Michigan ranked 19th in AP Poll, 18th in coaches

Submitted by Bambi on November 12th, 2017 at 2:16 PM

Other notables:

Coaches-

1) Alabama

2) Miami

3) Clemson

4) Wisconsin

5) Oklahoma

8) OSU

9) Notre Dame

11) PSU

24) MSU

AP-

1) Alabama

2) Miami

3) Oklahoma

4) Clemson

5) Wisconsin

8) OSU

9) Notre Dame

13) PSU

22) MSU

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Doc Mango Gibbs

November 12th, 2017 at 2:56 PM ^

Hang on, Mississippi State lost and moved UP? What?

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mischill

November 12th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

That shows you how much it’s perceived that it’s Alabama and everyone else. Get a close loss to Bama and you get treated like it’s a win. Man, I sure wanted them to take that loss.

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Perkis-Size Me

November 12th, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^

Close win to Bama = a good loss, or a moral victory. Bama will continue getting the benefit of the doubt as long as they keep winning and as long as Saban is still there.

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Frigid

November 12th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^

So many top 15 lost bigly. There's really only 5 or so dominant teams and a bunch of really good teams this year. So Mississippi State is in tier 2 at the lower end which is probably where they belong.

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Carcajou

November 12th, 2017 at 11:31 PM ^

SEC!

The rule is still in effect:
If a team loses to another in another P5 or G5 conference, it is a mark on the loser, and a mark on the strength of the conference.

Whenever an SEC team loses to another of SEC, it is proof of the strength of the SEC.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention!

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BlueMk1690

November 12th, 2017 at 3:00 PM ^

but it feels like in the high teens is kind of the "Lloyd Zone". Heck even if we lose the next two but win the bowl..9-4 would be right there as a fairly normal Michigan season.

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Zeke21

November 12th, 2017 at 3:30 PM ^

should be out of top 25 after last weekend performances.

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Stringer Bell

November 12th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^

I think ND is still good. MSU is a mediocre team that should be 5-5

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SDCran

November 12th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^

Why is losing by 50 worse than losing by 1, but losing by 1 isn’t more impressive than losing by 50?

If you are the #25 team and you play #1, and you make a last second FG to win, you would move up 5-10 spots. Why not move up 1-2 if you lose close? Do you think the #26 beating a body bad opponent by 7 proves they are better than you?

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Muttley

November 12th, 2017 at 8:09 PM ^

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Carcajou

November 12th, 2017 at 11:16 PM ^

The polls over-reward and punish for wins and losses (based on their pre-conceived notions).

I find it even more absurd for counting multiple overtime wins or losses the same as thrashings in regulation.

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SD Larry

November 12th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^

Sparty. Beat Wisconsin.

Miss. State - Bama game was a heckuva game last night. One of the best I've seem this year and SEC games usually boring. Jalen Hurts threw a long td pass on a dime after a bit of a scramble, looks improved. Miss. State was impressive and competitive with Bama the whole game. Tough loss for them.

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AmayzNblue

November 12th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^

Disclaimer: I know polls are stupid, meaningless, etc.

With that disclaimer given on the front end, I laugh at the inconsistencies. Michigan gets plowed by PSU (a top 5 team) and gets shoved out of the top 25 by all polls. MSU gets plowed by OSU far worse than we did against PSU but still manage to be in the top 25??? Lulz

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rice4114

November 12th, 2017 at 4:58 PM ^

With a 3rd loss

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BlueMk1690

November 12th, 2017 at 5:40 PM ^

We have none, they have two. Do you think random sports media people around the country all have a preference for MSU? It's more like the polls will forgive bad losses if you have good wins. We don't have a good win.

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Solecismic

November 12th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^

It's impossible to create a poll that doesn't have individual game arguments against any ranking. Just look at the results between Penn State, Iowa, Ohio State and Michigan State alone. I'd rather go to an accumulated strength of schedule system (full points for a win, something like 30% for a loss), for determining playoffs. But then you can get screwed by a sudden decline in opponents you expected to be good (Florida) when scheduling the game. College football is just hard to assess. That said, Michigan has yet to beat a team with a winning record. AFAIC, they have to show something. If they beat Wisconsin Saturday, on the road, that's showing a lot of somethings and they should rocket up the rankings.

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Year of Revenge II

November 12th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^

Where we should have been ranked last week, so we got screwed by a spot or two this week.

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markusr2007

November 12th, 2017 at 6:13 PM ^

If they beat UW in Madison then rank them.
But to date Michigan hasnt beaten any team of consequence and has lost two conference games, one a blow out.

In the grand scheme of things Michigan’s ranking means nothing except to help Wisconsin and Ohio State build a case for their own season’s.

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jmblue

November 13th, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^

Can you think of 25 teams more deserving of a ranking? There’s the rub.

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mgobleu

November 12th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^

Can't wait to see where they put us in two weeks after two top ten wins.

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YourMom42

November 12th, 2017 at 7:29 PM ^

Good stuff!

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Dorothy_ Mantooth

November 12th, 2017 at 8:19 PM ^

If UM doesn’t beat Wisky a/o osu - they shouldn’t be in the top 25 UM moved up the rankings this week to help add luster to the UW - UM game, as UW is the last hope for the B10 in the CFP...and THAT ain’t gonna happen

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SpilledMilk

November 12th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^

I would bet a large sum of money that if OSU wins out + a win over an undefeated Wisconsin team in the B1G title game... They're in the damn playoffs. If you don't think that the committee would find a way to rationalize including them, then you haven't been paying attention. Sports illustrated said the same thing today as well

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funkywolve

November 12th, 2017 at 11:59 PM ^

This weekend went almost perfectly for OSU. The Pac-12 and ND were just about eliminated from the playoffs. OSU will probably be ranked around 8th in the CFP rankings, and a bunch of teams in front of them have head to head matchups. Auburn/Bama still have to play and the winner plays Georgia in the SEC title game. Miami and Clemson play in the ACC title game and OSU would get Wisky in the Big Ten title game. OSU definitely isn't a lock to make the playoffs but a nice lane opened up for them this weekend.

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