OT: Matt Shepard out as Tigers tv play by play announcer; Karsch thoughts

Submitted by GoBlue96 on October 3rd, 2023 at 11:20 AM

Wasn't a fan of Matt.  They were definitely due for an upgrade.  

To make this somewhat non OT, what's everyone's thoughts on Doug Karsch doing play by play for Michigan radio?  I've had to listen a few times this year and it was pretty rough. He frequently fails to describe key parts of plays like how many yards were gained, who caught the pass, etc. His gravelly voice is just not suited for radio.  I think Jansen does a great job doing color.  He's always well prepared for the game.  Dan Dickerson is the gold standard for radio play by play.  I'd like to see someone closer to his abilities doing Michigan games.

 

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M Ascending

October 3rd, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^

Karsch makes me long for the return of Jimmy B. He is flat out terrible.  The grating voice is unlistenable. And I want to hear how a play is developing,  not "he's at the 50, the 40, the 30, 20, 10, touchdown." That is the laziest form of play calling. 

What seals it for me is listening to how opposing teams' announcers (e.g., OSU) call the same plays. The difference is night and day.  You actually get an understanding of what is happening on the field. 

MH20

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:02 PM ^

It really felt like Brandstatter would watch each play as a fan and then remember he had to tell the listener what the hell was going on, which resulted in a bunch of breathless, crammed together words that rarely described anything meaningful. It was awful and also very unfair to him since it was clearly so outside of his abilities.

yossarians tree

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:49 PM ^

Brandy was horrible at pbp, just an old man shaking his fist at the moon. Karsch is worlds better and seems like a great dude and I wish him the best, but there is a reason why there is something called a "radio voice." It's crisp and pleasant and it carries when the excitement of a game amps up. Was recently listening to a quarter of the ECU game and when the crowd noise rose up Karsch's voice just got washed out in the din.

And I'm shocked they let Shephard go. I was not a fan when they hired him but he's grown on me. He's knowledgeable and plays well off his partners. And I hope they keep the rotating color chair because it gets stale when it's the same two guys every game, especially baseball which is every day.

 

rob f

October 3rd, 2023 at 11:43 AM ^

Glad to hear that Shep is gone--- awful voice and little true knowledge of baseball (he sounds like he's reading out of an encyclopedia).

I really hope the Tigers elevate Dan Dickerson to the job of TV play-by-play.  Better yet, simulcast the TV and radio feed.  DD is a true professional with a vast knowledge of baseball, he's genuine and warm, plus truly a fan of the 🐯 Tigers.

St Joe Blues

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:20 PM ^

Hard no on that one, rob. Summer evenings in Michigan are working or playing in the yard, sitting around the firepit or on the deck listening to Dan Dickerson on the radio. Who wants to sit inside and watch a game when you can be outside? The only thing keeping DD from being an all-time great is time. It's too bad they can't get Andy Dirks to dump his lucrative real estate business and go on the road with the Tigers. (/s) Those 2 together in the booth make it seem like they're sitting with you at the firepit shooting the breeze.

alum96

October 3rd, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^

Right.

Rob had me until he said move DD from radio.

The one sport I enjoy as much or more on radio than TV, DD is our treasure.   As a summer sport (mostly) played at a leisurely pace (although faster this year) you want that in the background of whatever you are doing. 

KO Stradivarius

October 3rd, 2023 at 2:16 PM ^

The Freep article said: 

"The Tigers and Bally Sports Detroit decided to part with Shepard after taking feedback from fans, executives and industry professionals. The decision to replace Shepard developed over time based on a lengthy evaluation process.

As for the search process, the Tigers and Bally Sports Detroit plan to be ambitious with their list of candidates. The plan is to hire someone with experience broadcasting baseball.

Radio broadcaster Dan Dickerson will not transition to TV."

Casco Goat

October 3rd, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^

Going from Rod and Mario to the current booth was roughly a thousand steps down. There's no enthusiasm, no joy, and I'm not sure how to accurately describe this but I'll try, no "I'm sitting in the bleachers with my friends talking about the game" vibe from them. It's a clinical approach.

 

As for Karsch, I can't stand his voice. He's knowledgeable, he's a fan, but I'd rather listen a random TV announcer than him (with the exception of Beth Mowins, her voice also grates me). I wish there was a way to recreate the days of Beckmann and Brandstatter, put AI to use or something. 

Boner Stabone

October 3rd, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^

I thought Shep did a good job announcing Michigan basketball on the radio and would love it if he returned in that capacity, but he was definitely out of his element in the baseball booth. 

As for Karsch, he needs to go.  I had to listen to the game this past Saturday on the radio and he was brutal.  I would think Michigan could get someone better than him. 

Blue Balls Afire

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^

I would love that, especially if they dropped all pretenses.  

"The Tigers are coming off a three-game west coast swing in which they won two out of three.  You would know that, Rod, if you weren't drunk half the time."

"Suck it, Mario.  They got great pitching out of their bullpen, unlike your mom."

"What does that even mean, asshole?  Triple play, by the way."

"You know what that means.  Great play."

NittanyFan

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^

I'd be very surprised if he was interested.  Dodgers' TV gig is about as good as it gets.  And he's well-liked among the Dodgers' fan-base as Scully's successor (which wasn't a given, it's hard to be the man who follows the man).

Even with Davis, the Tigers would still need someone for weekends (when Davis calls national FOX MLB and NFL games).

NittanyFan

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^

Just bring back Mario.  He's got another 10 years in him.  And he's a native Detroiter.

Rod Allen has done Marlins games the last 2 years.  The incident was several years ago, time has passed.  Mario's not a buffoon like Thom Brennaman, the incident shouldn't have be a career-ender.

MRunner73

October 3rd, 2023 at 12:35 PM ^

I don't know how much longer Doug Karsch can last. He'll certainly finish this season but Michigan should seriously consider a new play-by-play voice for next season. I liked Doug as a sideline reporter prior to his current gig.

Doug's future might depend on how many complaints Learfield gets. As far as I know, this is not a U of M decision. (Am not sure about who does the hiring selection)

Matt Shepard was a very fit at Michigan BB. I'd welcome him back in that role.