Miami trending to flip another top rated osu recruit. RB Jordan Lyle
Wiltfong recently changed his crystal balls from osu to Miami (ytm). That’s a pretty big loss. Not like they don’t have other backs in the class but you hate to see it happen.
as an aside, who is funding Miami?
December 16th, 2023 at 7:04 AM ^
Heck if everyone keeps jumping ship maybe Aaron Scott decides to join the good guys too!
December 16th, 2023 at 8:00 AM ^
A freshman isn't beating Michigan next year. Honda might have, but not a freshman...
December 16th, 2023 at 12:06 PM ^
I just looked up Jeremiah Smith when I saw this headline. One FSU site puts the odds at 51% of flipping Smith. I'd love to get Scott or West at Michigan, but OSU losing Smith and/or Norland would be symbolic.
December 16th, 2023 at 1:23 AM ^
Rickey Rose!!
December 16th, 2023 at 5:00 AM ^
While we want to LOL, let's hope there's no flipping until Jordan Marshall signs his LOI.
As long as NIL is unregulated, it will be hard to pull those south Florida 4-5 star guys. It will be interesting to see what happens to their program if they have to adopt more of a Midwest recruiting strategy. 9 of their 22 verbal commits are from SEC states.
December 16th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^
Jordan Marshall is one guy you don’t have to worry about.
December 16th, 2023 at 5:08 AM ^
Whose funding Miami? If I had to guess it's could have something to do with Drew Rosenahus
December 16th, 2023 at 8:02 AM ^
Miami is an internationally famous international finance school. They have plenty of money in the alumni base...
December 16th, 2023 at 12:34 PM ^
So you're saying they're international then?!
December 16th, 2023 at 6:37 AM ^
Miami best asset is its proximity to the sun.
Roughly 800 or so miles closer than plain ole Ohio.
December 16th, 2023 at 6:39 AM ^
Boy, would it be fun to see OSU's recruiting class completely implode come early signing day.
We can all visualize Ryan's reaction when he learns all of his top recruits bolt to sign for other programs
December 16th, 2023 at 3:36 PM ^
Toughen up Ryan
December 16th, 2023 at 7:00 AM ^
Miami seems to have its little cart before the horse. It should be dedicating more effort to establishing a coaching staff before ruining the careers of good, unsuspecting recruits.
One does hate seeing OSU being endangered by a swirling toilet bowl. It surely is amusing to see them claiming to have a strong culture-which they do seem to have-just not good one.
All indications are that Day is struggling here. He's a great recruiter, and OC, but is otherwise in over his head as an HC.
December 16th, 2023 at 9:59 AM ^
Nonsense. Struggling as head coach ? They almost beat us in AA. Day is a very good coach, but lets hope they move on.
December 16th, 2023 at 12:51 PM ^
"Almost" is just another L. Just like every other team Michigan played this year, they never led in the second half-even worse, they never led in the game.
Day, with all the football resources at his disposal, is an average HC. He does not have the demeanor nor, evidently, the ability to assemble a staff of assistants that are good enough.
December 16th, 2023 at 3:14 PM ^
I actually enjoy watching ohio struggle and hear their fans piss and moan.
December 16th, 2023 at 7:18 AM ^
Miami has no college atmosphere, has been mediocre over the last two decades, has had funding issues and they still pump money into their program.
But they understand that having a relevant program is good for business.
December 16th, 2023 at 7:53 AM ^
I think Seth has always said... "if your main draw is money, there will always be someone who offers more." MSU found this out and now OSU is finding out. This is why I prefer Michigan's method of recruiting/NIL. It weeds out all the guys who are just about getting paid and brings in guys who actually want to learn, grow, and win. Michigan offers so much more than just $$$, and the smart, driven recruits will see or have seen that. Thus why we've done so well in the portal, by their 2nd or 3rd year these kids realize that if they want long-term, generational money from the NFL, they need to go where they develop. $1 million as an 18-year-old is great, but also fleeting, 80 million as a 25-year-old changes everything.
December 16th, 2023 at 9:47 AM ^
Let's not get it twisted, Michigan has been able to hold on to recruits because they made the playoffs three years in a row. That's it.
December 16th, 2023 at 10:04 AM ^
Not sure about your take. Michigan’s in the CFP because of their development. As others have noted - what is the prospect’s primary interest - dollars or development?
