Michigan ranked 19th in AP Poll, 18th in coaches

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Other notables:

Coaches-

1) Alabama

2) Miami

3) Clemson

4) Wisconsin

5) Oklahoma

8) OSU

9) Notre Dame

11) PSU

24) MSU

AP-

1) Alabama

2) Miami

3) Oklahoma

4) Clemson

5) Wisconsin

8) OSU

9) Notre Dame

13) PSU

22) MSU

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TrueBlue2003

November 12th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^

Certainly not USC who they curb stomped by a similarly lopsided score.  PSU who hasn't beaten a team that is currently ranked, and thus should possibly be ranked behind MSU?  UCF who not only hasn't beaten a team that is currently ranked but hasn't even played one? WSU who lost even worse to Cal?

ND is where they should be.  Not many teams without a really bad performance or two this year. They've destroyed two teams that are currently ranked which is something no one behind them can claim.

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TrueBlue2003

November 13th, 2017 at 1:35 AM ^

and while we're making corrections, ND actually destroyed (won by 20+) THREE currently ranked teams now that NC State is also ranked (in addition to USC and MSU).

So, again, does anyone think PSU which lost to a team that was destroyed by ND, should be ranked ahead of ND?

No one behind them has an argument to be ahead of them.

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Doc Mango Gibbs

November 12th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^

They also destroyed Stanford at home, and they didn't lose by 30 to Iowa.  Their wins and losses are both better than OSU's.

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TrueBlue2003

November 12th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^

by 35 (!!!) to ND.  A team you also purport to be overrated. 

Why would USC get a pass for that and OSU doesn't get a pass for Iowa?  Nearly equally terrible performances.  And then OSU just beat a ranked team 48-3.  48-3.  That's better than USC's win over Stanford.  OSU's win over PSU is much better than USC's win over....whoever the second best team is that they've beaten. OSU deserves to be ranked ahead of USC.

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Muttley

November 12th, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^

if you consider the conference swim lanes
  1. Bama 
  2. Miami/Clemson winner
  3. Okla
  4. Wiscy
  5. ND (Should be rejected, but there's not a lot of great teams out there) 
  6. USC/Wash St/Washington (could easily be rejected)

IME, the only way a conference gets two in is if the other swim lane winners can be rejected as "No way a Top 4 team" (e.g. a big, multi-loss conf champ game underdog pulls a one-game upset)

Now, I expect Michigan to knock Wisky & OSU out of playoff consideration.

Take that, Zillies!

https://youtu.be/sj6-LG5VpGk?t=27s

http://hanna-barbera.wikia.com/wiki/Zilly

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TrueBlue2003

November 12th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^

could/should be Wisky/East winner (if only 2 losses).

And your 1 line still has to be Bama/UGA winner.

A two-loss Big Ten champ would certainly get in over a two loss PAC12 champ and almost certainly get in over ND.  The only other way the Big Ten champ doesn't get in is if the ACC or SEC loser has one loss and gets in as the second team from that respective conference.

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Frigid

November 12th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

It means we would be currently in position to jump other teams with some good wins. FWIW I think from what the committee said we were JUST out of the top 25 last week, 26th or 27th. The bowls more or less use CFP to rank teams in their respective conferences. So it would determine if a NY6 bowl is still in our sights.

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Muttley

November 12th, 2017 at 6:25 PM ^

The committee has shown that its rankings are not nearly as path-dependent as the AP & Coaches polls (before they started to ape the committee's rankings with a week lag).

We're not in the committee's rankings because we don't have a good win.  If we beat Wiscy, that gets fixed and we likely get placed in the neighborhood of the current two-loss teams in the rankings, say mid-to-high teens.  If we follow up with a win over OSU, the committee likely ranks us high enough to go to a NY6 bowl. (The non-playoff bowls are a business.)

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Frigid

November 12th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

It means we would be currently in position to jump other teams with some good wins. FWIW I think from what the committee said we were JUST out of the top 25 last week, 26th or 27th. The bowls more or less use CFP to rank teams in their respective conferences. So it would determine if a NY6 bowl is still in our sights.

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uferfan

November 12th, 2017 at 2:37 PM ^

should tell you all you need to know about the current state of college football.

There's about 3 or 4 real top 10 teams and everyone else is just a jumbled pile of poo. Voters are probably just as confused as the rest of us as to where to slot this big bunch of parody.

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macdaddy

November 12th, 2017 at 2:40 PM ^

Seems about right.

And ND is ranked in the top 10 because they're ND. Apparently there are a few people out there who support the football squad from South Bend. Misguided fools.

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I'm Batman

November 12th, 2017 at 2:42 PM ^

Does anyone have an issue with this? Sure you barely lost to the #1 team, but you still lost. They also have a 28 pt loss to Georgia, and a 39 pt loss to Auburn.

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LSAClassOf2000

November 12th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^

LINK - AP Poll Tracker with who voted and where they voted

There were still seven voters who did not have us ranked, but a decent spread with one vote as high as #15 and another four at #16 on the high end. 11 voters went with #19.

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