OT: Yahoo Report now ties MSU Asst. Dwayne Stephens to ASM via Email
This is a new report that just dropped moments ago, and it is starting to get harder and harder for the MSU basketball program to deny they did anything improper. The new report shows and email Christian Dawkins sent to his boss Andy Miller detailing that Stephens wanted to "trade" Miles Bridges & Gary Harris(assuming this meant Izzo or Stephens would convince them to sign with ASM) for the chance of obtaining Brian Bowen. It is a slow drip, but I have a feeling Yahoo Sports has a lot of these documents up their sleeve that they will reveal over the next few weeks leading up to March Madness.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:29 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 8:33 AM ^
The NCAA will do more about this than the Larry Nassar event. What a bunch of crock.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:55 AM ^
Dealing with a Larry Nassar is not. The NCAA has a lot of problems investigating reports of improper benefits. When the information is handed to them by the legal system, they do respond.
No one wants them involved in investigating Nassar and MSU. Whether they should punish MSU based on the Michigan AG's report will be debated even if it is damning.
February 24th, 2018 at 2:18 PM ^
Nassar was treating some student athletes, but was employed by the Deparment of Osteopathic medicine, not the Athletic Department. I am curious what jurisdiction the NCAA would have?
February 24th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
Double Post
February 24th, 2018 at 8:50 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:20 AM ^
Does Vegas have an inside source of information with the NCAA? Probably, Is the NCAA brass in bed with them and makes decisions with Vegas in mind? I find that laughable.
As far as the TV contract goes. It's good for the NCAA that it's not up for renewal now. It runs through 2032. I don't think they are too worried about that next round of negotiations right now.
Lastly, the NCAA has very little control over this breaking story. Look at how much has changed in the last 24 hours. They don't know what's going to happen next or when the next big news will drop. They'll hold the tournament, but they are going to be reacting to news events, not orchestrating them. There really are are no immediate finacial consequences for the NCAA. How they handle this might have a big impact on their future though.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:54 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
I think Slick Willie Self has been cheating for a long time.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:58 AM ^
Two Big Ten teams...
“Dwayne Stephens – Trying to close the deal on Brian Bowen for Michigan State. Trying to do a trade deal for (Spartans) Gary Harris, Miles Bridges, etc”
“Chuck Martin – Trying to close the deal on Brian Bowen for Indiana. I told him if we can work together and if he can push for us to get (Hoosiers) Thomas Bryant and OG Anunoby two projected first rounders from IU this year we can work something out.”
One coached by Izzo, the other coached by Crean... are we surprised? All roads do lead to Rome...
February 24th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:02 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^
Wasn't PSU broken by Yahoo? They actually do good work on the sports journalism front. Maybe not, that was a long time ago.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:41 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:42 AM ^
They may have made a deal with the devil to get sports scoops in exchange for giving voice to the absolute bottom of the barrel dregs of humanity on their comment boards. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than Yahoo comment sections.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^
The comments section of any national / international news related outlet is filled with the worst of humanity.
February 24th, 2018 at 10:15 AM ^
which is, more or less, the original sin of the internet (finding out what other people are thinking), but there are definitely degrees. And Yahoo comments are the purest distillation of racism, misogyny, and general-purpose villainy I've ever seen. At this point it may just be Russian troll-bots talking to each other.
February 24th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:19 AM ^
My granddaughter has been accepted and will attend in the fall. She also visited and applied to MSU, my only question to her when i found out she was on her way to EL for the visit was WHY?
My son and I recently discussed this curent state of affairs at MSU, we both agreed we are very fortunate she got into UM so we didn't have her deciding between MSU and one of the other three other schools she applied to and was accepted.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:41 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 11:29 AM ^
I agree, but a big issue with the Nassar case was the failure of administration (not just in athletics but academics because he was also a professor). I don't have a daughter, but I wouldn't want her to attend MSU in its current state. The administration there has clearly not made (female) student safety a priority. That's not to say any school is perfect in that regard, even M, but with MSU's abysmal track record I wouldn't feel comfortable with being a female student at MSU or the parent of one.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:28 AM ^
Sarah Huckabee Sanders as their spokesperson?
