MBB saves us from worst sports weekend ever POSBANG

Submitted by JamesBondHerpesMeds on November 29th, 2020 at 8:24 PM

Wasn't pretty, but a win's a win, and Dickinson is good.

RXwolverine

November 29th, 2020 at 8:27 PM ^

Wins a win but they got some work to do. Too many turnovers and gotta better defend the 3. Gotta adjust the starting lineup too. Should be hunter livers Wagner chaundee and smith/brooks 

uncle leo

November 29th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^

Pretty simple here.

In football, the better team ultimately should pull away from a weaker team. Upsets DO happen, but not NEARLY at the rate of basketball. Over the course of 60 minutes, big dogs typically wear out the little guy.

In basketball, especially college, this shit happens almost every day- weaker teams push and often upset big dogs. Every year, we all freak out on this board about barely beating some weak ass squad and then forget about it two weeks later when we are getting a huge win. 16 beats a 1, 15 can beat a 2, so on. If college football had a 16-playoff, upsets would be minimal at best.

Terrible comparison.

uncle leo

November 29th, 2020 at 8:51 PM ^

Every game is different. A team can lose by 59 one week and then jump up and lose to someone by 2 points the next.

It really doesn't matter how bad the team is. These are D-1 kids and they are all streaky as hell. Michigan was turning the ball over at a massive clip because their zone was causing havoc and they were making big plays.

Sorry, it's really not all that shocking this game was close- this shit happens all the time.

crg

November 29th, 2020 at 9:02 PM ^

You have this backwards, Leo:

Football is a game where scoring happens infrequently and is much more heavily affected by fluke events (pick-sixes and other such momentum change occurrences).  One or two bad luck plays can change the outcome of the game easily. (The Plinko-effect as Brian calls it in hockey.)

Basketball is the long game of attrition and persistence.  It is common, if not expected, to score on most possessions and the winner is ultimately the team that can better handle the marathon of possessions.  Single bad luck events, such as a turnover or foul, do not individually make much of a difference in the long run... the better team almost always wins because just a few mistakes cannot cause that much damage. (Akin to playing the War card game... winning one hand doesn't matter since there will be hundreds more.)

You have been around long enough to know this.

uncle leo

November 29th, 2020 at 9:16 PM ^

This makes absolutely no sense. If this was the case, there would be plenty of upsets in football, and no upsets in basketball.

Basketball is the absolute, flukiest sport of runs, momentum, streak shooting, etc. That is why a 16 has beaten a 1, 15 beats 2s, etc. 

When it comes down to it, in a football game, things GENERALLY even out. One team may have a turnover or two more than the other, but if the team is superior, they will work through it and take care of business. Alabama could turn it over 3 times to Michigan's 1 for example, but they'd beat us by 28+. 

On the other hand, a shitty team in college basketball can shoot 50 percent from three on a fluke streak of luck and a normally proficient team can shoot 20 percent and lose.

You've been around long enough to know this.

wildbackdunesman

November 29th, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^

To further your point, basketball teams ranked around 250 make the NCAA tourney, because their conference is awful but all conferences have an autobid to March Madness.

You will never see a team ranked in the 200s beat a top 10 football team at the end of the year when we know who is good.

P.S. Sagarin had our opponent in the horror ranked ahead of a handful of bigten teams and in the 60s.

uncle leo

November 29th, 2020 at 9:46 PM ^

Absolutely. If his point was true, football would be filled with frequent upsets and basketball would rarely have upsets, which is factually wrong.

The better teams win in football for a reason- it's a long, grinding, 60 minute game when the downright physical and superior team is TYPICALLY going to win (not always).

The better teams get upset in college basketball at a relatively high clip because the sport is 40 minutes of high-paced action. Inferior teams can get lucky and hit a high percentage of their shots while a superior team goes cold.

It's a pretty simple explanation here. And the facts in reality bear it out- I'm not really sure this was an arguable thing?