August 31st, 2021 at 10:46 PM ^
Yep 5-7 as the low, likely 6-6 maaaybe 7-5. & some would still slobber Harbaugh
August 31st, 2021 at 9:18 PM ^
6-6
though 7-5 is certainly possible.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:18 PM ^
Sorry, I just can’t/won’t believe Michigan is that bad. I choose to think they could be pretty good to above average. I’m saying 9-4 or 10-3 including bowl game.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:20 PM ^
8-5 with a bowl win
August 31st, 2021 at 9:22 PM ^
8-4 best case.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:24 PM ^
10-2. We lose by two or more scores vs Wisconsin, find our footing, win in Happy Valley, get our irrational hopes up vs OSU, and lose by a lot. This year plays out a lot like 2018 (just swap ND and Wisconsin games).
August 31st, 2021 at 9:27 PM ^
Piss off, 8-4 is realistic.
Your post isn't.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:29 PM ^
Username checks out.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:37 PM ^
Because I choose the hopeful world in which I live, 10-2 The Cade era is up arrows based on his brain and talent.
The OL gels and the running game gets real while we see legit RPOs with a QB who has eyes and a brain.
The D utilizes enough disguised zone that it aids in pass D and run stop.
We are in the game with OSU. Your welcome
August 31st, 2021 at 9:41 PM ^
8-1, 3 covid sit out forfeits.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:41 PM ^
Whatever. Just fuckin play hard and look organized.
thats all we can ask right now.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:46 PM ^
To hell with you all! 14-0 National Champions!
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… Oh, I thought this was the Bama board. Nevermind then. We will win some games and have some highs, we will lose some games and have some lows. And it will still be great to be a Michigan Wolverine through it all.
Besides, the US News and World Report rankings come out in September! Bo was wrong, we can rally around a math class!
*ducks*
August 31st, 2021 at 9:46 PM ^
Ceiling: the new staffers are good. There is visible development on both sides of the ball, the defense has some flaws but is competent and never truly exposable. Gattis has the reins, one of Cade or JJ is the real deal, make the right reads, and suddenly the offense shows flashes of real danger and sustained stretches of competence that is slightly frustrating because it's not elite but overall very encouraging. Michigan surprises and wins at Wisconsin or PSU, loses the other, and loses one other game that makes us very angry at the time. We go into the OSU game with two losses, lose, but we're in the game in the third quarter and never embarrassed. Bowl season approaches with actual optimism, especially with the hockey and basketball teams looking good, and Brian is elbowing Seth out of the way to do UFRs.
Floor: It's the same HC and some of the same players that we saw not just lose last year, but utterly quit in games like Wisconsin. An early loss is objectively explainable but brings heavy negativity here, in local media, and on campus. A bad loss at Wisconsin leaves the team teetering with two losses. They patch the ship for a very shaky win at Nebraska, but then lose to MSU and the floodgates open. People call loudly for a firing before the end of the season, but Michigan will never do that; nonetheless, there are coaching search posts by a staff member by the week of the Maryland game, and Harbaugh is fired the Monday after an OSU game where the team fights gamely and still loses by 30+. 4-8
Best guess: I have a hard time seeing the team being just good, not great, and not having a meltdown, honestly. Some of that is pessimism combined with the experience of last year and 2014, both of which were meltdowns under similar circumstances. I mean, the season could easily--easily--start 3-3, and while you can still salvage a decent season out of that, people will be setting fire the furniture around here if that happens.
I'll guess 6-6, but I have hopes that 9-3 is on the table, and unlike 2014 I feel like that would be a sign of life and real progress, because to get there the offense and defense have to come closer to their potential than they have since 2018, and that means that the staff is working.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:48 PM ^
I’m just trying to figure out why everyone is so optimistic about 2022? We lose Jeter, Hutchinson, Dax, Hawkins and Ross most likely on defense. On offense I don’t see Bell or Hayes coming back and we may lose Haskins as well. That’s a lot of talent gone for next year.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:51 PM ^
Have you checked the schedule? If Harbaugh is still around and doesn’t win at least 10 games he should be fired. And if it’s a new coach and he gets the new coach bump, 10 wins is sitting there as well.
September 1st, 2021 at 12:09 AM ^
You're not wrong Jordo. I think we're all still in flux of 2021 to even have any realistic clue how 2022 is going take shape. Sad state of where we are at unfortunately.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:01 AM ^
No way we lose all of those guys. I bet we return every single offensive player. Yeah we lose 4 impact players on D (jury is still very out on Jeter and we bring back all other DL) but we have a good amount of young guys in most of those areas to fill in. Losing Hutch will suck and the safeties won't be as good, but the offense will be vast improved and the D could even be better, especially in the front 7.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:49 PM ^
Michigan has zero chance against Ohio St. Penn St. and Wisconsin. Those games will be ugly ass kickings.
Michigan will absolutely lose to Michigan St. Seth has already said that MSU’s talent is too poor this year and that is a kiss of death. In all seriousness, Tucker will be well prepared for Michigan. Harbaugh/Michigan will again look like they would be better prepared if they just read MGoBlog all week instead of whatever idiotic excuse for “game planning” happens. Michigan will struggle to make any in game adjustments other than taking the ball away from their most competent looking play makers in favor of gadgets that feature practice all-stars.
The numbers suggest Michigan should be an unacceptable 7-5. Yet injuries, Harbaugh’s amazing ability to under prepare but over coach, and a brand new defense taught and called by a first timer at both, means Michigan loses at least one game they shouldn’t to be 6-6. This team is closer to 5-7 than they are 8-4.