December 17th, 2023 at 2:20 AM ^
Yeah but not long ago this board went up in flames over Harbaugh's "transformational vs transactional" comments.
December 16th, 2023 at 8:23 AM ^
They got that crystal ball wrong, not sure why you can change your prediction, when you got it wrong
December 16th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^
It's more like a magic 8 ball.
December 16th, 2023 at 9:52 AM ^
I can see Ryan Day to NFL. His record is sparkling and his offense are terrific. Even against Michigan they produce.
The Chargers could see him as a splash hire who wouldn’t be as expensive or hard to get along with as Harbaugh.
December 16th, 2023 at 11:31 AM ^
Day's not getting a shot at NFL (and certainly wouldn't be a splash hire) when he hasn't accomplished anything in college and constantly chokes under pressure. Not happening.
He fits right in at OSU and they should offer him a lifelong contract extension.
December 16th, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
He’s 57-7 as a HC and would qualify as splash hire. He is a known offensive guru with NFL experience.
December 16th, 2023 at 12:45 PM ^
Ryan Day was a missed FG from winning the NC in '22.
If you want to say he "choked" in that game, you could argue that after shredding Uga's vaunted D for most of 4 quarters, when he got the ball into Georgia territory with under a minute to go (and no MHJr available) he settled for too long a FG attempt rather than be a little more aggressive trying to get a few more yards.
I'm sure even a level-headed bucknut would agree with that- if you can find one!
But to accuse him of "choking" after the performance Michigan put on vs tcu is kinda ripe!
December 16th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
Kevin Wilson was still the OC in 22. He designed the offense, called the plays, made the adjustments.
Ryan Day the OC punts from the opponents 30 on 4th and 2.
December 16th, 2023 at 5:14 PM ^
He’s accomplished plenty, and that’s easy to see even with keeping your maize and blue tinted sunglasses on.
Besides, there have been guys who’ve gotten NFL jobs with less credentials to their name. Greg Schiano immediately comes to mind.
December 16th, 2023 at 10:02 AM ^
I think we’re seeing just how impactful and attractive the culture in Columbus really is.
December 16th, 2023 at 10:22 AM ^
Miami remains a great example of how money can't buy you a winner. It's been years of them just handing bags of cash to recruits both above and below board and they've got 1 ten-win season over 20 years to show for it. Just an amazing waste of dubious booster money.
December 16th, 2023 at 11:13 AM ^
I’m just waiting for the shit storm at 11 Warriors when Jeremiah Smith flips his commitment 🤣😂
December 16th, 2023 at 12:24 PM ^
I swear I must have dreamed that because I was sure he flipped to FSU already. When I was looking at their 24 class he was still listed and I’m like well I guess I was dreaming that one.
December 16th, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^
Well, it was a good dream...
December 16th, 2023 at 1:50 PM ^
I’m not u understanding the allure to go play at Miami. They haven’t done anything in a long time. The fact the best team in the ACC got left out of thenplayoff what would make these kids want to play in that conference? I get NIL but if it’s about money you would choose to play in the B1G or the SEC the starters and players that go to the Michigan’s, Ohio St’s, Alabama, LSU, Penn St’s and USC, are going to be making money.
December 16th, 2023 at 1:54 PM ^
Santo Trafficante?
December 16th, 2023 at 3:05 PM ^
Why do I hate to see it happen ?
December 16th, 2023 at 5:17 PM ^
Whatever hurts OSU, I’m all for. But as for this kid, have fun playing in front of 7,000 people and topping out at 9-3 in a mediocre ACC.
Someone else here said it, but Miami is a perfect example of how all the money in the world, all the beautiful weather, all the attractive co-eds, all the allure of “that Miami life” and yacht parties with gorgeous women and flowing booze, all of that can’t buy you a winner.
Miami has been throwing boatloads of cash at recruits for years, and since their last title at the turn of the century, they have absolutely nothing to show for it. They’ve just been living off of “The U” legacy ever since.
December 16th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^
Who are these miami boosters lol they love to crap their money to the heavens that's for sure.
December 16th, 2023 at 6:43 PM ^
OSU's OL and DL classes for the last two cycles seems pretty weak. If they don't get some of their guys to run it back they could be in real trouble.
December 17th, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^
Miami making Ohio their bitch.