Michigan needs to use Alabama's offense as a blueprint
After watching the Orange Bowl this evening, I've begun asking myself why Michigan can't be like Alabama offensively. While not on their same level, we have similar personnel. Shea is not Tua, but is a pretty accurate QB who is also decently mobile. Both teams are loaded at the WR position. Both teams have a solid run game with good RBs. The only main difference is that Alabama's OL is better, but our OL is improving.
Overall, we have relatively similar offensive personnel to work with but Alabama is utilizing their personnel much more effectively. A balanced attack that isn't predictable. A steady dose of RPOs and giving the ball to weapons in space. Using the run to set up the pass.
Harbaugh needs to take a good look at the best team in the country and see that we aren't so different. Maybe learn a thing or two from Saban about adapting to modern times and updating your offense
December 30th, 2018 at 12:56 AM ^
I agree that a little self-reflection is in order by our coach.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:58 AM ^
This is what we saw after last year's game, and expected the product of that self reflection this year. Guess it's time for double-secret self reflection.
December 30th, 2018 at 2:34 AM ^
To be fair, Harbaugh fired a close friend and hired Warriner and we installed zone read looks and a shotgun-heavy attack. It wasn't enough, but it was a change.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^
....and we run the ball up the middle / off tackle on most every 1st down, even when behind.
December 30th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
I know it's coming. You know it's coming. My eight year old knows it's coming. You think the defense doesn't know it's coming? Oh wait, they f-ing TELL you to your FACE in pressers after the game that they knew out was coming, yet you continue to waste at least a down on every set to put in your "bOdy BlOwzZ", FFS.
More like body blows against an offense that can't get a fucking rhythm to save their lives, now you're behind the sticks and they can tee up on Shea all day. Some dumbassery if I've ever seen it.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^
I don't know if he fired Tim Drevno. I think Tim Drevno felt demoted, and left. But before hiring Ed Warinner Jim Harbaugh had to have known something of what was going to happen to his friendship, and working relationship, with Tim Drevno. So yeah, there had to be some tough moments for Jim Harbaugh in making that move.
The same may have been going now with Pep Hamilton. It is unimaginable to think Pep Hamilton will be on the sidelines at Michigan next year. But reality can be stranger than fiction.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^
When you are paid $7M, it's business. You don't get to run it like it's your personal hunting lodge.
Saban is good at this. Bill Belichick is good at this. Joe Gibbs is good at this. Roger Penske is good at this.
They all understand it's a business. They make constant personnel decisions and changes based on what is good for the business.
It's not about keeping old friends hanging around. Join a bowling league for that.
December 30th, 2018 at 12:58 AM ^
and maybe players too?
December 30th, 2018 at 12:59 AM ^
December 30th, 2018 at 11:04 AM ^
Not sure our current crop of RB’s are on par with the three (3!) 5* RB’s that Bama used last night.
December 30th, 2018 at 5:08 PM ^
For sure! Gary might be in Bama’s DL rotation, but he would not be special. Maybe Bush is the starter and a star there... but no one else. Winovich probably wouldn’t crack the Buckeye rotation, much less Bama’s. To become more like Bama, you need to recruit like Bama... and a bunch of 4/3-stars doesn’t do it.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:02 AM ^
Lets get their "trainer" to come show up how much we need to inject. I mean how to cover up doping.. I mean their daily meal planning to building strength.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
Alabama can actually run the ball on teams with a pulse, so there's that.
This is all still Clappy's fault, right?