I want desperately to be wrong and will be at the Western game with binocs looking for any sign of it.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:47 PM ^
I don’t understand people’s fear of Penn State. James Franklin’s tenure has been a hair or two better than Jim’s and they also looked like ass last year (even though they beat us). I’m not saying we win, but counting that as a sure loss is a head scratcher to me.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:03 AM ^
I'm with you. Even though we ended up losing to Penn State last year, I think their season was worse than ours and if we would have played them earlier in the year (before every fucking player was injured) I bet we win that game for sure. At worst, that game is a toss up, I really don't understand why people think that one will be so hard.
September 1st, 2021 at 9:35 AM ^
M lost to Penn St. at home by 10 points. As others have said in this thread, it’s really on M to prove they got substantially better than PSU did since they last met.
Now M has to go beat them on the road. If history repeats itself Michigan will get behind early because they aren’t prepared or ready to go (see: last 2 times they played PSU on the road, Notre Dame on the road, Northwestern on the road, etc.) best case scenario, if M really has improved that much more than PSU, M makes a game of it in the 2nd half and still probably barely loses. But if they quit like last year’s team too often did, it won’t be close.
August 31st, 2021 at 9:52 PM ^
I say FUCK YOU!
August 31st, 2021 at 9:54 PM ^
4-8? You're not supposed to roll out despair and resignation until mid-October, sir. Credit to the OP for starting us out with what I assume to be a trolling statement, however, and before we've even played a game this time around.
In any case, based on absolutely no solid evidence, this has the feeling of a season with an 8-4 ceiling, with 7-5 being fairly realistic IMHO, and although I would love a pleasant surprise, I don't necessarily expect one. We make a bowl, but not a very interesting one.
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August 31st, 2021 at 9:57 PM ^
The hell do so many think it's trolling by guessing 4-8?! Why can someone not think that? Is 6-6 the lowest one can expect? 7-5? Even if we do take big strides this year, in football, three or even four games easily could be decided by 14, 20 pts and we realistically could happen to end up on the unlucky side of three or four of those toss up games.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:27 PM ^
Check OP posting history, this should answer your trolling question.
You are correct 4 wins are not impossible, but there is enough talent on this team if JMFH doesn't get to 6 wins....HE GONE.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:39 PM ^
six wins with this teams talent and he should be whipped publically. any coach who finishes seasons with lower rankings on the field than in recruiting is a good recruiter and a poor coach.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:02 PM ^
8-4, but it's a grind. Close wins against mediocre teams and blowouts in some conference road games.
I do think there is a wide variance here where anything between 4-8 and even 11-1 are possible.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:04 PM ^
I’ll take 8-4 Alex. Basically what DoubleB said.
Except for the 11-1 part.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:14 PM ^
We beat Ohio State
August 31st, 2021 at 10:18 PM ^
Wow, we really are miserable fans who can’t even conceive of success.
Beating Indiana is now considered overachieving and lots of people think we’ll lose to Northwestern? Isn’t Northwestern completely rebuilding and just lost their best running back for the season?
I won’t predict wins and losses but I do expect the live game thread of the Western game to go into full meltdown mode after Cade throws an incompletion.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:36 PM ^
In all fairness, the board goes into full meltdown if even if we were expected to be a title contender.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:46 PM ^
There's a lot of sad sacks on this board.
September 1st, 2021 at 1:05 AM ^
Northwestern will be terrible, possibly worse than Western. They will be the easiest Big Ten team we play all season.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:20 PM ^
Yeah, 4-8 is way too pessimistic. I mean, gun to your head, that's really what you would go with? You really think they lose to Nebraska, Northwestern and MSU?? 7-5 feels the most realistic to me. I'll be happy with anything better than that.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:21 PM ^
If we decide scoring points is more important than time of possession: 9-3
If we continue with the kill the clock offense: 5-7
August 31st, 2021 at 10:32 PM ^
Predictions are for gypsies.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:48 PM ^
10-2.
Only one team has more talent than Michigan. Two have equal talent.
we pull off one upset and win the games we should.
August 31st, 2021 at 10:52 PM ^
I’m feeling optimistic to get disappointed again. Michigan goes 10-1 with a loss to Western Michigan, then loses to Ohio State on a last second Hail Mary. ?
10-2 and bowl game against Florida gets canceled.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:04 PM ^
8-5. If we go 8-4, we’ll get an SEC team in a Florida bowl game and lose. If we go 7-5, we’ll get a winnable bowl game.
My actual prediction is that Michigan will play football games and I will watch them. Some will be fun, some will be depressing, and I will watch them all. I may wear out the fast forward button skipping commercials. I’m not wasting 4 hours of my life anymore watching Michigan football every Saturday. 2 hours is fine, though.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:15 PM ^
So what do you do with the other 2 hours?
August 31st, 2021 at 11:30 PM ^
Watch other games… sigh.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:29 PM ^
Perhaps I want to set myself up to be pleasantly surprised….
This team has the talent to win 9 games, not convinced it has the coaching to win 5
Will lose our last 4 and not make a bowl
August 31st, 2021 at 11:29 PM ^
Probably 7 or 8 wins.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:31 PM ^
i think this is a 4 to 11 win team. i think the right coaching with the right system the talent is there for a 10 win season and a bowl win. Staee did as much with less talent for years. The big question is where does our current coaching staff land us on that spectrum? Season will tell the tale.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:51 PM ^
This is the right take. We have 2 position groups that seem weak, but more talent than 11 teams on our schedule. I understand the pessimism towards our coaching staff (we saw the wheels come off last year) but no one knows.
August 31st, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
11-1, loss to Wisconsin