February 24th, 2018 at 9:52 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 9:53 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
-1 for stupidity
February 24th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^
The MSU assistant was offering to steer Bridges and Harris to a different agency in exchange from a top recruit being steered toward MSU? Is that right? If that is the case, is that an NCAA violation? It sounds shady as hell, but I honestly don't know if it violates anything. The recruit and is family aren't getting any improper benefits or really, anything out of this, and Harris and Bridges can go with whatever agency they want to go with. Again, it doesn't look good, but I honetly don't know if it violates the NCAA rules, in terms of the recruit himself.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:45 AM ^
Football and basketball players lose all their remaining college eligibility the second they hire an agent.
Meet with an agent or come to an agreement with an agent and you are done. For coaches to play inelligble students is 100% a violation. Plus, you are ignoring the exchange of money from the agents to the players. How do you think the agency could $teer Bowen anywhere?
Say goodbye to your plausible deniability. Just sit back and watch the show.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:29 AM ^
But that is not what is alleged to have happened. Steering someone to an agency is different then that player hiring an agent. I didn't see anywhere that said Harris or Bridges hired an agent, it is saying an assistant said they would steer them to the agency. This doesn't mention anything about the players themselves having any idea any of this was going on, right? Again, I read the article as an MSU assistant agreed to have Harris and Bridges go to that sports agency in exchange for a recruit being steered toward MSU. It doesn't mean shadier shit hasn't or isn't going on, but this article isn't that damning as some are making it out to be.
February 24th, 2018 at 11:43 AM ^
Momma got an 'advance.' HC's are aware that their prized recruits have received impermissible benfits and still let them play.Even after Yahoo report,these schools (except for S.D.St.) have said they will still let these players play.It's been going on for for decades.
February 24th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^
How could an agency steer a recruit at a coach's behest if the player had not selected an agency and/or were not receiving money?
How could a coach request an agency to steer a recruit their way unless they were aware and choosing to be players in the game?
You are either willfully ignorant or just being difficult and ignoring the other reports out there that make it clear what was happening.
February 24th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^
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February 24th, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 10:49 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^
that all of that is possible or even likely, but the article doesn't go into that. It doesn't say MSU offered Bowen any money, or that Izzo even knew of the agreement. Completely agree that it is for sure possible other shit has gone on and is going on, but that is not what the article went into. People are acting like this is some seriously damning report that Izzo cannot possibly survive, when, in the end, all we for sure know happened was Miles Bridges's mom getting just under $550 for something, and that an assistant of his tried to negiotate a tit-for-tat trade of MSU getting a recruit in exchange for them steering a few players to a sports agency. This could obviously only be the start of something much larger and worse for MSU, but right now, as is, it's bad, and raises more questions, but isn't terrible to the point that MSU would consider getting rid of Izzo.
February 24th, 2018 at 1:14 PM ^
http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/agents-and-amateurism
You are refusing to acknowledge that MSU was actively and knowlingly recruiting a player represented by an agent. An inelligible player and a player they knew was inelligible.
Add to this the revelation that Bridges was inelligible.
Just read this link.
http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/31400/pdf/compliance/Agent%20FAQs.pdf
February 24th, 2018 at 8:24 PM ^
Couldn't they just say the agent was acting as an advisor? Listen, I know all of this is bullshit and has been going on forever. I'm not refusing to acknowledge anything, and Bridges, apparently isn't inelligible. This is an FBI investigation, that is going to take more time to conclude, and then, after they are finished, the NCAA can look into it. That doesn't mean shit wont come out and coaches can get fired, but the NCAA isn't going to be able to actually sanction anyone or team for a while. Whatever happens between now and then is going to be a preemptive measure by the school.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^
Im not sure if its against NCAA rules but influence peddling is a crime and the FBI is involved. Im not a lawyer so Im hazy on whether this would apply in sports. You usually hear about it in the political arena. It does seem reasonable though that to trade a prospects commitment for two players signature on a contract fits the definition.
February 24th, 2018 at 8:27 PM ^
Influence peddling isn't always a crime. Agree that it is shady as hell and probably s sign that more is going on.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^
I would be amazed if Izzo makes it out of all of this with his job. Between the sexual assault stuff and now this, it would really be indefensible to keep him around. It will be another black eye for MSU and their brand.
February 24th, 2018 at 10:23 AM ^
February 24th, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
I don't think they'll fire him but I could see him retire.
February 24th, 2018 at 4:53 PM ^
It definately shows he runs a loose ship even if nothing ever gets tied to him directly.
February 24th, 2018 at 9:32 AM ^
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February 24th, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
a package deal if Winston came to Michigan. The scuttlebutt was that Bridges would go to Kentucky then.
February 24th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^