medium (modified by the addition of casamino acids and dimethyl-beta-cyclodextrin), MRC-5 (human diploid) cells, CMRL 1969 medium (supplemented with calf serum), ammonium sulfate, medium 199
December 18th, 2019 at 5:30 PM ^
no yellow dye no. 5?
December 18th, 2019 at 11:02 PM ^
I guess because they stop you from catching the flu and sending it on to others. Respiratory illness is dangerous and skipping the flu shot incrementally increases your and your surrounding people's risk of getting it.
There is an insane amount of RF passing through all of your cells every second, most materials around you are firing ions into your body, weird chemicals coarse through you and billions of organisms are living happily inside your body right now. Since you live in the West, one of your cells just mutated from alpha particle impact due to the ambient radiation emanating from earth herself. It's all good, you will be fine even with all those things happening to you all at once. Respiratory illness puts the simultaneous combination of all the unhealthy things you do to shame. Listing chemicals is not moving the needle. Avoiding vaccines is incrementally increasing the chance someone who encounters you dies early.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^
No need to inject when you could just eat a Twinkie.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^
I don't see the problem.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:00 PM ^
- aluminum: the amount used as an adjuvant in vaccines are safe
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html#alum
- antibiotics: trace amounts from manufacturing vaccines.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/antibiotics
- egg protein: if you don't have egg allergies, you have nothing to worry about.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/egg-products
- formaldehyde: you get more of it from eating an apple than from a vaccine shot.
https://www.acsh.org/news/2015/11/23/apple-pie-mashed-potatoes-and-natural-formaldehyde
- MSG: your body makes MSG.
https://www.livescience.com/35925-monosodium-glutamate-msg-health.html
- Squalene: an adjuvant that is also made in your liver.
https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/adjuvants/squalene/Jun_2006/en/
- Gelatin: you can find gelatin in your skin.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/gelatin
- Polysorbate 80: emulsifier found in food and eye drops.
https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB11063
- Aborted human fetal tissue: the cells are used to make the vaccine, they are not in the vaccine.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/fetal-tissues
December 18th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^
Thank you.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
im not saying i am against vaccines but some of these statements are dumb..
"you can find this in your body".. okay cool, i can find poop in my body too.. doesnt mean i'd want it injected into my bloodstream
December 18th, 2019 at 3:44 PM ^
Well, there's a solid straw man argument....
December 18th, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
So you DO want poop injected in your bloodstream?!?!
December 18th, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^
thats the point of the post.. thanks for noticing.
that is basically the backbone of his argument for MSG, gelatin, and whatever else, being okay to be injected
then the article for MSG actually says "an MSG like substance" is in your body.. so not MSG. and that seems to be one of their main points for why the article claims MSG is okay...
thats the only article i clicked on in his post because i thought it was interesting to hear MSG isnt bad for you. of course when i clicked on that link i got one of those pop-ups that take over your entire screen and says you have a virus.. so im guessing its a reputable site
overall, i am not trying to argue whether MSG is good or bad for you.. i am just pointing out that part of his arguments are that something exists in our body so its okay.
December 18th, 2019 at 5:01 PM ^
The post was to point out the chemikills the person listed aren't something to fear just because it sounds sciency and artficially manmade. Because if he understood that he wouldn't have posted it in the first place.
And no, you don't want to inject something into your bloodstream because your body happens to make it. Ex) air bubble.
December 18th, 2019 at 4:22 PM ^
Inject into the bloodstream? That’s disgusting, and not accurate. It’s called a fecal transplant, and is reintroduced through your anus.
December 18th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
The fact that you think vaccines are injected directly into your bloodstream and have probably never even heard the word "subcutaneous" renders anything and everything you say meaningless to this discussion.
December 18th, 2019 at 4:25 PM ^
Smart people > Better than people who believe crap posted on the internet from people like Jenny McCarthy!
December 18th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
I know I’m a geoengineering denier (as stated by Western_), but this guy also says airplanes are pumping millions of tons of toxins into the atmosphere to control the weather. So there’s that...
December 18th, 2019 at 6:44 PM ^
I’m simply stating what’s publicly available. No hard feeling if your awareness isn’t there.
