Places to visit at Campus? (Prospective Student)

Submitted by Orlando2 on
Hello, everyone! I will be visiting the university soon, for the first time since I was nine years-old. I was wondering if the alumni on this website would be kind enough to suggest some places to visit! I’ll be applying next year and I want to major in engineering or applied mathematics, so if there are any locations tied to those two majors that I can visit, let me know. Thanks!

scanner blue

January 11th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^

See one of the nonrevenue sports and the world class facilities, and athletes that will be your classmates. This weekend wrestling v. #1 PSU, swimming v. #4 IU, the 1st event at the new indoor track. Next weekend PSU for hockey ...go to the ticket office right when it opens and can usually get a wide variety of returned tix (then go get Spots). On Jan, 27 there is Army v. Navy wheelchair basketball in Crisler which is a lot of fun and a fundraiser for a good cause.

On the academic side West Engin and East Engin where all your classes will be, NUBS where you wil be doing your punch carding, the Econ building right by the Grad LIbrary. Night spots ... Dooley's or Bicycle JIm's.( Yes I want to live my freshman year over again).

jblaze

January 11th, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^

1) Take the official student tour. When I did a long time ago, it was awesome.

2) Obviously check out North Campus, due to your major choice

3) Check out the UGLi (Under Grad Library) and Grad Library. You should/ will spend a lot of time there, even if you live on NC.

4) Michigan Union

Good luck and enjoy your trip. When I was a senior in HS, I flew to M with a friend (no parents) and we stayed in a frat house, off campus. It was nuts and made me not want to rush, but I loved all aspects of the campus.

 

Stevedez

January 11th, 2018 at 9:40 AM ^

I would normally suggest Bell's Pizza on the corner of Packard and State, but it no longer exists. The $5 large cheese pizza and large drink take away special was my dinner at least 3 nights a week!!

Zoltanrules

January 11th, 2018 at 9:53 AM ^

With those majors you probably wont be spending much time at either place, but those locations always fire me up to be a UM alum! Lots of other good suggestions here. Good luck and Go Blue!

ish

January 11th, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^

a lot has changed since many of the people who post on this blog were students.  that goes for me for sure.  try to focus on the areas that you'll spent a lot of time at as an undergrad.  with the caveat that a lot has problably changed, consider the following:

  • the library and other common study areas;
  • coffee shops.  no specific one because it may take time to find your favorite, but going to coffee shops gets you a feel for campus;
  • the brown jug and amer's;
  • walks up and down south U and state where you might often get lunch in between classes, and the union for the same purpose;
  • houses off campus.  see the dorms, but recognize that dorms are for but one year and you have to feel comfortable with off-campus housing options as well;
  • the gyms such as the CCRB if you plan to exercise.  very common place for students.  getting the vibe of campus from places where students spend their free time is important;
  • take in a class.  based on the major-paths your projecting figure out one intro lecture you're going to have to take and walk in.  no one will notice because there are so many students.  get a sense of whether those large lectures are for you.  pay attentention to what the students are doing (such as paying attention to the prof) and how that sits with you.

good luck!

The Krusty Kra…

January 11th, 2018 at 10:35 AM ^

And take note of the location of what is now "Craft Brew City" - the business in that spot is likely to change 4+ times during your undergrad experience like it did during mine (2009-14)

Amaizing Blue

January 11th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^

I am sure you are an excellent student or you wouldn't be applying.  My advice is to pay particular attention to your essays.  Have a couple people you trust read them over, and spend time on them.  I am a HS counselor, and spoke to our UM admissions rep the other day about a few of our students who were deferred.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Here are a few things I learned:  they got over 8000 more early action applications this year, yet took about 2000 fewer students during this phase.  For LSA last year, the middle 50% of incoming freshmen had 31-34 ACT scores with an unweighted GPA of 3.9-4.0. That will probably go even higher this year, and the Engineering school is even more difficult.  Our school in particular had 21 students accepted 4 years ago during this phase, this year the number fell to 9.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        None of this is meant to discourage you.  I am just encouraging you to pay attention to deadlines and really take the process seriously.  If you are applying to Engineering, make sure your teacher rec letter is from one of your advanced math or science teachers, for instance.  Best of luck!

Amaizing Blue

January 11th, 2018 at 11:31 AM ^

Make sure to highlight leadership positions, out of the box experiences you have had, and anything that makes you unique.  Out of all the admissions departments we deal with on a regular basis, UM is the most unpredictable.  They really do strive for a diverse and eclectic mix of students in each class.  (Not debating if this is the right or wrong approach, just stating facts.). Sometimes they defer kids we think are locks, other times they admit someone we think has no chance.                                                                                                                                                                                  One other thing-if you don't get in, yet UM is still your dream school, it is sometimes easier to get in as a transfer student after a year of doing well somewhere else.  Again, tougher to do this in Engineering.  

crg

January 11th, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^

He will be fine. Unless the relative standards have gone up dramatically in the last 20 years, that should be sufficient to get in. My metrics were comparable (with various extracurriculars also) and I got into CoE without any problems. In my graduating high school class there were others that I know had lower metrics (and a few that were not what you would call role model students) that still got into UM anyway. I later discovered that different schools/colleges within UM have a wide range of acceptance criteria - many people would apply to schools with low entrance criteria and later transfer to others within the same university (after establishing themselves for a semester or two). I'm not sure if this practice still takes place, but it did in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Amaizing Blue

January 11th, 2018 at 1:04 PM ^

Especially since UM went to the Common App.  Our experiences with individual students back up the increasing difficulty.  Talking with friends and fellow alums, our most frequent conclusion is we are glad we graduated when we did, as we probably wouldn't get in now.  

