OSU QB Recruit Quinn Ewers officially forgoing senior year and enrolling early at OSU
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:08 PM ^
After looking at this, I was surprised to see PSU at the #2 spot nationally for their recruiting class. How???
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^
they have like 24 commits. none are 5-stars
Not composite five-stars. But, Sutton (DL) is # 11 overall and a five star on Rivals. Singleton (RB) is # 26 on 247 and Saunders (WR) is # 29 on ESPN. They are in "five-star" range and could be five-stars to those respective services when they finalize their rankings.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:51 PM ^
Bc their coach has a secure contract and can sell them on future. Our coach makes less than the idiot at Illinois while every single school is using that against us. And it’s working.
August 3rd, 2021 at 10:15 AM ^
PSU will end up around 9 or 10th. They just have more recruits to factor in right now. But they still have a real solid class. If you look at teams like Alabama, OSU, Georgia etc.... they all have around 10 more recruits to fill their classes and all are battling for 4 and 5 star blue chippers. What's unreal is that losing their 2 top recruits - the 5 star DB who decommitted and QB Ewers to the 2021 class - OSU drops all the way to no 3 with an average right around 0.9400 / recruit - just unreal.
And with Ewers reclassifying to the 2021 class, they end up with 3 out of the top 5 in the country in the 2021 class - Ewers (1), that DE JT kid drops to 4, and DE Sawyer drops all the way to 5 in the Composite. With Ewers reclassifying, the OSU class (0.9498 / recruit) is right there with Alabama (0.9499). Those are the 2 greatest classes of all time - both blowing Urban Meyer's previous record of 0.9459 in 2017 out of the water. OSU is just at a different level than the rest of the B1G
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
This is good for us isn't it? He's far enough behind that he won't see the field this year, and he should be gone to the NFL after the 2023 season. This basically shortens his OSU career by 1 season. The only worry is that it opens up a window for Dante Moore to play earlier at OSU and makes them an even bigger threat in his recruitment.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:06 PM ^
If we're just being honest, what does it matter who gets the nod to play against us? Is there much difference between losing 52-14 and 69-17?
Even if Ewers only plays against Michigan 1-2 seasons, there's just going to be someone else lined up right behind him to take his place and pick up right where he left off. Some elite playmaker right off the goddamn assembly line they've built and perfected down in Columbus.
Sorry, I'm just done playing the "Thank god that guy left" game with OSU. Especially at the QB position. There is always someone right behind that guy who takes up the mantle and continues the outright domination. Someone who always somehow finds a way to be better than the guy before him. Someone who always just makes plays against Michigan, tossing 40-50 yard dimes for TDs against our secondary, skates circles around the defense for 20 yard gains on 3rd and 9, you name it.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
jesus, that was a depressing (and perfectly accurate) summary of the past... holy hell, it's literally 2 decades. wow.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:32 PM ^
"There is always someone right behind that guy who takes up the mantle and continues the outright domination."
So, is your premise then that it makes no difference who enrolls at OSU (or when)? That they will inevitably be better than their predecessor?
It seems to me that In Baugh we Trust's premise was more modest and reasonable: OSU is getting a younger version of Ewers, and younger Ewers < older Ewers. Whether that is good for UM remains to be seen on the field, of course.
But I think it is at least safe to say that this decision is to the benefit of Mr. Ewers' bank account, but not necessarily to the benefit of OSU.
It might've been a bit hyperbolic, sure, but its hard not to look at the last 15 years of OSU's QB and think to yourself "Wow, there's really been no drop-off to speak of." I also don't think its very inaccurate to say they've managed to get better in the QB room over time. For a long time they had QBs who were either elite athletes but meh passers (Miller, Barrett), or vice versa (Haskins). Now they're recruiting and developing guys who are both. Justin Fields could skate circles around you and still go 28-35 for 400 yards and 4 TDs through the air if he wanted to.
