Bambam

August 10th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^

Well shit. If it turns out that any current players are involved I'd expect some suspensions to be handed down. 

Hopefully it's from charities or players that have left the program and no key players are tied up in this. 

Tyler1495

August 10th, 2018 at 9:22 PM ^

Wonder how long it’d take to find out if any current players are involved hopefully a couple of days at most

njvictor

August 10th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^

As we should be if we broke the rules, however, it's possible that these were sold by players that have already graduated or people connected to the program. Players aren't the only ones who get these shoes. If players did sell them, however, they should be punished

Carcajou

August 10th, 2018 at 9:33 PM ^

So, especially in light of what's been going on elsewhere, sounds like Beilein/Harbaugh needs to get out in from of this with his players. Have a team meeting and say, "anyone who has sold or given away any equipment, or been approached to do so, or knows anything about anyone else being approached about such thing, needs to stay behind. This is your chance to come clean. The consequences will be much greater if wait to do so later."
Then have compliance people thoroughly interview them.

Think What Would Tressel Do? Or Urban? Then take the higher road

AZBlue

August 10th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^

I would hope/imagine M started to address/ look into this as soon as M shoes came up in that store owner interview as part of the UNC shoe-related suspension story.

Also - are we sure that MBB and Football are the only programs that get special shoes?  (In addition to the non-team people/donations.). I think Ira noted on WTKA that he saw a pair of size 9’s on the site.  Not sure any/many on those teams wear shoes that small.

HenneGivenSunday

August 10th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^

Based upon them being tagged with identifiers for which players sold them, I’d assume that this should be fairly simple to investigate and suspend players accordingly.  I don’t love that this may have happened, but it does happen.  It’ll be a good teaching moment.  

DrMantisToboggan

August 10th, 2018 at 9:46 PM ^

Yeah, probably 4 games. Nine of the thirteen UNC players got 4 game suspensions. The nice thing for us, were any of our guys to be suspended, is that we have three fairly easy games in our first four. The issue is that giant one in week one. Hopefully, if there's anyone on the team to be suspended, it's only depth guys.

Goggles Paisano

August 11th, 2018 at 7:47 AM ^

UNC was allowed to stagger their suspensions, so not all 13 guys sit for the same games.  Some will sit in the beginning, middle and end of the season.  

One of stupidest rules and extremely harsh punishments for breaking.  You lose 1/3 of your season for selling your own stuff.  And I don't need the "rules are rules" lecture either.  We all break the rules everyday when we drive by going over the speed limit by 5-10 mph.  The big picture here is that the punishment is ridiculous and does not fit the crime. Given the shit going on today across campuses all over the country, this is where the NCAA chooses to focus their efforts - on kids selling their own shoes.  Absurd!    

J.

August 11th, 2018 at 11:15 AM ^

It seems absurd if you categorize it as "kids selling their own shoes."

It seems less absurd if you categorize it as "kids receiving up to $20K in cash from boosters."

Some of the numbers that are floating around are 4K/pair for shoes, 5 pairs per athlete.  And that's just prices on a public website; who knows if boosters reaching out directly to kids are offering more.

aDifferentSeth

August 10th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^

Someone mentioned this the other day, but there's at least 1 current bball player who has been trying to sell gear on his Insta story.  D. Walton also has posted A TON of Michigan gear/shoes for sale on his Insta (after he left the program).

Shop Smart Sho…

August 11th, 2018 at 12:32 AM ^

I'm 6'2" and wear a 12 in Nike and a 11.5 in Adidas. I'd guess you're looking at one of the bigger wings for 15s and 16s, or maybe one of the smaller centers. 

Now, if they're from football players, it's going to be a different story just because of the weight they're carrying making it more likely they have bigger feet.

Michiganman0808

August 10th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^

I've got no issues with athletes selling stuff that is given to them,  however,  if they sign a form saying they won't... uh oh. 

Leaders And Best

August 10th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^

Am I the only one who sees this as a good thing in terms of timing? Better to have this happen at the beginning of the season than in the middle of Big Ten play or possibly after having played ineligible players. And now compliance will be able to better deal with this moving forward by possibly instituting a system similar to Oregon if it is found some of our players were involved.

Who knows how many people are provided gear that are associated with the program so I wouldn't automatically assume it was tied to current players. Hopefully none of our guys were involved, but it is better to address it now and move forward.

Hold This L

August 11th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^

With the huge exodus of players from the football team via the draft/graduation, coaching changes, and transfers, I’m curious to see how many of these are from players/coaches leaving the program. I would hope at least the starters on the football and basketball teams would know better than to jeopardize their eligibility with something like this. 

aaamichfan

August 10th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^

I'm honestly not thaaaaaaaat worried here. If you think about it, we've had quite a few guys leave the program in the last 2.5 years since this Nike deal happened, and for sure those are the guys selling shoes to a site like this. 

If you're a guy like Kingston Davis, of course you are selling the free shoes if they will give you $4500. Or any of the other 50 guys who have graduated/nonrenewed/left the program in the last 2.5 years.

aaamichfan

August 10th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^

I'm honestly not thaaaaaaaat worried here. If you think about it, we've had quite a few guys leave the program in the last 2.5 years since this Nike deal happened, and for sure those are the guys selling shoes to a site like this. 

If you're a guy like Kingston Davis, of course you are selling the free shoes if they will give you $4500. Or any of the other 50 guys who have graduated/nonrenewed/left the program in the last 2.5 years.

Tyler1495

August 10th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^

True. I didn’t even think about it. Worst case scenario we lose players for four games with 3 of those games being gimmes. It’d be disappointing to be missing key contributors for Notre Dame though 

aaamichfan

August 10th, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^

Notre Dame, MSU, Northwestern, Rutgers, OSU.........Honestly I don't feel too bad about it. As long as they don't get fucked by injuries this year, they finally should have the talent to win any of these games. 

gustave ferbert

August 11th, 2018 at 7:37 PM ^

first of all.  Yes. . .and it started with Steinbrenner taking out Drew Henson.  Secondly,  if I'm so off base, why doesn't Tressel still have his job.  OSU tried to keep him until the NCAA made it unbearable.   Then Osu brought in another snake and that is playing out right now. .  And you're very astute to not say OSU won 15 times, because they had to vacate one of those wins. 

OSU is the most crooked program in football.  But the entire state backs it and protects.  Note, Powell Police not releasing police reports.  How convenient.

Go Blue in MN

August 10th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^

Damn it.  Watch the NCAA make an example out of us and knock us on scholarships if a couple players sold shoes.

Seriously, let's keep our fingers crossed that we don't have an eligibility problem with last year's Final Four team.

HenneGivenSunday

August 10th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^

Here’s a thought I just had... if the football team generates around 200 pairs/year of these, and the Nike contract has been for 2 full seasons that’s around 400 total pair of these shoes.  So, 23 would be 5.75% of the total that ended up on this site.  23 sounds like a lot, but that percentage of the total seems fairly low?  Current players shouldn’t be selling them, but I’d be interested to know what the overall percentage is of people receiving them that could legally sell them.