Beat Rutgerland

January 11th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^

Hey Orlando, I used to teach college writing if you'd like me to look over your essay and give you notes. I have taken pity on your unweighted 3.7 not being good enough. Just PM me if you want me to take a look at your essay (one essay).

Full disclosure: There's a 70% chance I'll tell you to rewrite it entirely.

Beat Rutgerland

January 11th, 2018 at 12:20 PM ^

That's a good point, I'm not sure that you can. I don't want to list my email on here, either, for fear of spam.

I'll give you the quick and dirty version of my standard college essay advice: Most prospective students think of college essays like a cover letter for a job, an opportunity to bolster and explain the info already in their application. This is how so many college essays end up being about how the student took a trip to fill in the blank impovershied country to build houses, and that really opened their eyes, it's a soft sell of your extracurriculurs.

The problem with that sort of approach, is 95% of college essays are humble brags, and your humble brag is going to run together with all the other humble brags in the minds of the admissions committee.

What you want to do instead is figure out what makes you genuinely unique. We all sort of assume our own uniqueness as a given, but the college admissions committee doesn't know you from Adam. So, take a personal inventory, and ask yourself, what do you think about more than other people, what do you approach diferently than your peers, etc. When you identify something in that area, that's what your essay needs to be about, and the essay should take the form of an honest examination of that trait.

For example, if you were, say, unusually committed to your friendships, that's a perfectly valid essay topic, especially if you can turn that into an intellectual examination of why that is and what motivates you.

The act of intellectually grappling with an issue and breaking it down, makes for a much more compelling essay than the humble brag variety, and what you're trying to do with your essay is not convince admissions that you're a good student, they already know that, that's why they're reading your essay, it's to distinguish yourself as an individual who has a perspective that they think will be valueable to add to their class.

Try that model, and add a powerful hook at the start of your essay to wake up the reader and draw them in, and you're probably in good shape.

lhglrkwg

January 11th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^

I knw kids my senior year in HS (05-06) who were getting in with 27-28 on the ACT and a generic 3.6-3.8 in high school. I don't think Michigan became Harvard in the last 10 years so I'm a little skeptical that's your average

My advice to the OP would be to apply as early as possible. Every day you put it off, you lower your odds of getting in. I would apply before your senior year classes even start - esp if it's your reach school

Mabel Pines

January 11th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^

Love to study??  Sounds like you and my son (also applying next year) would be fast friends.  I'll have him keep his eyes peeled for "Orlando2".  (If you both get in. Michigan is so much more tougher these days!  Good luck!!)

llandson

January 11th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^

I cannot understate how special a place Michigan's campus is. And I went to Illinois for two years and Michigan for two years. Michigan is special. For me, the Diag is Ground Zero for that specialness. My favorite memory of attending Michigan was watching the Westboro Baptist Church and counterprotesters yell at each other on the Diag. It was intense. Nothing like that energy at most other colleges and universities. 

True Blue Grit

January 11th, 2018 at 11:31 AM ^

take a tour of the buildings on North Campus.  This is where you'll spend much of your time your last couple years.  But, all the social life is still on the Central Campus.  So, my advice (as an engineering graduate) is to live somewhere down there and just drive or take the bus to NC.  

crg

January 11th, 2018 at 11:57 AM ^

As a fellow engineering graduate, I would recommend living near central campus the first 1-2 years then moving up towards north campus for the last few. I did the opposite when I was there and, while living at Bursley was a blast back then, it was a real pain near the end. I was spending 15+ hours a day at north campus (for classes, group projects, and working part time in the labs) and then having to go back all the way to central every night. The only reason I did was that I lived in a frat the last few years and was very low rent.

lhglrkwg

January 11th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^

just go visit the Dude (Duderstadt Center) because you'll spend more waking hours in there than in your dorm

Michigan's a great place. Apply as early as possible, and if you get in, prepare to work your tail off for 4-5 years but be prepared to have a blast too. Nothing like Michigan Stadium on a Saturday or Yost on a Friday night.

Rufus X

January 11th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^

Interesting this has turned into an admissions thread...  My son just got accepted to LSA  for next fall (waiting on Ross admissions *fingers crossed*).  My wife and I gradutated in 1996 and had no idea to what degree the process had changed.  Others on MGoBlog may find this interensting as well.

Two things I learned that make it impossible to read too much into the "average entering class" data.  They are VERY important:

  • In-state students are accepteed at a much higher rate than out-of-state.  We are in-state, and we have several friends who are out-of-state whose kids applied, were VERY qualified and did not get in or got deferred. Conversly, we have several in-state families we know whose kids were not ultra-elite students (i.e. 3.6 or 3.7 and 1200-1300) but were accepted.  It absolutely matters.
  • Michgan calculates it's GPA differently.  You send them your transcripts and they recalculate it based on their standards. Of note: an "A-" scores as 4 points the same as an "A". My son had a 3.9 unweighted GPA in high school because of a couple A-'s but is U-M GPA calculated as 4.0.   Similarly, a B+ is the same as a B or a B-.  

I know it goes without saying, but they ABSOLUTELY look at things way beyond grades and test scores. Extracurriculars and leadership experiences make a huge difference.

The other key point that was hammered into us over-and-over from admissions people was to apply "early action" and apply as early as you can.  Preference is given to early applicants vs. those that apply at the deadline, even the early admission deadline.

Best of luck and GO BLUE!

TheJuiceman

January 11th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

Cajun salmon sliders from Blue Lep...Pad Pak spicy from no thai...mason hall by the diag doors if you want to see athletes...dudderstadt center or whatever its called on north campus has a killer technology center with 3D printers, a world class recording studio, and of course the whole theater thing...i like the winter garden inside Ross too. Enjoy, and Forever Go Blue!