Who was the last QB they had who wasn't a playmaker, a game-changer? Better yet, who was the last QB they had who was an outright liability? You'd probably have to go back to Joe Bauserman in 2011, and OSU gave up on him pretty quick, went with Miller and never looked back.
It's a fair (and obvious) point that OSU has turned itself into a destination for elite QBs. But it's also a fairly recent phenomenon for them, relatively speaking. Terrelle Pryor was maybe the first, and both he (perhaps) and JT Barrett (probably) qualify as guys who needed particular systems to exploit their skills. Braxton Miller was certainly elite coming out of high school, but then he didn't really pan out because of injury. Haskins is really the only other one who I recall as being universally regarded as elite when he enrolled. (Burrow was of course elite, but only in retrospect). That Justin Fields chose OSU when he transferred from Georgia I think is probably solely attributable to Haskins' success there, not to anyone who came before.
Damn, this comment is just deflating. Mostly because it’s just too accurate. I just can’t get over the fact that osu dismantles the teams on their way to us and then just tears our shit up in a completely exotic fashion once we play. Like they devise something special for us year in and out. Sick of it
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^
Michigan has had literally nothing 'good' happen to them with OSU and the QB position going back to before Tressell.
Pretty much every one they have rolled out versus Michigan has been Michigan Kryptonite.
This is incredibly misinformed. Try looking up Carr's record against OSU before Tressel and then just for fun check out the QB's he had.
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:06 AM ^
going back to the start of Tressell is what I meant, otherwise I'd have said Cooper.
Regardless, its been 20 years of hoping that OSU's QB would suddenly fall on their faces...didn't happen with Krenzel, no reason to think OSU's multiple 4/5* QBs are going to suddenly falter.
If you are reaching back to the years before Tressell for examples, you've pretty much proven the argument. None of the kids Michigan is recruiting were even born then...
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:56 PM ^
I assume it'll cause some chaos in their QB room and cause at least 1 transfer.
Imagine being a 5* freshman QB coming into OSU with NIL rights just being allowed, and now nobody cares about you because a higher ranked QB just joined within your same class. Probably cost McCord thousands if not hundreds of thousands...
If Ewers is half the talent he's projected to be, he will start next year and completely clean out their vaulted QB room. None of them are coming here though. We have our own 5 star.
If you recognized the hit Stroud will take on the NIL market, he probably will too. If he's smart he'll transfer right away.
August 3rd, 2021 at 11:03 AM ^
Stroud is OSU's starting QB this year - plain and simple. He tore it up in the camps earlier in the year
Unless you'd expected him to stay on campus more than four years, then it won't affect the length of his OSU career.
1. Yes, OSU is ahead of us and it seems no matter who leaves someone better shows up.
2. I see this as an absolute win for Michigan! You now have 4 qbs brought in recently, now including two 5* freshmen, and no one with starting experience. No way they keep all that talent, some are going to leave, and it will be interesting to see how someone handles winning the starting job and seeing someone like this kid supposedly bringing in a million+ dollars.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^
Yup, we'll be on their heels any year now.
Yup, we'll be on their heels any DECADE now.
Quarter century?
I keed, I keed.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:47 AM ^
If he sees the field that can't mean good things about McCord and Stroud.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:50 AM ^
If he does see the field, those guys will definitely see the portal. Who cares at this point, just win a game against those guys.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:22 PM ^
Also:
* They'll get a bunch of wins at their new school.
* They'll get picked in the NFL draft and TOSU will claim credit for their development.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
But then that could be two transfer portal quarterbacks for Michigan to try to poach.
He'll be the starter by midseason.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:49 AM ^
How do you graduate high school and enroll in college a month before school starts? I'm sure it's possible, and admittedly, I'm not very familiar with how that process works anymore. Is he taking one class at OSU and finishing High School online?
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:51 AM ^
Apparently, all he had left to graduate was one English course that he can complete online
He will use his NIL money to hire someone to complete that for him.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^
He had the credits to graduate last schoolyear. The only class that they are required to take as seniors is an English class, which he completed this summer, so he is joining fall camp.