December 30th, 2018 at 2:44 AM ^
For setting our OL back a decade? Absolutely it is. We should have fourth and fifth year studs, reloading every year up front. It doesn't matter what offense we're trying to run, if we can't run it at all.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:10 AM ^
That goes back to the end of last decade and a) empty cupboard; b) poor OL recruiting by RR; c) poor OL coaching and development by RR's staff; d) any or all of the above
Clappy inherited a mess but unfortunately didn't do nearly enough to clean it up and improve it.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:01 AM ^
Jh decided to only take 3 OL in his first full class. That is completely his fault. He should have taken at least 6 in each of his first classes knowing the depth situation on the OL.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:04 AM ^
BS. Stop blaming past coaches for the OL failures or shortcomings of today. Harbaugh will be starting his 5th year here, entirely with players he's recruited. This year in particular, there are no more of these fictional excuses to hide behind. Yesterday, that OL did not get good push or open holes pretty much all day. Again, all Harbaugh recruited O-linemen.
December 30th, 2018 at 10:35 AM ^
At what point does JH become responsible for the continual train wreck that is our O line? Year 7 or 8, maybe?
I would love to have a job where I'm highly paid but can still blame the guy I replaced for any issues when I'm 4 years in.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^
Even though Alabama can run the ball with 5-star RBs and OL, they still don't just bash their heads against the wall in the middle of the line series after series.
They have adapted, even with their talent advantage. Their offense looks quite different than it did even 5 years ago.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
I agree with the OP.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
We need to get to around a 60 percent pass to 40 percent run ratio. We need to improve the most in designing 10-20 yard pass plays. There's no reason why we can't run these plays consistently with our receivers and the OL doesn't have to hold up for very long.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:46 AM ^
Yes ... faster evolving plays is the key. Less than 2 or 3 secs and get the ball out ...... It is what we really don't have / miss.
December 30th, 2018 at 3:22 AM ^
This.
So infuriating to watch us run routes that take 3-5 seconds before receivers are open, when pass protection (read: OL) is not our strength and hasn't been for years. I just don't know what the staff really expects, and, to make it worse, they keep doing it throughout games. It's like they're content to continue smashing their head against the wall.
Before this year, the Giants had one of the consistently worst OLs in the NFL for probably 2-3 years. Their staff did one thing ours hasn't done with this problem: they thought about it.
The result? An offense featuring a heavy dose of quick slants, leaks, and other short to intermediate passes. Granted, Eli hasn't been a starting caliber QB in years, so the offense wasn't a world-beater, but it at least functioned and made sense, which allowed them to hang in games. We need to look to a similar approach--lots of (relatively) quick developing routes that can consistently beat man coverage (slants, crossing routes, etc.).
December 30th, 2018 at 9:17 AM ^
I'd also add that having shorter dropbacks and quicker developing routes does one of the things you tried to do all season: keep your quarterback healthy. The longer they're back there, the more they are a target. When they have to improvise, they become a bigger target. I'm not just saying Shea. It felt like a lot of the pressures and sacks were a result of a long dropback.
Alabama ran so many slants yesterday, I feel like we barely run any. There aren't quick route options. It's those plodding wait and sees that we kept running all year. You have a capable stable of quarterbacks. You have very good receivers. Get it to your receivers quicker. Unless that's the problem too.
Like I get trying to coach to the pros, but you've got to coach what is effective and going to help you win first. The longer route plays shouldn't be the core of the passing game.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:20 AM ^
I'm not sure it even has to get to 60/40. But a passing game somewhere between screens and bombs is definitely needed. And more passing on first down is critical.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:06 AM ^
If you think the personnel Michigan has is similar to Bama's.... Bama's oline is light years better then what Michigan has right now and UM's running backs aren't even close to Bama's. Higdon wouldn't even see the field if he was on Bama's roster.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Yeah, I honestly don’t think we have an offensive player who could start for Bama. DPJ maybe? Not sure, Bama has 3 WRs who are probably better.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:12 AM ^
Not saying we are similar talent wise, but in terms of the make up and types of players both teams have, they're similar
December 30th, 2018 at 2:03 AM ^
Other big issue with personnel ..... and I am sure no one wants to hear this .... and most of us already know this. Michigan is (far and away) harder academically and many of the recruits on Alabama's roster would not qualify to play at Michigan. That is an issue when trying to get better talent here as well. It's just a fact. At Michigan student's don't "play" school, they actually have to buckle down and get to it.
