OT: AHSAA says "Fuck it, let's ride."
Alabama High School Athletic Asociation will announce tomorrow:
— Cole Cubelic (@colecubelic) July 23, 2020
-Fall sports to go on without delays
-Practice can begin Monday
-All students able to participate
-Band/cheer deemed “essential” & can attend home/away games
-No fan limitation
*Local systems will be able to alter
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-starr-county-hospital-forced-choose-who-sent-home-die-2020-7
I'm positive that I saw another article yesterday, or the day before with the same news in Florida. Not searching right now though.
But really, man. Almost 150k dead in six months just here, and on track for around 800k if things track the way they're looking. Come. On.
their body, their choice, isn't that the mantra?
Conveniently applied in this one instance after years of denying that basic human right to so many.
If they are smart they will stay home, if others showed any compasion toward their fellow man and wore masks themselves they would be able to go watch their children/grandchildren play.
people have proven recently that they are not very smart.
Masks don't protect "you". They protect other people from you. So, if other people in Alabama (it's Alabama) don't faithfully wear masks (again, Alabama), others are at risk from their choices.
And even if everyone is wearing a mask, if you aren't practicing some level of social distancing, then you're still at a (reduced) risk.
I don't feel like this is difficult to grasp, so I really don't understand why so many people keep falling back on the "just wear your mask and you'll be fine" trope. It's false.
It isn't going to happen. Nothing is going to happen this fall. Forced testing for K-12 public schools will be the talk by next week and shit is going to go haywire. No in-person schooling, no football, nothing. Possibly the NFL but I seriously doubt it at this point. Buckle up, as the saying goes.
AA Public Schools just decided last night to be online only to start the school year. Don't know what that means for fall sports in A2 at this point.
There are over 50 million kids in schools. We haven’t done 50 million total tests for Covid yet. Unless we quickly have a breakthrough, we won’t be testing school kids.
If we however did have such a breakthrough, wouldn’t that be a good thing? (E.g. home tests available for less than $10. We could start to do significantly more testing (including periodic testing of school kids) and be much more comfortable about opening up many more things.
No. I do not believe that forced testing of children would be a good thing. Whatever the case, it was but an example of where the rhetoric is going to go in the next month. I think we are more likely to be in a national lockdown similar to or stricter than the local ones in March than we are to see football this fall.
Why in God's name do you think that "forced testing" is a bad thing?
don, over my dead body would anybody be forcing my children to be tested unless/until i approved of said test. period, end of story.
Honestly, that he even poses the question shows you just how much trouble we are in.
Or conversely, that people so strongly push back on the idea shows us just why we are in as much trouble as we are.
Nope.
Witty rebuttal there, John.
I'd say the fact that you are more than happy to ignore that question in a variety of other contexts but have decided to take this stand on a highly contagious un-characterized virus is a much better sign of the trouble we are in.
Did you approve of each of the tests given to your newborn children?
You couldn't be more of a caricature of an internet tough guy if you tried.
i did approve of them. i also approved of the covid test one of the kids was given at the hospital a couple of months ago. my comment had to do with 'forced testing', not the idea of testing in general. you knew that but decided to make a bad comparison anyway.
and as to being a caricature, its really one of two things. i'm either a complete fraud, although you must give me the credit for being quite a good one, really a gifted con.
or
i am exactly what i represent here, as known by the many here that post or lurk, many who have met me and my entire family, even visited the farm, and some who have known me for 40 years. incidentally, that includes that i really do have at least one tractor that, given your lack of response that last time this was raised, has tires taller than you. you'd have to tell me if that's toy sized, which i think was the words you used the other day.
To each his own, but I personally would feel like I was doing much better by my kids, family and community to support testing that would ensure that there wasn’t large spread of a virus that could overwhelm hospitals and put everyone at risk not just for covid but for other health emergencies because needed medical services were overtaxed.
It's a q-tip up the nose, not drawing a liter of blood.
Have you had the test? It hurts like a son of a bitch.