December 19th, 2019 at 12:22 AM ^
So your standard for truth is "publicly available"? Explains a lot. So much batshit insane stuff is publicly available. The Protocols of Zion is publicly available. QAnon/Pizzagte etc. are publicly available. Flat earth is publicly available. I could go on and on. You really need to stop believing whatever insanity you happen to read on the internet. No hard feelings if your head is up your ass.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
The flu shot is highly overrated. Take care of your body and it will protect you.
Edit: During years when the flu vaccine is not well matched to circulating influenza viruses, it is possible that little or no benefit from flu vaccination may be observed.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
So, this used to be my attitude 100%. I'm a healthy 32 year old. No kids at home, etc. Nothing to worry about! However, the flu shot is not about you. It's about helping limit the spread of the flu. If I get the flu, I'd be just fine - it'd probably feel like a bad cold. If I got the flu, felt like it was a head cold, and went to visit my 91 year old grandma and I got her sick, the flu could kill her. Herd Immunity FTW! Protect everyone else, and get a flu shot.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:06 PM ^
You can still get the flu even if you get the vaccine though. Why can't your 91 year old grandma get a flu shot?
December 18th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
She can, and she does. The point is that by getting the flu shot, we improve the chances of not getting or passing on the flu.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:07 PM ^
The problem with all of that is the flu shot doesn't work
December 18th, 2019 at 9:46 PM ^
No. The problem is that the flu shot doesn't *always* work, and that some people can't take it. You know, people whose immune systems are compromised.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:08 PM ^
Several years ago I neglected to get a flu shot, and I got it THREE TIMES! Apparently that's a thing when multiple influenza A & B strains are circulating. One of them caused me to miss an entire week of work and the other two were no picnic either.
So I always get a flu shot now. Although last year I didn't get it early enough and got the flu in October.
Luckily there was a new antiviral out called Xofluza that my doc gave to me. I was better in 48 hours. So ask for that if you get the flu.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^
Not all flus are created equal. Some flus feel like a bad cold. Some flus pretty much incapacitate you. Rare forms of the flu kill you, even 32 year old healthy people. It's true that sometimes the efficacy of the flu shot is not as high for some seasons, scientists sometimes guess wrong when developing the flu shot. But the cumulative immunity you build over time from annual inoculations will ultimately decrease your risk of becoming ill....and you'll be protecting your 91 year old grandmother too.
Get a flu shot...every year.
December 19th, 2019 at 1:21 AM ^
WTF?! I’ve never once in my life got the flu shot or actually came down with the flu. Probably because I don’t drink, do drugs, and I workout almost every day, and eat pretty healthy compared to the average person.
December 19th, 2019 at 2:57 PM ^
This is completely untrue. The antibodies your body produces from the vaccine last at most 10 to 12 months. That is why you need to get the flu shot every year. What does build a lifetime of immunity is natural exposure to the influenza virus. Once you get sick from that strain you will never get sick from that strain ever again.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:12 PM ^
Herd Immunity you fucking idiot. It’s a little needle. Don’t be such a pussy.
December 18th, 2019 at 3:14 PM ^
I'm not against vaccines. I just find this one pointless. If i'm not getting the flu what are the chances of me passing it on to the rest of the herd? If you served you would know that in boot camp you have to get 10 shots in just a few minutes. So one shot is nothing.
December 18th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^
If i'm not getting the flu what are the chances of me passing it on to the rest of the herd?
Well that's kind of the point, man. This helps reduce your chances of getting the flu.
December 18th, 2019 at 4:40 PM ^
"I didn't get the flu, so what's the point?"
-person who didn't get the flu in large part because other sensible people got a flu shot
December 19th, 2019 at 7:30 AM ^
What about the years where the vaccine offers no protection? I guess i was just lucky. I think a lot issues stem from how people treat their bodies and what they put into it. Eating right, exercising, and a good nights sleep will go a long way in preventing illness. I'm not anti-vaccine. I get all of my shots just like everyone else. Even had to pay $150 last year for yellow fever so i could travel to South America.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^
Got a flu shot for the last four previous years got the flu the last four years including 104 degree fever for 32+ hours. All previous years no flu shot and no flu. No flu shot this year so far no flu.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:45 PM ^
I will make sure to take note of the valuable anecdotal evidence you have provided. I will ignore the mountains of evidence that contradict this incredible wisdom you have bestowed upon us all.
December 18th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
A single person relating their personal medical history, real or imagined, on a college sports blog has always been the gold standard for clinical trials per peer-reviewed publications in JAMA and The New England Journal of Medicine.