But I do agree .... take a look and take things that will work. Never stop learning and evolving, especially on offense.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:06 AM ^
Bama runs a power spread. Love it and we need to run it.
As for similar personnel? LOL. Not even close. The talent they have across the board on offense blows ours away.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^
Not the same talent but the same type of players
December 30th, 2018 at 1:15 AM ^
Not really either. We need more speed at WR and RB, and need a more athletic and accurate QB to have similar type players.
We have an offense with 2 big possession WRs and a big possession TE. Bama has all DPJ type athletes at WR and an athletic TE. I think we’d need to make some personnel changes to run the power spread. But not wholesale ones.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:11 AM ^
I'm not saying we're up to par in terms of talent. But in terms of the make up of both teams, they're similar
December 30th, 2018 at 2:40 AM ^
You don't get the point. The reason Bama is so good is because of the talent of the players, not the "type" of players. If Bama had the same type of players as us with same talent level as us they'd also go 10-3.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:23 AM ^
This is all a moot point. The options aren't that we have to be Alabama or otherwise we are Rutgers.
The point is that we can can get better than we are by emulating some of what Alabama does, and the fact that even with their superior talent advantage, they adapted their offense approach to keep up with modern college football.
When we used to question the merits of a "pro style" approach, we would look at Alabama and note that it at least worked when you have 4/5 star talent running it.
Now, not even Alabama runs it despite all their 4/5 star talent. Do you think they know something we don't?
December 30th, 2018 at 11:43 AM ^
What I'm saying is that if our offensive personnel was to straight up run Alabama's offense, I believe we'd have a massive amount of success regardless of the talent gap. I obviously don't think we'd be as good as Bama, but it would be far better than what we have now
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Lmao! We won’t ever be a finger nail of what this Alabama dynasty is. We aren’t even a top 15 team this year.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:13 AM ^
That's way off base. We are without question a Top 10 team this year. One bad game and a bowl game without key starters doesn't change that.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:53 AM ^
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us drop to 11 or 12 in the final rankings. Top 10 teams beat other top 10 teams occasionally. We don’t.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^
You're smoking crack if you seriously believe Michigan is a top ten team. Go rewatch the last 2 games (and msu and Indiana and ND- with friggin brandon wimbush!). If you still believe that's a top ten team..... there's no hope for you. You have no ability to look at Michigan with any kind of logic and reason.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
TING!!
There are easily 10 other teams that could do to us what Florida did to us, with or without the players that sat out.
Not a top ten team.
That was a mirage caused by playing some very weak competition in the middle of the season.
We thought we might lose to Wisconsin / MSU / Penn State in the middle of the season. When we won, everybody thought it was because we were top ten. Turns out it was because those teams just sucked.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Getting tired of people starting threads to share their snowflakes, but at least this one is correct.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Ummmm...
Every one of their players look upper 20s - 30 years old. That might have something to do with it. They are definitely doing something “right”
December 30th, 2018 at 11:15 AM ^
Well..... josh jobe is a legit 20 year old freshman...... Calvin Ridley was a 19yr old freshman.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Our new offensive coordinator?
Jay-Z. We're going to dominate the airwaves.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:24 AM ^
What's Beyonce's title?
December 30th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
She works with wide receivers.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:10 AM ^
Harbaugh hates plays in space. If it isn’t accomplished in a battle with toughness and strength than it isn’t real football. And we can’t play fake football
December 30th, 2018 at 2:17 AM ^
LOL. Why does every yard we gain on offense feel like a sweaty WW1 knife fight in a muddy trench? We're the top ranked public university on planet Earth. Why can't we devise clever offensive plays that torch good opposing teams every now and again?
December 30th, 2018 at 7:17 AM ^
Because Harbaugh is stuck in his mid-1980s B1G playing days. He'll just keep using that tired old offensive scheme that he grew up with. Just like RR kept forcing his DCs to run the ill-suited 3-3-5 defense.