I had one a couple weeks ago... maybe it depends on who's doing it or which test they're using (honestly have no idea)? Mine was uncomfortable but no pain. I thought they were going to scrape around up there, but it just took a moment and I had a runny nose for a couple minutes.
In my experience it depends on the swab (and possibly the tester). The swab made of wood hurt like hell. The more flexible plastic ones were just uncomfortable.
*This mentality really highlights how dumb this country is with regards to Corona. How is getting tested for corona any different than the multitude of other tests, vaccines, and variety of hoops that need to be jumped through for children to attend school? Why is this virus so non-special that any amount of intervention, when similar interventions are completely common place, is completely off the table?
*This is not specifically directed at XM
Like vaccines, it won't be forced.
It will be a requirement to attend public schools, and should be.
You make your choice.
So you're objecting to your child being tested for COVID-19? Would you object to your children being tested for diphtheria or whooping cough or pneumonia or bubonic plague?
i only object to the 'forced testing' (your words). i think testing is fine and indeed, i whole-heartedly approved it for one of the kids a couple of months ago when we were at the hospital.
Forced was actually Ijohnb’s words. I believe that is why Don put it in quotes.
It wouldn’t be forced testing. You want your kids in in person school, they test. You don’t, school provides at home.
Don't forget, no school sports for non tested kids either.
So, essentially the complete elimination of due process and health privacy laws as they pertain to children.
Ok, got it.
Similar things already go on for a multitude of diseases and situations, why does it only bother you with regards to Corona?
I'm sorry, did I miss something? Are you suggesting the kids are being put on trial?
Look at his posting history. Anything is on the table with that guy. He's been darkly entertaining since mid-March.
Cancel him! Cancel him NOW!!
It is no different than being required to show proof of vaccinations before enrolling your kids in school. Same damn thing, but you're probably opposed to that too.
The Supreme Court decided long ago that forced vaccinations do not violate your rights.
If your kid goes to school, feels sick and goes to the nurse, in many places (most?), they will take your kids temperature and send them home if they have a fever.
If your kid is feeling sick before going to school, you are supposed to take their temperature and if they have a fever keep them home.
Is that wrong?
I feel like this comment is somewhat similar to people in week 9 saying ok, NOW we are going to find out what this team us. Not quite, because there really are still a lot of questions about covid's heterogeneity. But in the main, we already have a pretty good idea what it looks like in various regions of the U .
That's great.
The word "essential" has really taken a beating this year
Meanwhile Sensational? fear inducing words like “surge” and “spike” are getting lots of run too, when “climb”, “rise”, “jump” and “increase” would do just fine - and if more balanced reporting garnered even a slightly better response, wouldn’t that be worth it?
Indeed. The NYT this morning will tell you that Alabama had its highest daily death toll yesterday, but you actually have to dig to find out that was only 12.
NYT graphics show 61 new deaths in AL yesterday.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/alabama-coronavirus-cases.html
Not saying you are wrong (very easy to publish inaccurate data and revise it later, especially online), but it is much higher than any previous number out of there. Still, it's nothing compared to some other states.
Oh, I may have hit the July 21 line with my fat finger. Today's the 23rd, right?
Alabama had 61 deaths yesterday. That's a lot.
To put it in perspective, on a per capita basis, that would be like 125 daily deaths in Michigan or 250 daily deaths in Florida.
But daily deaths can be misleading, as there is noise in the data (e.g., filling multiple days worth of tests & info at the same time).
So the key is to look at trends, and Alabama's trends do not make me think, "You know what? Hopsitalizations have skyrocketed (tab 9) and % of test come back positive is now at a record high of 16.6% (tab 10). Even so, it's time for football with no fan restrictions!" They're different down there.
https://alpublichealth.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/6d2771faa9da4a2786a509d82c8cf0f7
I wonder who is footing the bill for all of those extended hospitalizations...
In other words, get ready for insurance premiums to increase next year!
well that big paper sign that the players run through before the game can't hold itself....
Love it. It's not going away. Live your life.
New cases are up 59% in AL compared to two weeks ago, but I don't really give a shit what they do down there. They're going to conduct a very large epidemiological experiment on themselves, and the results will be informative in the long term.