OTL is going all in on MSU, Izzo, Dantonio

Jamiele Hill got "Reassigned" from her 6pm SC show? 

 

Nothing like venom and hate from Jamiele. 

that one of my kids says they are considering applying to MSU for college and I have to level with them about all the bad shit that went on there for a long time and how they tried to cover it up.

I get that sexual assaults/violence happen consistently at many colleges around the U.S. but why would I knowingly allow one of my kids to attend one that turned a blind eye, victim-shamed, covered up, etc. etc. at all?

IIRC, looking back through the Hoke and Harbaugh tenures, our leadership has been consistently tough but fair on allegations of felony-level infractions by our players. Players suspended pending the results of investigations and court proceedings, followed by immediate dismissal if they were found to be true. We have been handling it correctly, all the while knowing that many of our competitors' administrations were busy sweeping their garbage under the rug.

It has been obvious that Dantonio was morally corrupt since his time at OSU.  He's always been a complete a-hole.  The only time it is shocking is when he handles a player discipline problem even remotely properly. 

There is less concrete evidence on Izzo. 

The apologists out in full force on RCMB.

Never forget. Remember Rather Hall and the hockey player he almost killed?

Winston was immediately allowed back on the team after the hockey incident. He then lead the Rather Hall ski-mask assault.

the wedge between the truth and Dantonio/Izzo's image.  That's been broken now, expect a lot of terrible things to be revealed.  The rumors around town really are terrible.  The NCAA can review, and will review everything title IX related. 

MSU has spent the better part of the last dozen years hiding documents from anyone who asked.  The NCAA does not take kindly to that.  Worse for MSU is that federal laws were likely broken, jail time seems inevitable for some parties involved.

This will take a couple years.  Most likely Dantonio and possibly Izzo will retire before the final conclusions come in.  But their reputations will be heavily damaged.

 

The image of MSU you'll see for the next couple years will be defending itself in the courtroom instead of lifting Big Ten and Rose Bowl trophies.

 

I expect State fans to be insufferable.

This is the essence of Michigan State.

It is indeed a University with an inferiority complex, a chip on its shoulder.

It's athletic programs are the one area where it can claim to be world class.  That has led to them over-protecting anything that goes on in those programs. 

They don't want to know what goes on.  Just keep winning and boosting the University's fragile ego.  They have sold their soul for AP rankings.

There are bad actors at Michigan to be sure, but Michigan is not afraid to get rid of them.  It's not perfect, but it does not systematically cover up abuse in the athletic programs.

Athletics are important at Michigan, but they do not define the entire University.  They are not the only pillar the University stands on.

 

This story was under their noses the entire time and they willfully ignored it.  THAT (meaning the turning a blind eye) was fake news!!!

I am glad my sister transferred out of that cesspool after one year to Michigan. Her reasons for transferring had to do with the lack of academic quality and lack of safety for women on campus.

Barstool tweet is reporting within days they will both resign.

Wow, that list of allegations is far more extensive than I could ever imagine

Someone is going to pen a really bad hot take article with at least 20 Grant Perry name-drops about how yes this is all really bad, but it was Michigan's culture of big brother arrogance that drove MSU to its single-minded pursuit of revenue sport success, so it's really scUM's fault. Over /under on Jemele Hill or Mike Valenti being the one to write it?

Ummm....could this be real?

the max bullough incident was he got in a bar fight in traverse city and he was charged with assault. i think it was settled out of court but dantonio knew and was going to let him play in the rose bowl. bullough's family made him sit out. what does that say about a man who is supposed to lead and teach the kids how to become men?

when dantonio made fun of mike hart for his height, he became a piece of garbage to me. Something out of a kid's control who is going to school and playing football and a grown man makes fun of him like a schoolyard bully for an innocent jab at a rival in a press conference. Like the most innocent jab and dantonio made fun of him for his height. how will he face his wife and daughters if this cover up stuff is true. "reputation and winning is more important than your safety"

 

Is Izzo still having his team rep the ''WE TALK, WE LISTEN" warm ups? Talk about irony...

 

 

 

ESPN caught Dantonio lying. The liar said sexual assault was new ground for him to deal with in the recent scandal of 4 players, but he has had 16 total players get hit with sex crime accusations and he dealt personally in them.

who lives in the E. Lansing area, she said from the people she's spoken to on this, she'd be surprised if Dantonio survives this ...kinda like a Baylor football re-run, w/the whole Nasser pedo-crimes adding to the scrutiny

First time poster go easy....

The dilema I see for the next AD or President at MSU that is tasked with cleaning this up is how do they keep any faculty or staff members on that campus that have had any cover up or any poor handling of sexual abuse or violence? They will lose all credibility in their job of cleaning up said mess. Anyone that new anything or has aided in any cover up has to go its that simple. We as a Michigan fan base have to realize there is humor or victory in this. Peoples lives were ruined and victims are starting the healing process. Many fingers are going to be pointed in all sorts of direction as this sorts itself out. I have no problem with the reporting of facts that is how we learn and make sure such henious acts don't repeat themselves in the future. I sense a semi gloating from some posts here and that is a turn off.