My follow up question then is how did he get so far ahead on his credits? Was he planning for this possibility all along and taking extra/summer classes?
Maybe it's just changing times or different circumstances, but afaik this wouldn't have even been an option at my high school when I was there. I get college, where you have a lot more freedom in crafting your schedule, but I don't ever remember an ability to take summer (or extra) classes to get ahead, they were just for those that needed to catch up because they failed the class the first time around. A couple kids tested out of high school classes and took college classes instead (typically math), but even they took four years to graduate.
My guess is yes, he was planning on graduating early. Kids do it constantly, they are enrolled in college by January. They plan for it in advance, and in some cases kids are just taking one last semester of classes that include the mandatory English class, along with a bunch of nothing. I was not a 5* football player coming out of college, and I graduated high school far too long ago to care to admit, but I spent more time at home than in school my senior year of high school because we had a school where if you had study halls butting up with lunch, you could leave for the entire time. Michigan literally has a bunch of kids that arrived in January that were supposed to just finish their senior years. They probably took English, and not much else that final semester.
My goodness, you folks are touchy.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
My son just graduated and had the chance to do this last summer - just finish his last two courses online and graduate a year early. But he chose not to. He ended up taking those courses (English & Math) online in the spring. It is very possible.
Like I've always thought: OSU does okay for a crooked program.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:50 AM ^
So this is interesting since OSU got Kyle McCord last year as the #27 player nationally to be their QB in the 2021 class. Feels like this likely accelerates one or two transfers at that position for them.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:07 PM ^
Omg they have too many 5* QBs to keep happy…..they are so fucked!
I know it sounds ridiculous but if this guy comes in and is able to steal any kind of meaningful minutes and looks to be a shoe-in to start in 2022 it would not shock me to see at least 2 but possibly 3 transfers from guys that have a lot of eligibility left.
Stroud and McCord were both top 50 composite players and Jack Miller isn't a slouch at #334 in the Composite. All 4 (including Ewers) are freshmen for eligibility. And on top of that they no longer have a QB recruited in 2022.
Here's hoping they pull a Texas A&M and screw everything up.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
I had enough credits and met all the requirements for graduation by the end of my junior year when in high school, which made my senior year mostly study halls and gym/fun classes.
I assume it’s the same/similar situation for Ewers? Seems like he’d have to at least hold a high school diploma/meet all graduating criteria as a basic requirement.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
As a big time football player from Texas, his whole HS career was likely study halls and gym/fun "classes".
Where this kid went to HS, Southlake Carroll is actually a highly ranked school academically in a very nice suburb of Dallas, although I don't know anything about his grades.
That means it's even more likely he was guided through. Money makes things happen and honesty doesn't matter.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
That’s a loaded QB room with no experience for the Buckeyes. It will be interesting to see who plays and who transfers in the next two years.
The kid is enrolling 5 months earlier than he would have, so it’s not like a full school year, and the article mentions the move may be in part to NIL $$$.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
That is a log jam at qb
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^
The fastest path to that sweet, sweet NIL cash. The trend is already apparent.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
Meh, #1 player…he would be getting paid by any elite program with or without NIL.
Now he can get paid more...above and below the table. He's obviously not selling himself short on this deal.
Their QB room can hang out and compare bank accounts...
Maybe they will implode from NIL envy..mine is bigger than yours..
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^
Makes sense for a kid in his position. He basically moves up college by 5 months since he was planning to enroll in January early anyhow, and with NIL he becomes an almost instant millionaire. That and an extra fall season to train at a collegiate rather than high school level.
For those more knowledgeable than me, is he a legitimate threat to start and play (well) for them this year? I see he already turned 18 back in March so this is probably when most kids his age would be starting college anyhow.
August 2nd, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^
Texas is not going to allow high school players to make NIL.
The next great debate? Crazy times.